a trained therapists knows the difference.

and like the one i read about and visited and discussed my entire life, as much detail as possible, and the things that shaped my views.

and like he said, Science is well aware of many things out there that if they were always mentioned, would give more fuel to faith and less backing for further research.

so he was saying, Science has enough info to conclude God exists, but that is not the mission they want to be a part of.

^
and that might be why Pew Research claims more than half of the Current Scientists today believe in God!!

and in that claim, they go to CHURCH and read their BIBLES and still are a VITAL PART of the SCIENCES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IN!!

no one is here to amuse you nor to entertain you only to address your infinite lies ... funches 3;16


Adam and Eve was also the Adversary ...that's why they were all punished and curses placed on them...Adam/Man would forever toil, Eve/Women would have painful childbirth and Serpent/Snakes would crawl on their bellies

and their punishment was immediate ....so now explain the immediate punishment that took place for the adversary you are referring to ..if you can't do it...then that is proof that you and perhaps your entire family were preaching a false gospel ...that would explain those demonic forces that invaded your home

speaking of demonic forces .. you never did address very relevant need to know questions

THE QUESTION (#1)
why didn't anyone in your family ask the trucker how he knew all of your names...so come on and stop ducking and dodging and answer it...don't leave us hanging ...Jesus want to know too

i will answer why, and then we are done just like Argo.


we sat there for hours, the fuel tank was not empty but my dad thought maybe it was a vapor lock and just not showing empty, the car would not start and of course attempting to start the engine resulting in draining the battery.

we did not have mobile devices or computers in 1977.

we did not really have GPS coordinates then as well.

we had state to state individual maps.

we were stuck.
and the idea of my Grandmother grieving, my Aunt was level headed due to her position as CEO of the Company she is now retired from, my Dad a part time cop and Pastor under my Grandfather the Leading Pastor also level headed, and my Mom was overseer us my sister and i.

we were not panicking, just was stuck in the middle of nowhere and trying to decide which was the best way out.

and my Dad felt him taking a flashlight and fuel can walking the highway looking for help or a place of business was the best option.

it was pitch black in this basic turn off from the highway. so it was my Dad who had us get out of the car and form a circle holding hands and we all unitedly prayed and tried to use our Faith in this dire scenario (as in no place for children to be) here.

and i have no idea how long we prayed, but that was when the semi pulled up, after no traffic for 5 hours sitting there, and still longer because of the Construction, and we were just like Thank You God to one another and happy for this oncoming semi.

he just pulls up and hops out of the door and say's, i am here to take you to your destination. he said, put the children and grandmother in first, then the women and my Dad. but he called each one us by our names. and we did look among one another like this is weird, but the Bible teaches us to just accept the grateful gesture and thank God.

but he said he would see all of us again in heaven.

the entire time we just knew it was God.

but then when the semi vanished and we could investigate, that is when this really came more to life, especially what the State Police said of the other 2 incidents involving a semi who the police nor other semi drivers claim to have seen.


plus, the license plate did not match anything previous or current.

so we felt assured what took place.



enjoy your life funches, your philosophy is very dim, no wonder you need to put me down!!

I won't be done until I decide i'm done....

" the entire time we just knew it was God "

if you KNEW it was God why the need to investigate the disappearing semi ?

" so we felt assured what took place "

if you KNEW, why did you need extra assurance ?

since this Glorifies God, i will answer you.

my sister and i were never fearful or felt anything but normal, but i am speaking of my Grandmother, Aunt, Father, and Mother. my Grandmother, would have been then around late 50's and the other adults 30's. i mention those ages because remove the first 2 years after birth, and GOD was common knowledge to them all.

my Grandfather taught Bible based Universities and specifically taught about entertaining Angels, how to Discern the spirits, and much much more.

and why investigate something vanishing in front of you?

because you are there and everything you do to debunk it is one more reason why it confirms what you know it already is.

because with people like YOU, a miracle has to be foolproof, even when 6 people can confirm all that i am claiming. IDK why my Dad went to the State Police and tried to track the plates? maybe as a Pastor, this was something he would share preaching and wanted it to be bulletproof. i never asked him about it. maybe it was a natural police thing to do!!

