WINTER BREAK

MORNING ROUTINE

oh crap you caught me. i actually just got back from a fun night out.


haha when you said routine i thought you meant pickup routine

OH. FU CK IN PLLLZZZZ

hey hey ill get into my morning routine eventually

dont make me whip out the eggbeater

WELL AT LEAST YOU KNOW A JOKE WHEN YOU READ IT

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME

oopps

lol

I have no idea who Pat Robertson is.

He's that guy that ruins your moment of comedic elatedness after you watch Who's Line is it Anyway with the 700 Club airing directly after.

Anyway, I think you should educate yourself toward tolerance, dude... There shall be no ignorant acts of religion-bashing here.

I thought this belonged here:

"A limiting belief is something that you believe about yourself, other people, or the world--and although it isn't actually true, the fact that you think it is holds you back from experience and success.

LIMITING BELIEF: All I have to do is "be myself," and eventually I'll meet the right woman who likes me for me.

REALITY: This works only if you know exactly who you are, what your strengths are, and how to convey them successfully. Most often, this statement is used as an excuse not to improve. What most of us present to the world isn't necessarily our true self. It's a combination of years of bad habits and fear-based behavior. Our real self lies buried beneath all the insecurities and inhibitions. So rather than being yourself, focus on discovering and permanently bringing to the surface your best self."

DUDE!!! I BOUGHT STYLE'S NEW RELEASE, RULES OF THE GAME, TOO!
haha nice
my nocturnal habits are preventing me from doing the missions tho

I'm surprised you even need to do the missions. When I read that section though I immediately thought of this thread and all the guys who keep saying "I'm just going to be myself and I'll find the right woman." Style just obliterated that argument.

I wouldn't say he obliterated the argument, that excerpt even says it works if you truly know yourself. So the advice is to get to know yourself and then be yourself.

Putting women on pedastals and supplicating yourself to them isn't being yourself, it's trying to be what you think they want you to be. Being yourself would be like treating them like any of your other friends, which I think it valid.

Well said. You're right, he did say it works if you truely know yourself. Obliterated was not the best word. I believe, however, that the men in this thread that have used the statement "I'm going to be myself" aren't truely themselves. They are the nice guys that put women up on pedastals. Very few people in this world know their true selves (myself included), they just think they do. Some of us are putting forth the effort to find what's buried inside. Others are content living their lives as they are now.

Limiting Belief: Seduction by method is a path towards self awareness.

See this diagram of a Johari's Window.
http://www.businessballs.com/johariwindowmodeldiagramportrait.pdf

No one knows exactly who/what they are. Including PUA's.

However.. if you are not altering your behavior to accomidate a seduction.. The feedback you can get from a social experience, whether it is good, bad, or indifferent can give a person much insight in who and what they are.

Personally.. I do not know who I am.. However.. I am comfortable with that..and comfortable with me. Always open to learn as much as I can about me. Being me.. is not an excuse to not improve.. it is a path to self-improvement.

(I haven't ever seen those shows. I am not American, you know! Anyway it doesnt matter. No, I haven't read the Qu'ran but what I said is something I've heard from different people at different times and I thought it was true. Didn't mean to offend anyone. If it isn't true, then its for the best that it isnt. I always despised the idea that a religion could be promoting such views. Anyway lets not hijack this thread with this off-topic thing, I merely wanted to show that Christians dont have to be religionmongers. At least not in my part of the world.)

I'm happy to know you wrote this.

Let me leave you with a quote that I often hear in the circles I run in. Oddly.. it is something I have been accused of by a few of the young men in this thread too. Who can't possibly know the extent of my experience or investigation.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

There's a difference between self-improvement and seduction. I don't recall saying that the actual seduction phase improves ones self image. Building self confidence first leads to being able to attract the type of women you desire later.



There are a select few that do know who they are. I agree though that the majority of us, PUA's included, don't.




Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're saying you are on a path to self-improvement by not improving. Yes? No?


Honestly, I'm getting tired of the arguing. Why can't we agree to disagree? We are entitled to our views, just as you are entitled to yours.

My view towards being a PUA is that it isn't solely directed towards picking up women as most people tend to assume. It's about building a lifestyle. Being a stong, confident person. Not everyone agrees with this method. And that's fine. We are just showing men something that is out there. Nobody is forcing it on you. Yet, you constantly criticize us. Does it make you feel like a bigger person for trying to tear apart someone's beliefs? I've tried the nice guy approach. It hasn't gotten me where I wanted to be, so I'm trying something new.

If you want to call PUA's players, at least consider this. Players are just out to get with as many women as possible. PUA's are men with options. They say "no" far more often than they say "yes". AFC's usually get obsessive over one girl because they have trouble attracting women. A lot of people, both men and women, stay in unhealthy relationships because of that fear of being alone. If you have options, you don't have to be afraid of ending a relationship that is not beneficial to either party involved.

You might think you are in an argument.. I'm not.
I'm in an ongoing discussion.. with or without your contributions.

According to any recognised premise in Psychology.. It is impossible to know ones self completely. The model I linked to..illustrates that very human dynamic pretty well, despite it being pretty simplistic.

Any study that subscribes to the possibility of one being absolutely self aware is a flawed study. That would require a sixth sense.

The more open a person is... with their true self to others.. the more they reveal to themselves of themselves.
A better illustration of this is here:
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/communication/johari_window

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So.. no. In being myself as openly and honestly as I can possibly be without putting my (or others)welfare in unnecessary jeopardy... is a path to self awareness and self improvement. That precludes my using methods, techniques and strategies that are outside of my range of behavior in any social setting. The feedback, whether it is in language, body or some other means of communication I get as a result of my behavior...can be a predictor to my changing that behavior. Provided I am paying attention... This happens without having a program, book, dvd... coach or master. It is simply.. reading the room, then acting accordingly.

No. you did not say that the seduction phase improves ones self image... Unless I am severally misunderstanding though ~ You have repeatedly indicated that self improvement is found in self confidence, which is found by becoming comfortable with the seduction...which means.. performing in ways you are not accustomed to ~ that increase the odds of positive feedback in social settings.
Or something to that effect.

I'm saying: For most... That is simply putting the cart before the horse...
Self awareness builds honest confidence. The only way to achieve that is to be yourself in social settings. Without others viewpoint of your honest self.. Your blind spot and undiscovered self will always remain a dominant force in life.