Topic: Flame on! I'm agnostic.
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Sun 12/09/07 07:40 PM
Yes, Kalamazoo guy, how right you are.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:40 PM




I've read the bible lol. I understand not all religions don't praise god. I actually believe a lot in buddhism.


Really? The whole thing?


a word to the wise, the Bible was written and edited by man. It should be mentioned that these people are human and by default.....not perfect.


You as well have not read the bible, MAN did NOT write the bible.


Sure they did, and King James had it edited:)

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Sun 12/09/07 07:40 PM
I guess all we can do is pray for those without faith.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:41 PM



Sure they did, and King James had it edited:)


So when the rewrite the science books some editior, re-wrote SCIENCE then right? Dont come to me with childish counter points.

If you actually did read the bible man takes no credit for writing the bible and actually the bible was written through the holy ghost.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:42 PM

Where you there when god created earth? Or when jesus was crucified? No no no! You were not. Your "god is real" stories are no more factual than me saying man had landed on the moon because neither one of us were there to see it, first hand.


So, your premise is that nothing exists unless it is witnessed first hand by the observer. I haven't seen Europe, but, I'm fairly certain it's there... I don't see air, but, dang, I'm pretty sure IT's there too...

And, God, in Job, tells Job much of what you're saying... "Where you THERE when..." etc... so, in a way, you're kinda makin' the point for us...

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Sun 12/09/07 07:42 PM

eternalsun, I feel very sorry for you. You are so lost.

No, I am not lost. God is just not a part of my life as it should be. He is not real. Why would I waste my time praying to a god that does not exist? Why "believe" in something that can not be seen, prooved, touched, smelled, felt, etc. Thats like me writing a book saying the big meatball man is the new one true god and you must believe in him or you will not go to meatball land. Thats about as much factual base as ANY religion on this planet has. It all comes down to ****ing faith. I dont have faith in soemthing that is not factual. End of story. END OF STORY!!!!!

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Sun 12/09/07 07:43 PM

I guess all we can do is pray for those without faith.


I used to talk on an atheist fourm. In my life i have never met people who were so critical and negative in my life. I was never glad to have been given such an experience. I was cussed at, called everyname in the book but i still learned. THe people in these fourms, are much nicer =)

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Sun 12/09/07 07:44 PM
Edited by KalamazooGuy87 on Sun 12/09/07 07:44 PM


eternalsun, I feel very sorry for you. You are so lost.

No, I am not lost. God is just not a part of my life as it should be. He is not real. Why would I waste my time praying to a god that does not exist? Why "believe" in something that can not be seen, prooved, touched, smelled, felt, etc. Thats like me writing a book saying the big meatball man is the new one true god and you must believe in him or you will not go to meatball land. Thats about as much factual base as ANY religion on this planet has. It all comes down to ****ing faith. I dont have faith in soemthing that is not factual. End of story. END OF STORY!!!!!


Love isnt real as well.

ah you changed your picture, you still doing the "i dont see therefore i dont believe argument"?

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Sun 12/09/07 07:44 PM
Edited by onegoofydame on Sun 12/09/07 07:46 PM
Ok, then. That's your thing. I just wonder what your eternity will be like when your body is dead and gone....but that is not for me to worry about. Responding to eternalsun.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:45 PM
Now wait...Jesus died on the cross for our sins. God forgives no matter how much wrong we do as long as we confess/pray for our sins. So, does it bring me closer to god by sinning more? The more I sin, the more he's going to forgive! (I'm really just joking here)

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Sun 12/09/07 07:45 PM




Sure they did, and King James had it edited:)


So when the rewrite the science books some editior, re-wrote SCIENCE then right? Dont come to me with childish counter points.

If you actually did read the bible man takes no credit for writing the bible and actually the bible was written through the holy ghost.


So the holy ghost penned it? What is the King James version that is commonly distribute in the United States then?

Not to be a jerk, I would like more information on how you came to this conclusion.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:46 PM

Now wait...Jesus died on the cross for our sins. God forgives no matter how much wrong we do as long as we confess/pray for our sins. So, does it bring me closer to god by sinning more? The more I sin, the more he's going to forgive! (I'm really just joking here)


I believe that's why Paul Wrote to the Corinthian Church - "If we sin more, Christ can love us more!" I know you're joking...


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Sun 12/09/07 07:46 PM

Now wait...Jesus died on the cross for our sins. God forgives no matter how much wrong we do as long as we confess/pray for our sins. So, does it bring me closer to god by sinning more? The more I sin, the more he's going to forgive! (I'm really just joking here)


This is a typical argument, you cannot base gods forgiveness based on our Judical system. God however knows your intentions. You can lie to your friends about really asking for forgivness but you cannot lie to God, again you need to check your intentions. some joke...

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Sun 12/09/07 07:47 PM
Let me end this the easy way......Ill guess well see whose right come judgement day.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:47 PM
The Bible was inspired by God through the holy ghost.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:47 PM

Ok, then. That's your thing. I just wonder what your eternity will be like when your body is dead and gone....but that is not for me to worry about. Responding to eternalsun.


Like the saying goes... "If you don't beleive in God, you better be Right!" laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 12/09/07 07:47 PM


Where you there when god created earth? Or when jesus was crucified? No no no! You were not. Your "god is real" stories are no more factual than me saying man had landed on the moon because neither one of us were there to see it, first hand.


So, your premise is that nothing exists unless it is witnessed first hand by the observer. I haven't seen Europe, but, I'm fairly certain it's there... I don't see air, but, dang, I'm pretty sure IT's there too...

And, God, in Job, tells Job much of what you're saying... "Where you THERE when..." etc... so, in a way, you're kinda makin' the point for us...

No. I was pointing out that kalamazoo asked if bryan had been to the moon when the lunar ship landed to which I rebutled had he been there to see jesus crucified or god make earth. I cannot proove evolution created man just like you cannot proove god created man but there are facts that make evolution more believeable than an "easy way out" in thinking god created us. Man has been asking this question forever but we will never have proof of anything untill we can travel through time and find out first hand.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:48 PM
I like the term higher power a lot. It allows me to learn knowing instead of believing that there are people out there that are wiser than me.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:49 PM
Let me end this the easy way......Ill guess well see whose right come judgement day.

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Sun 12/09/07 07:50 PM

Ok, then. That's your thing. I just wonder what your eternity will be like when your body is dead and gone....but that is not for me to worry about. Responding to eternalsun.
my screen name is just that a screen name. It has nothing to do with anything. When I die you know all that is going to happen? I'm gonna rot in a wooden grave eventually feeding worms and flies untill I become a permanent part of this earth.