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me thinks i am going to regret my antfarm theory.. 
Yes - it's called feeding the Trolls. |
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i do have one question and i'm no bible scholar(or regular one)but we had adam and eve.they had two sons.where did the rest of the people come from?i mean shouldnt the human race have ended there? Adam and Eve had more than two sons. It isn't noted how many children they had - just the 3 prominant ones - Cain, Abel, and Seth. thanks you elijay.but how was the species propagated if this family was the only humans? |
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try on....helping me stay on topic.
I'm falling apart here! 
  
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me thinks i am going to regret my antfarm theory..
Yes - it's called feeding the Trolls. what troll?i am only trying to fend off mean ole wouldee and find answers.. 
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wouldee mean........nah never......
In the days of Adam after he became the father of seth were 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Then Seth fathered Enosh who also had sons and daughters and so on and so on. all through to Noah who lived five hundred years and had three sons who had children and again so on and so on....And in between these the Lord sa the sin......and that's when he asked Noah to build the arc and then we take it from there. Then God said to Noah and his sons be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Sun 11/25/07 02:37 PM
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i do have one question and i'm no bible scholar(or regular one)but we had adam and eve.they had two sons.where did the rest of the people come from?i mean shouldnt the human race have ended there? Adam and Eve had more than two sons. It isn't noted how many children they had - just the 3 prominant ones - Cain, Abel, and Seth. thanks you elijay.but how was the species propagated if this family was the only humans? OK, then. A little clarity to a very disturbing depiction.. Genesis6: 1-4. And it came to pass, when men (120..) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God ( ben elohiym....begotten of angels) saw the daughters of men(120...) that they were fair; and they took them wivesof all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man (120....), for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants ( nefeel....fallen angels) in the earth in those days; and also after that, ( hello!!! and also after that!!!!) when the sons of God ( ben elohiym...begotten of angels) came in unto the daughters of men (120...) , and bare children to them, the same became mighty men (120...) which were of old, men(582...) of renown. 120....adam..aw-dawm, from119; ruddyi.e. a human being ( an indivvidual or the species, mankind, etc.) 582....enowsh..en-oshe' ; from 605 ; prop. a mortal ( and thus differing from the more dignified 120) ; hence a man in general ( singly or collect.) :-another, X [blood-] thirsty, certain, chap[-man], diverse, fellow, X in the flower of their age, husband, ( certain, mortal) man, people, person,servant, some (X of them), + stranger, those, + their trade, It is often unexpressed in the English Version, especially when used in opposition with another word. comp. 376 376....'iysh..eesh ; contr. of 582[ or perhaps from an unused root mean. to be extant.....aaaahhhhhh......] ; a man as an individual or a male person ; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term ( and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation): ............... Please, people , study this carefully!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the most difficult passages to comprehend without having been in the time that the language was spoken and understood in terms of meaning intended. It remains one of the most disturbing single examples of the need for careful personal study of the content, context and character of the writing. If one cannot comprehend the depths of the book of Genesis, then one should not attempt to read the book of JOB!!!!!! Ignorance is bliss.... take the lighter burden and easy yoke of JESUS as preferred. Somebody, please cut and paste this for further use in this debate at a later time. 
note: the commas sequestering the phrase 'the same became mighty men which were of old' must clearly, and I do mean CLEARLY, be comprehended fully |
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okay i am still perplexed.there were one man,one woman.they had kids.i am trying to fanthom who these family members mated with.your passage seems to imply spiritual beings.
And just how many sons does God have anyway? |
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okay i am still perplexed.there were one man,one woman.they had kids.i am trying to fanthom who these family members mated with.your passage seems to imply spiritual beings. And just how many sons does God have anyway? Which God? el? eloha? elohiym? and which is really God? and which being is man? adam? enowsh? eesh? and which is really man? Confused? I bet!!!!!!
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Thus: the soul has a personal stake in choosing which spiritual influence will dictate completion of the tricotomous being of man which is comprised of soul, spirit and body once the dead body is no longer of use to the inhabitant.
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Well that cleared that up.....
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I'm just waiting for Ferel to explain what Wouldee wrote! ?
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Edited by
wouldee
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Sun 11/25/07 08:27 PM
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I'm just waiting for Ferel to explain what Wouldee wrote! ? Stay tuned....she will be back yup yup yup uh huh uh huh
But she probably won't touch it as she is very busy with her own responsibilities. It's my mountain of homework that i might have been better off keeping to myself if i want ANY time for my son!!!!
