You can say that again Nail
MAGA!

The big question asked is if Trump did in fact say those words. Not the same with Obama as it is a recorded fact that he did

Btw, Haiti is a sh*thole. that's is why its residents brave death in flimsy boats just at a chance of getting out of there. And their aids percentage is one of the highest in the world, their crime rate.. astronomical.


A sh*thole.. for sure.. Oh I know.. how dare I say such a terrible ( but true) thing

But read this advisory.. is sure has a " smell" to it

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/haiti

Basically it says.. don't go there and if you do, whatever you do don't go out after nightfall

well actually, neither were 'recorded', they are both claims from people off the record who were present and claimed to have heard it


but even so, the context of both are different

one was talking about a SITUATION happening with government, and the other seemed to disparage the whole of certain countries, their citizens, and their governments

and Haiti is A Country, not 'countries', as Trump allegedly referenced

and people that live in those countries do not deserve to be disparaged from coming to America, anymore than americans should be disparaged for moving to Norway from such a s**thole country with no universal healthcare, expensive education, citizens who are comfortable letting people starve and freeze unless they are 'deserving' and not to mention a sub par educational system, and gun crime.

See? Its all relative what makes a place a s**hole, and Im sure America would not take kindly to the prime minister describing it that way when talking about immigration , even if, from their perspective, they were just 'telling it like it is'

labeling a whole country makes it's citizens feel personally attacked, I dont care what excuse is used to justify it, especially if that label is used as an excuse to imply those citizens shouldnt have the chance to come to America ...

Good for you... send photos of the family vacation there.. somehow I don't see that happening :)

So here we have 2 pres.. disssing countries. Obama and Trump...a Dem & a Rep. Hmmm. seems like common knowledge to me.

its just that.. you can think it.. just not say it.. cause that's not PC... right?

Once again, OBAMA was asked not about immigration, but specifically about what happened in LIBYA ( A situation) and he said (of the situation) it had turned into a **** storm. He was not berating citizens of a country but the situation that had happened there. He was not shaming the worthiness of those citizens regarding immigration, he was answer a direct question as to a specific situation happening in Libya.


Nothing to do with dem or rep, unless understanding context is also a matter of politics.

You can obviously say whatever you want in this country, pc or not, and people can say what they want about what is said... thats how it works.

Oh.. that's right.. the sh*tshow comment. The sh*tshow he orchestrated.  
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Barack Obama says the biggest mistake of his presidency was the lack of planning for the aftermath of the fall of late Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi, with the country spiraling into chaos and grappling with violent extremists.

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So Libya became a sh*tshow.. with its residents as the unwilling actors.. in Obama's failure.

And how many died in that sh*tshow?

pardon my interruption in the obfuscating....this is JMO

--- Straining at the Gnat ---
did he say this bad word ? or did he say that
bad word ? or did he say no such word at all ?

--- While neglecting the Weightier Matters ---
injecting his PREFERENCE that immigrants from a
predominantly white country are WELCOME here
over those from a predominantly black country..

the Gnat = meaningless, sticks and stones..
the Weighty Matter = racism..

it isn't Trumps words that condemn him, it is the ideology
that has been ingrained in his mind for many years..

Even if the guy said sh*thole,why does it have to be a racist remark,first people are people..is it none of us can see people without seeing color..Seems to me that it's their problem..and maybe it's them who can't see people without seeing color. Even if he did say it why does it have to be about race ..because one is black and the other white..so it automatically becomes about race in everyone's minds..

Even if it was meant to include the people wouldn't necessarily be about their color it could be about the way they act. But that couldn't be it could it..why..because it doesn't work for those who want to make it a race thing..makes you wonder ...

if you make a comparison of the blackest to the whitest and you have the history Trump does in speech and mannerism, its not likely that bigotry is not involved. and the most obvious form would be the race.

If he said it, it had a racist ideology fueling it. I doubt he has even been to the countries he berates. And as mentioned before, 'behavior' does not apply to all citizens of any country, so at the least it is ignorance to suggest none of them should be welcomed because of how some may 'behave'

Trump didn't reference that, it's something you pulled out of your butt...

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to countries mentioned by the lawmakers.

Trump then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries such as Norway, whose prime minister he met with Wednesday. The president, according to a White House official, also suggested he would be open to more immigrants from Asian countries because he felt that they help the United States economically.

In addition, the president singled out Haiti, telling lawmakers that immigrants from that country must be left out of any deal, these people said.

“Why do we need more Haitians?” Trump said, according to people familiar with the meeting. “Take them out.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html?utm_term=.0265100ae177


I also doubt he knows how few Haitians reside among the immigrant population of the US.

So why shouldn't we be taking more from Norway , is it because the majority of the people there are white and the liberals are racist against whites , or maybe because they are christens, we know Obama didn't like christens or white folks and he is still the liberal messiah . Remember when the white cop questioned that black guy , Mr. Gates. The cop thought he was trying to break in to a house and obama said that the cop acted incorrectly.even before he knew the facts. The facts were that Mr. Gates wasn't answering the cops questions and was combative. Many other examples of the racism during the obama regime and the black caucus. I'm glad the 5 liberal loons aren't going to the state of the union. I hope the rest of the libs. decide not to go. It would free up a bunch of seats for people who deserve to be there, why reward people for bad behavior .

so why shouldn't we be taking more from Africa, is it because the majority of the people there are black and the conservatives are racist against blacks, or maybe because they are muslims, we know Trump don't like muslims or black folks and he is still the conservative messiah..

Are you under the impression that a vast hoard of Norwegians was aching to emigrate to the US, and that Obama turned them all away because they were white?

All of the rest of your claims about Obama "not liking christens" (whatever christens are), are similarly fantastic, as in just fantasies. You'll have a hard time proving ANY of them. Obama even got into trouble, you might recall, for attending a CHRISTIAN church, where the speaker said some rather nasty things that the anti-Obama crowd objected to.

And by the way, this all STILL has nothing whatsoever to do with "political correctness" or with "anti-PC."

It's still JUUUUUUUUST about the President insulting entire continents.

let me see if I can say this in a way you can understand: mostly all terrorists are Muslim. Africa is full of Muslims. Terrorists have been known to come here with illegal immigrants . No true records of individuals to do background check on. No telling how many terrorists are here already because of Obamas policy of " let em all in" . Why take a chance until we can trust who's coming in. Bet you won't find many Muslim terrorists in Norway.

do you not understand that a white person can
be a practicing muslim, just as a black person can
be a practicing christian ?

and that either one can be a practicing terrorist ??

who said anything about anyone being black or white besides you. I said most terrorists are Muslims. ..again you liberals are talking out your --- before you know what is being asked.

no way, why would someone from a successful country want to come here during the 8 yrs. obama was president. And yes he deported a family from Germany that was here seeking asylum . Man , wife and two young daughters while letting illegals flood in from Mexico . Check it out and you'll find that to be a fact. .. How grand it is for you to be the spell checker of this forum. Keep up your special talent.

no way, why would someone from a successful country want to come here during the 8 yrs. obama was president. And yes he deported a family from Germany that was here seeking asylum . Man , wife and two young daughters while letting illegals flood in from Mexico . Check it out and you'll find that to be a fact. .. How grand it is for you to be the spell checker of this forum. Keep up your special talent.

i know a brick wall when i see it...so i'll just say this
and let it be...

when a person applies for immigrant status to the US
their race nor religion nor country of origin should
have no bearing on the decision to accept them or not...

have a good night...