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Topic: Interesting statement
Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 04/22/18 02:43 PM
When a person is in the military and they have a spouse, do you feel the spouse is serving too?

This statement was made by a woman, who's. Husband was in the military, she said ,"she serves the country too!"

Stu's photo
Sun 04/22/18 02:47 PM
IMO

Only if she's following him from place to place, then "maybe".

SpicyExcel's photo
Sun 04/22/18 02:48 PM
I have a job, does my partner serve my employer also?

soufiehere's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:00 PM

Until 1982, military pensions were NOT dividable in a divorce.
They got nada. No matter how many years married.
That has changed since 1982. They can now get up to 50% even
if married one day.

To answer your premise, before 1982 the government did not
think the spouse had any worthy contribution and their pensions
were awarded ONLY to the military server.

Now, it is deemed unfair.
Government says so.

Personally, I think they do not serve.
They are just using words, not bullets.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:02 PM
I think that they serve, or make contribution to the country, in the sense of being the support for those who are serving.

no photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:02 PM
I wouldn’t say serve, but they certainly sacrifice.

no photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:03 PM
Perhaps they see their personal sacrifice as a service .. the times he is deployed and may not return .. you could always ask what she meant :-)

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:28 PM


Until 1982, military pensions were NOT dividable in a divorce.
They got nada. No matter how many years married.
That has changed since 1982. They can now get up to 50% even
if married one day.

To answer your premise, before 1982 the government did not
think the spouse had any worthy contribution and their pensions
were awarded ONLY to the military server.

Now, it is deemed unfair.
Government says so.

Personally, I think they do not serve.
They are just using words, not bullets.



That's interesting, I didn't know that! Thanks!

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:32 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 04/22/18 03:32 PM

Perhaps they see their personal sacrifice as a service .. the times he is deployed and may not return .. you could always ask what she meant :-)


This was a woman on a TV commercial, unknown to me!

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:37 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 04/22/18 03:38 PM
Then parents of the young men and women in military, would also be serving if they give support and help to them, while they are away!!!

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:41 PM

IMO

Only if she's following him from place to place, then "maybe".


That was my first thought! Sometimes spouses aren't supporting them even, while they are away military. Divorce happens often when he returns too.



RustyKitty's photo
Sun 04/22/18 03:43 PM
maybe they are more like a 'support staff'..

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:40 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Sun 04/22/18 04:42 PM

I have a job, does my partner serve my employer also?

Sorry, but what kind of stupid comment is that?
My son in law was sent to Afghanistan for 9 months. you think that is easy on his wife, my daughter? Apart from being separated so long, also the worry and stress. It's not like they're being sent to Ibiza, you know.

Furthermore, as a wife, you are uprooted too each time your partner is sent to another base. This has tremendous impact on the career you yourself can build, or not. And the same for any children involved.
If hubby is gone a lot, you have to do most everything on your own, like raising kids, taking care of every freaking responsibility that normal couples get to share. Like having a husband beside you each night when some creep breaks into your home for instance. Or someone who takes care of car maintenance.
Army wives have to do all that crap on their own. So yes, in that sense they serve as well. They too make quite the sacrifice for their country -and in my girl's case it wasn't even her country as she wasn't American-, because of their husband's choice of work.

A bit more respect would go a long way.
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Stu's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:41 PM


Until 1982, military pensions were NOT dividable in a divorce.
They got nada. No matter how many years married.
That has changed since 1982. They can now get up to 50% even
if married one day.

To answer your premise, before 1982 the government did not
think the spouse had any worthy contribution and their pensions
were awarded ONLY to the military server.

Now, it is deemed unfair.
Government says so.

Personally, I think they do not serve.
They are just using words, not bullets.


Hummm... Yeah, I can see it that way.

Stu's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:43 PM


IMO

Only if she's following him from place to place, then "maybe".


That was my first thought! Sometimes spouses aren't supporting them even, while they are away military. Divorce happens often when he returns too.





True. Remember original "dear John" letters?

Stu's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:46 PM

maybe they are more like a 'support staff'..



Can see it like that too.. My mom went to Germany during Korea to be with dad. I know they struggled to make ends come close. My older siblings were both born there.

Not sure what it all has to do with it though.. laugh

no photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:46 PM
I don't think his comment was disrespectful crystal .. it was directed at the relationship between employee and employer . In general waving

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:47 PM

Then parents of the young men and women in military, would also be serving if they give support and help to them, while they are away!!!

No, cos it is not quite the same. of course if harm was to come to your child, there are no words to describe that grief.
But the difference between parents and partners is that you choose to live your life with your partner, you want to build a future, you have dreams for the future, if you want to procreate, it's with your partner.
So what you lose as a parent or what you lose as a partner is very different. This goes for the sacrifice they make because person X chooses to go in the army too.
For the partner it means they haven't got their partner around with whom they're sharing their life.
The parent isn't living with their child in most cases, so half the time they aren't even aware the child is abroad / elsewhere. They're not the ones left behind, having to do everything on their own suddenly, having to raise the kids on their own etc etc.
Totally not the same. Apples and pears.

Stu's photo
Sun 04/22/18 04:48 PM


I have a job, does my partner serve my employer also?

Sorry, but what kind of stupid comment is that?
My son in law was sent to Afghanistan for 9 months. you think that is easy on his wife, my daughter? Apart from being separated so long, also the worry and stress. It's not like they're being sent to Ibiza, you know.

Furthermore, as a wife, you are uprooted too each time your partner is sent to another base. This has tremendous impact on the career you yourself can build, or not. And the same for any children involved.
If hubby is gone a lot, you have to do most everything on your own, like raising kids, taking care of every freaking responsibility that normal couples get to share. Like having a husband beside you each night when some creep breaks into your home for instance. Or someone who takes care of car maintenance.
Army wives have to do all that crap on their own. So yes, in that sense they serve as well. They too make quite the sacrifice for their country -and in my girl's case it wasn't even her country as she wasn't American-, because of their husband's choice of work.

A bit more respect would go a long way.
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Amen.. :thumbsup:☝✌

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/22/18 05:42 PM
I think its one of those where you give the benefit of the doubt, like not everyone who is able to put on a uniform cares about the rights of AMericans, they care about career advancement and stability, and not all of them see any 'action' so to speak . But we sort of accept the ASSUMPTION that wearing the uniform implies one fought for America.

I can see, as someone else said, that those spouses who are in essence sharing their spouses for months and years at a time for the good of the country(so to speak) are serving in their sacrifice "for the country".

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