Okay?
Just thinking outside YOUR box like I always do.

There are things

In reality which do not line up with your thinking or anyone elses religious thoughts.
These are everyday normal people not tying to prove anything to anyone.
People that make history making music or writing poems or writing laws or living lives the best they can.
People like you or me.

These same people who are sinners, heathens, infidels are the same people that determine your ultimate fate.
Because after-all are we not all interconnected?

In the grand scheme are we all no more than synthetic lovers?
Consider our motives?
Are we all not just looking for the ultimate love?

Here:
Walk on: Deep Purple: Bananas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHfKXRHCLwY

The creativity of these sinners is amazing!
Almost divine, unless you are unable to appreciate human creativity?
Created by humans without divine intervention?
How can this be?

Are they all, all sinners?
There are millions of songs that relay the human spirit with no mention of Yeshua or any God at all?
Can this be a ploy or diversion from the myth or a testament to reality as we humans are exposed?

In everyday life, where is God?
Where is God when our loved ones die from some meaningless death?
Where is God when our kid is sick from pink eye contracted from someone else at school?
Where is God when we actually need him?
In all fairness, where is Satan?
Neither are there beforehand.
What the hell is up with that?

Here, lemme give you a hint: THEY DON'T EXIST.
They are a lie given to you by people you were told to trust.
Problem is, they lied.
Get over it.

So now, its time to explore my reasons for denying religion.
Let's see...
#1 It doesn't make sense with reality as I experience it.
No real need for a #2.
That pretty much explains everything.
If ya need a #2 well, ask yer God, he'll tell ya.
After all, he is the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving, eternal supreme being in all the Universe.
Er did I get something wrong?

At any rate, I'm still waiting?
Strike me down.
Go for it.
I must be evil to say such things.
I'm waiting......................

Tonight: Friday Night
I explained again to my GF our relationship.
I acknowledged her affinity to empathy and thanked her.
I explained my affinity to action. Left her bewildered but informed.
I showed how she demonstrates her love for me by paying attention to mt personal needs. Greatly appreciated.
I showed my contribution of helping her get her affairs in order, again, greatly appreciated.
We both agreed we each offer unique contributions to our relationship.

In the religious relationship there is only ever a single sided contribution to the relationship.
All forthcoming contributions promised are only after you are dead.
How is that beneficial?

So, you say we will live forever.
Our short lives here are only a test or a primer.
Why test?
Why put us thru reality if we will spend eternity in bliss?
Why do it in the first place?

Here lemme put it another way.
You are an orphan.
I will inflict as much misery on you as I can muster and if you survive with a belief in me after, I will give you everything you could ever dream of.
Sound familiar?
How does that sit with you?
Obviously, it must sit well because you are ready to believe it from your religion.

Then you see others that don't believe those promises and immediately call them heathens, infidels or lost?
Only because they do not believe the same as you.
If you are among the few which believe they can be converted, you assert your beliefs upon them. Some accept and other do not.
Those that do not are eternally damned and need to be eliminated.
Kill the infidels, shame the heathens, damn those not willing to believe as you do.
Freaking ridiculous behavior from reasonable adults.

Events like 911 are testament to this.
Sure you might say it was Muslin.
Technically, it was religion.

Seriously, what if someone spoke up to one of the terrorists on the plane and told them I no longer want to be an infidel?
Do you think it would change any of the events that took place?
If I said wait, I want to be fidal.
I would ask what I need to do to become fidel.
How would the terrorists reply?

If I stood up at the funeral a church was protesting and said I no longer want to be a heathen, what reply would I get?

Does anyone actually know?
Does anyone actually, really care?

Your God tells me to go kill a bunch of children.
If I ask that person how to be more in alignment with their God.
Will they be able to tell me?
Is it REALLY about God at all?

