Just out of interest... have you been raised at school with biology based on Darwin or was he considered a heretic?

This thing came up due to a book I'm reading, and I remembered that when I was a teach I was told to never ever address Darwin and Darwinian theory as I'd get sacked on the spot.
I was like "Wot?!?"
As far as I can remember I've been taught that myself at school, so I didn't get it. Now I understand there's a clash between religion (I take it mostly Christianity) and Darwin.
And I'm wondering if Darwin is considered taboo at schools in other countries as well.
I'm officially Catholic, raised in a Catholic area, and if I remember correctly I have been taught Darwin, so I wonder if it's just other religions who are against this?

I will just say this,
If any school teaches "evolution " , then they definitely should teach creationism and let the child think and decide for him/ her self.

Yes, but it is ********.The Bible is right...

In history class we were taught Darwin’s “ survival of the fittest “ theory.
In that same context we also were taught about the theory of Maltus.
I went to a very secular school where science and religion were strictly kept apart. I like that.
Here in Belgium religion doesn’t influence the classes students get in school. I think that’s very important. Like Montesqui put it “ the trias politica “ . The three powers need to be secularised from each other to have an honest system. Religion cannot influence any of the three powers either.
I think parents should be free to choose if their child has to be taught any religion at all. A respectful person is a respectful person regardless of if it’s a theist or an atheist.

It is not bullsh*t. The Bible can’t be used as an authority for every question we have. Otherwise we would end up in a system where law and religion influence each other. Like in the middle ages. We would go back to witch hunting.
The Middle-East with the Sharia is a perfect example of this.

Some can argue the "evolution " actually is a faith based religion.

Keep in mind it is a THEORY, not fact.
Thus, one places his/her faith in that theory.

When I went to school evolution was not an issue.
There was a separation between science and religion.
Creationism was taught in Sunday school and it wasn't a conflict.

I was taught that both could exist at the same time.
That the natural state of things could have more than one truth and that neither truth had more weight than the other.
Each was absolute for its own reasons.

The big bang theory and the fact that everything was pangaea ( South-America and South-Africa being one ) can actually be proven. The continents fit into each other like a perfect puzzle. The tectonic plates give us valuable info as well. The big bang theory can easily be proven. Stephan Hawking did quite a bit of research on it as well as other famous scientifics.
The creation theory cannot be proven. No one can prove that the world was created in 7 days.
Or that Eva was a piece of rib from Adam. Especially if you look at the gynaecological reality : the first 6 weeks in the womb every embryo is a girl. After that some develop into boys and some stay girls.
The various sorts of monkeys and pre-humans learn us that the creation theory is not likely ( not to say impossible ) either. The homo habilis, australopheticus afarensis, homo erectus, homo neanderthalensis, homo sapiens sapiens.
New pre-human ape sorts are discovered year after year. Especially in the regions around Ethiopia,...

They are mutually exclusive.
For these exact reasons that I stated to another poster :

The big bang theory and the fact that everything was pangaea ( South-America and South-Africa being one ) can actually be proven. The continents fit into each other like a perfect puzzle. The tectonic plates give us valuable info as well. The big bang theory can easily be proven. Stephan Hawking did quite a bit of research on it as well as other famous scientifics.
The creation theory cannot be proven. No one can prove that the world was created in 7 days.
Or that Eva was a piece of rib from Adam. Especially if you look at the gynaecological reality : the first 6 weeks in the womb every embryo is a girl. After that some develop into boys and some stay girls.
The various sorts of monkeys and pre-humans learn us that the creation theory is not likely ( not to say impossible ) either. The homo habilis, australopheticus afarensis, homo erectus, homo neanderthalensis, homo sapiens sapiens.
New pre-human ape sorts are discovered year after year. Especially in the regions around Ethiopia,...


Both are teached to keep the religious masses quiet, while recognising scientific reality.

Personally I feel it goes the other way round as well, that if they teach the creationism they should definitely also address evolution.
Which I think is quite a great idea, especially if it's taught by people who can come up with links between the two.

The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory.
It absolutely has not been proven a fact whatsoever.

It actually is a piss poor theory just like the theory of evolution.

No facts , just theories.

So if I may ask, was that in a Catholic setting? I'm just curious to learn if there's a difference in this between Catholics and Christians.

I like that :) And makes sense, I'm Dutch, so our backgrounds and way of thinking is likely very similar.
Although we do have a so called 'bible belt' in Holland, and I'm not sure you got that in Belgium, which I believe is mostly Catholic, whereas here most are Christian (basically everything above the Maas & Waal)

I've been taught about Pangea too, and the Big Bang theory, that's why I was so flabbergasted to be told this info -which as far as I know is indeed proven- could get me sacked.

But in a way maybe there's truth to the creation story as well. If memory serves, we are not descendants from the earlier species of humans that walked the Earth, but another species/variety.
So in that sense we could be descendants from outer space/something else whereas the humans that went extinct were Darwin's descendants.

You mention a number of types, I cannot remember which one was the type that went extinct, just disappeared.

Not Catholic but I did have friends that were Catholic and attended the local Catholic schools.
Sure there is a difference between Catholic and Christian. However, Catholic is Christian basically. There is also Protestant, Baptist and a few other distinctions within Christianity.

When I was attending school, nearly everyone had some type of religious affiliation. Atheism and Agnosticism was virtually unheard of. All my teachers attended their churches on Sunday. Inter-dynamic social structures were religion based and religion played a very high part in social morals and attitudes.

Fortunately, In my rural school, there were not many 'gangs' but kids did socialize in groups. While we may have 'hadded' (hate is too strong of a word) some teachers, everyone respected their authority.

Our parents and guardians, for the most part, were active in raising us.
Since most of us lived on farms, we knew what hard work was about and understood why we had to do it.

We also knew about cross pollination and animal breeding so evolution was an easy concept to accept. To most of us, Creationism explained why and Evolution explained how. It was easy to accept both as truth.

Neither have been proven. The BB nor evolution theories.

Thats just it, Darwin is a religion, Christianity is a way of life

Well said.

I don't think that is the intent of the OP?
She asked a specific question not requiring proof of either concept.
Technically, there also is no proof that Creationism exists nor is there proof that BBT and evolution does not.
Written words are not proof.

Back on topic,
CrystalFairy you can learn a lot by considering the age of the people responding. The trend of these responses tells a lot about how social standards change as time progresses.
It mirrors baseline social attitudes.
These changes in social attitudes within society over time, is evident in other areas as well.
From the type of NEWS presentations we see to how advertising is accomplished.
It reflects changes in the family dynamic and social connection at work, in love and even in how we make war.
It changes how we, as a species, define civilization.

Regardless of what the intent may have been I was responding to one of the OPs post where it was stated that the BB and evolution were proven , which they absolutely have not been proven.

All are theories and all take faith to believe.
I absolutely believe there are ample amounts of evidence that puts creationism in the lead .

Written words may not mean anything to you, but common sense is definitely on creationism side.

More and more scientists are believing in creationism.