We can do some pretty amazing things in space.
We landed on the Moon, sent probes to the Moon.
We sent landers to Venus and Mars and even sent a craft to a comet (Rosetta).
The New Horizons craft sent us pictures from Plutonian orbit.
4.67 BILLION miles from Earth.

Tell me why, with such precision available can we not stage supply drops on the Moon or Mars?

If we are to ever leave this blue marble we are going to need support at our destination.
It only makes sense that we should be sending supplies to predetemined destinations in preparation for our actual arrival.
People tell me they think we should go to Mars. I agree.
What makes sense is for us to already be sending support missions there to stockpile the stuff we need to survive.
Not just one or two missions, we should be flat out littering Mars with supplies.

You mean you want to start entire civilization base on knowledge of earth.
Survival on mars would be difficult not impossible.
Very difficult , because if marsian want to return to home plant for holiday where is quarantine to check if they bring something unknown???
What kind of citizenship they hold!!
Are we be rivals or friends.. all friendship turn sour one day
are we expecting war later stage because every civilization had war with each other for land and resources.

My advice is Do not leave the home.

Any food or resources left at staging points would have to be sealed in lead to exclude intense radiation outside of the earths's magnetosphere protection.

Very expensive containers, and heavy.

I agree.
I was thinking of construction materials and bulk life support like oxygen and nitrogen. Probably some tools and fuel too.

Lets say the Moon.
Its closer to than Mars, more doable as a test.

Lets say we want to construct a station on the Moon to act as a way station to more distant destinations. Like asteroid farming or a Mars trip.
You send up a few 'loads' of different things and see how they fair.
Does soil die? Does it become sterile if it sets on the Moon?
Can it be revived to grow plants in?
Does water lose or gain something?

Send a test load with a return ship.
Let it set on the Moon for a year, bring it back and measure the differences.
This will tell scientists which types of shielding needs to be used.
It tells scientists which types of things are good candidates for staging.
The type of things we will need to know BEFORE we attempt to construct a base or station away from Earth's protective magnetosphere.

The ISS is in low Earth orbit. It is still protected by the Earth.
The only science we can gleen from experiments there will be science concerning low Earth orbit.

Terrible advice!

Always seek the next horizon, the next frontier!

Our Sun has a limited lifespan.

Expanding to the Moon, then Mars, then the asteroid belt, gas giants and Oort Cloud are the first steps in expanding to planets around other stars.

Which is the ONLY way our species can attain immortality.

Remaining solely on Earth is an ultimate death-trap!

I'm not much for the whole Mars idea and radiation is a great deal of the detouring factor.
Dig in and bury the stores. Create glass from the tilling and pipe light through fiber optics filtering it to grow vegetation.....

It's looking as though there is some merit to the thought we still exist on this planet because we went underground at some points in time.

SPACE is an ARTIST CONCEPT and NASA is a FRAUD. Zetetic Flat Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTU7GpMODeM

Werner Von Braun father of NASA. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZvvpOYpdDc

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Personally I think it's a waste of time hop scotching our way from planet to planet that we would have to find different ways to live on..Time to build a star ship ..and head full out into Space..the final frontier..( is anyone else hearing the theme song to star trek right now..or is it just me..lol)
The question is whether we possess the technology and they haven't told us..or we just don't possess it and will be confined to taking these baby steps and pooping probes..They should just blast a million encapsulated go pros into space in all different directions and see what comes back .(.yea I know..but you get the idea)..time to quit wasting time and go for it..time to blow this popsicle stand..

Meanwhile, back in reality . . .

What would be the point of people living on Mars?

From what I've gathered some folks think they can terraform a planet that doesn't have enough geomagnetism to support an atmosphere or keep radiation out. Serious pipe dream if you ask me.

Edit: Oh, yeah, your question, not enough resources on planet earth for the masses, too much pollution and a few more reasons down the road a ways.

From my perspective, off-planet is a possible solution to the population growth of our species.
I'd rather see a few billion people go off-world than see a few billion people slaughtered.
I also know I won't live long enough to see anything significant happen either way.

I also understand if humans ever want to go anywhere off-world for any significant time, they will need supplies to do so.
All I'm saying is if we have the precision to send a probe to the Oort Cloud where Pluto is, we have the precision to drop supplies at specific points for any destination.

The New Horizons craft sent us pictures from Plutonian orbit.
4.67 BILLION miles from Earth.

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yet my cable goes out at least 3 times a week.

Tom i have question for you.

Country or people who are enemy on earth what makes you think they will friend in space? or on mars??

If you like mars so much you can try and live in Austrlaia it same as mars.

If Australians are going to benefit from Mars Tech then
Trump may ask you to pay for the Wall.

Considering that your querry might have some validity, I'll answer.
First, I am not 'stuck on Mars anything.
However, when faced with death I think most people would find a way to co-habitate no matter where.

This planet is fast becoming unable to maintain the curent population.
Spac expansion is the ONLY solution but it is still so far out of reach.
Any exodus would seem to be the "Humane" solution.
Either that or "Kill" great numbers of the population.

Given that space exodus is the only REAL possible solution to over-population.
Don't you think it would be wise to at least look into making it a possiblilty?
Or what, wait till it is so out of hand that nothing could be done to save humanity?
Why not prepare for an exodus now, while we still can and be wrong, than do nothing and be faced with extinction?
So we transport a few hundreds of thousands of materials to other places.
But, if we EVER wish to relocate, wouldn't it prove prudent?

Continuing on: Desert on Mars' appears similar to that in Australia -- different temperature ranges (not to mention radiation).

[quote} On Mars from Wiki: The caps at both poles consist primarily of water ice. Frozen carbon dioxide accumulates as a comparatively thin layer about one metre thick on the north cap in the northern winter, while the south cap has a permanent dry ice cover about 8 m thick

Australia: Great deserts, no rivers; (15 and 35 degree South Lat)
6000 kms to Antarctica glaciers.

The question appears to be: If it is not feasible to crack glaciers and float ice across the 6000 kms then what life sustainable systems are we talking about on Mars?

This question would have been rhetorical but for the proposal that we should begin thinking about large populations moving over to Mars. i.e., if we are considering population sizes in millions. (Assuming 22nd Century World is more collaborative.)

I was wondering what happened on the proposal on having a mag shield around Mars.

Dude, Mars has been soaked in cosmic radiation for what has been estimated to be 4 billion years. We're talking seriously long term half life of some of the forms of radiations, just one form has 1.6 million year half life.

A mag shield I didn't really even bother reading up on as the resources and energy to create a magnetic field the size of a planet couldn't be feasible IMHO.

On radiation soaked into Mars soil, I've no clue

On the Mag Shield, I think its worth reading, an old proposal that was once again presented in Washington, in a forum of world scientists in 2017 by NASA director Jim Green. Green himself termed it then as 'near fanciful'

Instead of the whole planet, he proposed what looked like a 'safe corridor', around the planets using a string of satellites synchronized to Mars rotation. Couldn't locate the picture now but if the field could be colored it would look like a wide, distant rainbow while the terra firma below remaining untouched.

But look at the results if this mag tech was financially affordable.


The carbon dioxide ice is a thin layer, 6 to 8 inches which melts during the day and creates the famous dust storms. In other words, fresh water ice below the CO2 cap.

On energy requirements, Green did not say except:


I think if the tech can be proven the money will come.

Well My view is every celstial body has 5 element intaked
they seems to appear diffrently

Mars has water before and now. Just that plant do not want humans any more.