People assume so much but it is all just delusion.
If I requested to find fidelity, who would stop and say okay, this is more important than killing everyone.
Yet, isn't one redeemed soul more important than 100 infidels?
What is the actual motive here?
A motive originating from those who should be looking for any redeeming qualities from anyone?

When they killed my people, it wasn't anything at all to do with their religion.
They might say it was but, it wasn't.
It was people acting on their own ideals.
Y'all can justify it any way ya wanna but religion was the last thing on their minds.

In the United States of America we have the freedom to voice our beliefs in public.
Protesting a fellow service member's funeral is not religious freedom, it is asserting hatred into a public domain.
No matter the religion behind such an act, it is not about religion at all.
Any reasonable person can see this.

These thing do not break my faith.
What breaks my faith is the fact religion, in all ways I know it, makes no reasonable sense to the reality I experience.

It smacks sharply in alignment with the fantasy I read from established, respected authors.
As a matter of fact, some of the stories I have read have more credibility than the religion I have been exposed to in my life.
Not that I will quote references.
Just too involved to pull them all up for the links.

But hey, as I said many times before, religions make no sense to the reality I experience while I am surviving.
It matters not which religion.

Granted when I was deluded (about many things) I was prone to believe them.
However, as I removed these delusions from my own mind, these religious conditionings also diminished.
It wasn't a planned exorcism it happened as a result of removing other delusions.

I assure you, I am as I am from reasonable enlightenment and not as an attack on religion.
Actually, I wasn't expecting it.
Thing is, when you remove delusions which are keeping you depressed, religion is a biggie.

Removing delusions is not a simple task.
Many can't do it.
It requires ultimate self-honesty and determined discipline.
The result was less stress, more control and clarity.
Things I never experienced before.

Yer belief in God or practice of religious doctrine doesn't bother me. It's what you do with it that concerns me.
When you kill, maim or incapacitate people in the name of religion you should make sure it has to do with your religion in the first place.

72 virgins are only valuable till you have sex with them,
then they are just girls.
Streets of silver and gold are only valuable if you value silver and gold.

I believe a God exists.
I believe God has no interest in my actions while I exist(or anyone elses).
When I die, I die, end of story.
It happens to everyone.
I don't need everlasting life, don't want it really.
I will be dead so I will not feel relieved or cheated or regretful or anything else.
I'll just be dead, I'm OKAY WITH THAT.
I actually PREFER that.

My God requires nothing at all from me.
I require absolutely nothing from my God.
I don't expect God to work his magic in my life.
I exist and will die.
Big deal, everybody foes.

My God initiated the first movement which started the Universe in motion.
My God exists between the moments of time.
Everywhere and everywhen.
Its that power which makes me call it God.
My God is everywhere, everywhen.
Between the moments of everything in the Universe.

It keeps the Universe being the Universe.
It doesn't care, it just is.
I know it exists because time exists.
Its the whole reason we can expect a tomorrow.

Surely someone is going to have a problem with this.
I say go for it.
I'm open to new ideas.
I am not locked in by doctrine.
I know I could be wrong.
I never get confirmation and I expect no confirmation, ever.
Tell me a better explanation, we can discuss it.
Problem is, nobody has been able to explain reality in a reasonable way that negates my beliefs.

We live in a random, chaotic Universe which doesn't care about us individually, never has.
We (the human species) will come and go like a flicker of a candlelight.
So much for mankind.

The dinosaurs (250 million years) had a larger impact that humans.
There are uncounted species on this planet which have existed much longer than humans.
Sharks, insects, even alligators and crocodiles have us beat by millions of years.
We are barely 2 million years on the scene,
We think we have it figured out but we are merely children playing with a pegboard.
Even if we survive another 2 million years...insignificant.
Thing is, we are destroying our habitat.
The Earth will recover after us.
No matter how bad we mess it up.
It may not support human life but human life is insignificant and short-term.

Religion wants you to think we are special.
Time will tell.
Even if there is heaven on Earth for us, Earth is the reality.
My God makes no promises, Your God is full of promises.
Promises which are not for everyone. Only a chosen few.
Think about it.

