if more white kids were involved in shooting people yes they deserve to be shot.

Im curious and this is just hypothetical Comrade.

If the parkland shooter whose name I wont mention because he is scum, if the parkland shooter shot those those poor kids and teacher got into a car and took off , then was stopped by police and then ran from his car and the officer shot him in the back , even though the killers guns was in the car( this to be determine later), should the cop be charged with criminal homicide for shooting the killer while he was running away?

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How about this Sturmbannführer?

if the parkland shooter shot those those poor kids and teacher got into a car and took off , and saw you and offered you a ride, and you accepted, having no clue as what had transpired only minutes before then was stopped by police and then you got scared ran from his car and the officer shot you in the back , even though the killers guns was in the car( this to be determine later), should the cop be charged with criminal homicide for shooting you while you were running away?

First of all, the Supreme Court ruled about 20 years ago, that cops can no longer shoot "fleeing felons". I find it difficult to understand how the guy (or you) could present a threat by showing your back and running away.

Here in the United States, we have this funky little concept called presumption of innocence. Here the police are not allowed to just execute people because they're having a bad day.

Results may vary on your home world.

So that's what white cops are doing?. killing every black kid that steals candy

you take things to the extreme. just another angry person who refuses to look inside their own backyard.

Always someone else's fault.. the " poor me" syndrome.. really wears thin after 60-70 years or so.

Comrade Sergei yuschevich viperovski

in the case Tennessee vs Garner, which I assume you are referring to
here is the part you forgot to mention " unless the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."

Let me refresh your memory Sergei, the suspect the 17 year old thug was involved in a shooting earlier, are you concerned about the people that was shot?

let me explain the concept of shooting, you have a gun ( which was most likely illegally purchased) as 17 year old in the city dont need a gun, he and his friends/bangers/associates/crew member etc shot someone and fled

The police were called and they stopped them , two fled one stayed behind, the officers didn't know if they had the gun on them or not , because thugs from previous experience of dead law enforcement from body cam or witness shows some people are capable of killing law enforcement to avoid being arrested.

How is the officer to know if these teen thugs would just give up just like that?

reality Comrade Sergei yuschevich viperovski

Apparently you must be a member of the psychic hotline. Because you can see things no one else can.

I'm still waiting to see your video of the kid with a gun in his hand shooting someone. You do know what you're engaged in when you ASSUME don't you? Do you know when the kid got in the car? Maybe he saw his friends, waved at them, and they offered him a ride.

Consult your crystal ball and see if that scenario might at least be possible. We'll stand by for the video.

The clip in his pocket says a lot. It's time to stop pretending the thug is innocent of the crime that had just been committed.

Prove it wasn't planted.

The main reason that the cop was charged to begin with, was his lying to investigators, and the fact that he'd been fired from the University Police Department "for cause".

Kinda makes you wonder how many notches are on his gun belt huh?

Until you provide the video, this kid is just as much a thug as yours.

Comrade Sergei yuschevich viperovski

how do you know that these kids were innocent, did they tell you themselves?

Yes innocent kids run from the law all the time, I guess you must run from the cops all the time Comrade and yet here you are? interesting.

What you cant seem to grasp is they were involved and described being involved in a prior shooting ( you know a crime), which is why they were pursued.

I don't HAVE to know they're innocent. I thought I already explained that.

In the United States, there is a presumption of innocence. The kids don't have to prove they didn't do it, the state has to prove they did. Until that proof is submitted, the kids are INNOCENT.

A dirty cop shot and killed an INNOCENT kid in the back while running away. Wyatt Earp is rolling in his grave.

Results may vary on your home world.

I thought they already linked the guns to the shooting. I don't see them planting evidence while people are taking videos of them. The focus of the community should be changing their kids ambitions. They should use this thug as an example of how they don't want to turn out.
Selling drugs is very profitable. Working for minimum wage as a teenager doesn't make sense to them. They can sleep all day and make several hundred within a couple hours. Problem is they end up dead or in prison.

sounds like more bigotry and stereotyping ....


the one time people have the MOST potential to turn around is during their youth



a kid is a kid, and does not deserve to be shot in the back when running in fear.

actually, the victim has already said the kid was NOT the one who shot him ...

except this kid WAS in school, and WAS working and trying to get out

but the constant stereotyping and assuming is very telling ....

It's not like he was caught skipping school to go to the mall. My son signed up for the military at 17. He was being taught to kill people but in a way that defends his country. That thug had already turned into who he was going to be.

I watched a movie a while back where a man was trying to help these kids. It was based on a true story. At the end it listed how the kids ended up. Almost all of them ended up dead or in prison.

It's not about opportunity. It's basically most are lazy and want to make easy money. Shooting up the place makes them feel cool like on the videos. It's their personality. Which doesn't change.

and until cops or you carry crystal balls to see any ONE kid's future, its not for anyone to determine their life should be expendable.

It's summer. Who forced him to go shoot someone that day? He wasn't trying to get out of anything. He was embracing his thug life.

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but he was with the shooter, does that make him innocent?

off topic

If im in the car when my buddies rob a bank and kills someone and we all get caught I still get charged with murder and felony robbery.

maybe it does maybe it doesnt, maybe it makes him a future criminal, maybe it makes him a scared kid

now, we will never know.

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yes, you get CHARGED, not shot in the back trying to run.

if we are going to keep justifying shooting a kid in the back based on their level of 'innocence' or potential for future crime, we can just go to the inner cities and gun down families right now. Being a kid that is WITH someone, even someone who has committed a crime, should not be a death sentencw, neither should living where there is high crime, because lets face it

in some areas, there are gonna be kids who are hanging around out of fear or protection or being related with those who are 'criminal', and the mentality of they are therefore not 'innocent' or doomed to be criminals gives people free will to commit genocide on whole populations of underserved, and gives those kids even less chance to ever TRY to turn their life around ,,, because they are stamped expendable before they even get their shot...

I dont promote being a 'thug' but I also dont promote this terrible philosophy that guilt by association should be grounds for execution in the streets.

The cop wasn't going by his future. He was judging him by the crime he had just commited