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lol lol I would be happy to explain wouldee's questions:
Which God? el? eloha? elohiym? and which is really God? ANSWER: All of them are names of God....In the Bible there are many names for God....Here are a few Elohim - God Mighty Creator Yahweh - Lord EL is another name used for God in the Bible, showing up about 200 times in the Old Testament. Father God - God There are more then 72 different names for God in the Bible....My personal favorite is The Father God...... and which being is man? ANSWER: adam? - In God's Image.....start of Man.....God breathed life into him. enowsh? -from 'anash; properly, a mortal (and thus differing from the more dignified 'adam); hence, a man in general eesh? and which is really man? ANSWER Both Adam and Enowsh I am not familar with eesh so Im going to have to say that one is not man. Confused? I bet!!!!!! Nope.......for this man knows what he speaks...and sadly not enough people are taking advantage of that fact and learning anything from him....well except may me...
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Feral - no, I meant this - what is Wouldee trying to say here with the following information?
OK, then. A little clarity to a very disturbing depiction..
Genesis6: 1-4. And it came to pass, when men (120..) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God ( ben elohiym....begotten of angels) saw the daughters of men(120...) that they were fair; and they took them wivesof all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man (120....), for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants ( nefeel....fallen angels) in the earth in those days; and also after that, ( hello!!! and also after that!!!!) when the sons of God ( ben elohiym...begotten of angels) came in unto the daughters of men (120...) , and bare children to them, the same became mighty men (120...) which were of old, men(582...) of renown. 120....adam..aw-dawm, from119; ruddyi.e. a human being ( an indivvidual or the species, mankind, etc.) 582....enowsh..en-oshe' ; from 605 ; prop. a mortal ( and thus differing from the more dignified 120) ; hence a man in general ( singly or collect.) :-another, X [blood-] thirsty, certain, chap[-man], diverse, fellow, X in the flower of their age, husband, ( certain, mortal) man, people, person,servant, some (X of them), + stranger, those, + their trade, It is often unexpressed in the English Version, especially when used in opposition with another word. comp. 376 376....'iysh..eesh ; contr. of 582[ or perhaps from an unused root mean. to be extant.....aaaahhhhhh......] ; a man as an individual or a male person ; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term ( and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation): ............... Please, people , study this carefully!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the most difficult passages to comprehend without having been in the time that the language was spoken and understood in terms of meaning intended. It remains one of the most disturbing single examples of the need for careful personal study of the content, context and character of the writing. If one cannot comprehend the depths of the book of Genesis, then one should not attempt to read the book of JOB!!!!!! Ignorance is bliss.... take the lighter burden and easy yoke of JESUS as preferred. |
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i think he wanted to show we arent from incest due to my question to him.in this passage you have Giants,fallen angels,God's sons(?) and who knows what mating with human woman to further the human race.Unfortunately I can't see how we got so many women to mate with since one family existed.Maybe i am just a simpleton and I'm missing something.
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Edited by
wouldee
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Mon 11/26/07 04:51 PM
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another distinct possibility is that the word, eesh, (376) has no clear distinction without having the original tongue and it's clarity available for true translation.
eesh may very well be extant. But when part of enowsh (582) it represents in the very least someone other than adam (120) by course of its use. Another race? or something sinister? I'll leave that there.
keep in mind, this is pre-flood. No ark yet. |
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Nephilim is used three times in the Bible. Once in Genesis 6:4 and twice in Numbers 13:33. In Numbers 13:33, we see that Nephilim refers to large people, such as the sons of Anak. Therefore, there is no reason to think that Nephilim in Genesis 6:4 means anything other than "large people".
Ben Elohim means "Sons of God." This term refers to those who are close to God. Anyone who is righteous is a son or daughter of God. Elohim doesn't mean angels, it was only used for angel once in the KJV and I would dispute that translation. Elohim is God 2346 times in the Old Testament and Angel 1 time. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: The sons of God were good people who then married people who weren't good and holy. Thus whatever was good was fouled by evil things in the world. We see throughout the Bible that God didn't approve of marriage between a believer and an unbeliever, because it's easier to be pulled down than to pull someone up. In Genesis 6:4, we see that even the good people were being corrupted by the bad things in the world. I see no support for angels making babies, Jesus said that they don't marry. |
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this is it in a nutshell
Genesis 6: 1-4 Is The Ungodly Multiply (no angels involved) Genesis 6: 5-7 The ungodly are destroyed Genesis 6: 8 on God found favor with Noah and saved him and his......and you know the rest.....if not let me know and I will continue. |
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psalms8:5.
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels(430 elohiym),and hast crowned him with glory and honor New Testament, now. This is Greek, not Hebrew. Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels(32 aggelos..a messenger; esp. an "angel" ) for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God (2316 theos...deity ) should taste death for every man. Admittedly, in the Old Testament, elohiym is only used here in Psalms this once as angel. Throughout the New Testament aggellos is used as angels. Theos is used for God. Hebrews 2:16. For verily he took not on the nature of angels( 32...aggelos ); but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Hebrews 2 :17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like his brethren, that he might be a merciful high priest in things pertaining to God (theos), to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. In a way, there seems to be some congruence with errors of the people in Genesis 2, and the remedy in Hebrews 2. Intellectual honesty requires this clarification.
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Carry on, Feral.
It's all good.
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