All-powerful, all-loving, all knowing, eternal and omnipotent.
Seems pretty silly to me.

It is really nice to read a clear and simple opinion on this thread. I agree with almost all of the above. Not sure I completely agree with using the idea of a god to explain some things, like the beginning of the universe. That's getting dangerously close to the deluded nutters posting such complicated rubbish on here. They use that idea to explain everything for which they cannot see a correct explanation. It's a bit like blaming thunderstorms on an angry god, as they did long before thunderstorms were understood. Now that science has advanced to the point where we can provide a clear and simple explanation for such phenomena, nobody believes in a god who has been upset by something that a human has said or done.

In the future, I am confident that scientific advances will explain all of those things that currently puzzle us. The difference between me and the nutters is that I am happy to wait for science to explain everything, only I won't live long enough to find out all the answers, boo hoo! The nutters are just lazy people who use the god excuse for anything that happens which is beyond their understanding. They just don't realise that science today cannot answer everything. It probably never will, but as time goes by we will learn more about our planet and everything on it, including us.

I am happy to wait. The lazy ones are deluded into thinking there is a simple answer - it's all god. I do find it quite amusing at how earnestly each of the different religions argues, "We're the true religion, all others are false!". That itself is enough to prove to me there cannot be a god. If there was, not only would the believers all be in total agreement about what this god is, but we would all know about her and would all be in agreement with each other. Threads like this one
just could not exist under those conditions!

Sometimes I wish someone could explain in simple terms exactly what god really is. Answers to that question are invariably couched in terms of what god does, or can do, or will do, or might do. What god is like (all knowing, all loving, etc) and so on. But never has anyone explained what god actually is. Of course that could just be because there is no god, so everyone would be guessing!

I've been questioning belief since sunday school tried to brainwash me, and seen supposedly good people do bad, and bad people do good, and seen psycho people go nuts on religion.

On balance I think peoples actions and reactions relating to the god thing have been bad for humanity, and not much better for the natural environment.
Populations have been kept in check at times, but at huge cost to the natural world, supplying armies and navies and their assistants.

And all the religious celebrations of this and that continue to damage the earth with massive consumption and waste, eg. in order to celebrate the northern hemisphere winter solstice, when old man chronos gets a haircut.

God does keep a lot of sheeple people and their mess in a confined area on certain days, (churches etc.), which is easier to clean up after than the heathen goat people who are off wandering everywhere with no parish house.

And fear of god probably keeps the murder and robbery rates down a bit, while giving zealot assassins and moral crusaders a reason to commit more.

no one is claiming that you have to believe in anything. i really don't care if you believe that stepping over a crack in the sidewalk is bad luck vs walking on the crack directly on purpose. if that is your deal good for you.


but i am tired of you classifying my belief as a RELIGION!!

it shows you still don't have a clue what i am discussing nor ever will, SO STOP trying to figure it out!!

and people do not get what they need from one another, if so, there would be no divorce and soul mates would be a factual sentiment.

you ARE NOT LONELY is WHAT YOU get with a SIGNIFICANT OTHER AND NOTHING MORE!!

you can live ALONE and have the SAME BENEFITS literally you get with someone else involved!!


the three of YOU (Tom - MK -NOTBEOLD) for being as intelligent that you are (AND I CAN TELL EACH ONE OF YOU ARE INTELLECTUALLY SMART)...don't have the FIRST CLUE to what i am even saying.


these antidote's about having a girlfriend, about SINNERS, and other things are so far out in RIGHT FIELD, that play was literally dead 9 outs AGO!!

How Rude .....and yet you replied back to Argo ...could it be because the name Argo reminds you of your Uncle Arlo the one that made the contract with the devil ....did you ever ask Jesus what happened to Uncle Arlo's soul after he died..or your family no longer care...out of sight out of mind


the bible might teach to accept grateful gestures but the police manuel teaches part time police officers like your Father to ask questions of suspicious characters which your Father failed to do and placed all your lives in danger ...


any serial killer that accepted Jesus as their Lord and savior will tell you that


oh so your Father did ask for I.D. and it said God?...


so after 20 hours of driving around getting lost and stranded with women and children and a grieving Grandmother your father decide to investigate a vanishing truck in a car that might once again break down in a part of a country where you got lost....your Father seem to make some very poor choices


what was the other two semi truck incidents about? did they kidnap people stranded on the road


Dude wake up ...plates that don't match is due to illegal activity ...there were a chance that your entire family could have vanished with that Truck


it may seem like that but what happen is you can't use the same tactics you use with the bible by claiming that Grandpa and Grandma stories was mistranslated from Hebrew to English ...for example....when Grandma rebuked the snake and it vanished ...do "vanished" in Hebrew means to dematerialize or do it mean to crawl away from sight

I HAVE A QUESTION TO THOSE, WHO FEEL THE EXPLANATIONS GIVEN TO US BY SCIENCE, IN WAY OF ACTUAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR, SEEMS TO BEST FIT YOUR GENERAL OVERALL VIEWPOINT OF LIFE AND THE UNIVERSE IN GENERAL :




many of those viewpoints, as pointed out by the Pew Research, come from the majority of Scientists who through their own Research, plus the research of others, solidify their belief in God every single day.

and within their own Scientific research, experiments, and all else involved in formulating a Theory, they are meshing it with the viewpoint of it coming from GOD!!

AND NONE OF YOU KNOW WHICH SCIENTISTS BELIEVES IN GOD VS THOSE WHO DO NOT WHEN THEY DO NOT CONFESS IT OPENLY
^
and that literally means, the THEORIES YOU BUY AS SCIENTIFIC FACT, very well could be an idea originally formatted by involving GOD in the process.


TO YOU WHOM FOLLOW SCIENCE AND ITS ADVANCEMENTS, do you feel if YOU BELIEVE in a SCIENTIFIC THEORY, by a Scientist or group of Scientists who formatted this Theory based upon some portion of God without mentioning it, it's just how they believe, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THEORY YOU ACCEPT AS TRUTH IS NOW FLAWED, SINCE GOD COULD HAVE BEEN A FOCUS POINT IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A THEORY??

it's cool funches,

the semi literally approached us, stopped, the brakes were set, and BOOM he was out the door.

no time for plate checks, not the kind of time needed to run 1 plate of a car involving THREE SEPARATE FAMILIES,,,and still KNEW OUR FIRST NAMES, where we lived BECAUSE THE THREE FAMILIES ALL DID NOT LIVE IN THE SAME CITY...DUFUS...and told us he would see us all later in Heaven!!


take your theories and cram them sideways because you're just showing just how can take simple harmless scenario and turn it into a mountain.

and i said, we never were panicked, just sad over our dead Grandfather!!

it's very windy here in the mountains and that must be why it double posted

anyone can claim to be a scientist ...which is why those that mix science with their religion are not scientists but scientologists .... funches 3;16

if anything, God while on Earth always had compassion for the grieving widow of those who chose to live for Him.

my grandmother chose all her life to believe in Him and during this moment she was a grieving widow!!

and that interaction removed her grief and that incident very well could have been for her while revealing it to all of us!!

That is how it is written God works and that is how i have experienced Him working..

seems legit, but they have a degree and diplomas and doctorates in every field of major science, imagine that!!

funches,

that was on my mother's side of the family.
back then, my grandmother lived in Warsaw, Indiana, and my Aunt lived on a farm in Pierceton, Indiana and they drove down to KENTUCKY and PICKED US (my Dad-Mom-Sister-Me) UP who lived in FAIRMOUNT, INDIANA literally 3 hour drive SOUTH OF WARSAW AND NEIGHBORING PIERCETON!!


and the SEMI DRIVER KNEW OUR FIRST NAMES AND WHERE WE LIVED FROM 1 SINGLE LICENSE PLATE IN 1977 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA priceless!!