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you people keep saying b7 matters, but no one has said why yet... care to explain?
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you people keep saying b7 matters, but no one has said why yet... care to explain? they also need to explain the reason of mixing Explosives and Fires! Last time I checked,Heat causes Explosives to cook off and mess up the sequence that is necessary to bring down a Building! 
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you people keep saying b7 matters, but no one has said why yet... care to explain? they also need to explain the reason of mixing Explosives and Fires! Last time I checked,Heat causes Explosives to cook off and mess up the sequence that is necessary to bring down a Building!
and an 80,000 pound steel frame fall from 1200 feet didn't help much either... |
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you people keep saying b7 matters, but no one has said why yet... care to explain? they also need to explain the reason of mixing Explosives and Fires! Last time I checked,Heat causes Explosives to cook off and mess up the sequence that is necessary to bring down a Building!
and an 80,000 pound steel frame fall from 1200 feet didn't help much either... got that right! 
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windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you? What I find odd is that you think the planes crashing into the buildings had nothing to do with the collapse. It is clear from the videos taken that day the collapse sequences started immediately above the points of plane impact. There is no way that explosives would not have been wiped out in those areas or set off by the fires. The collapse would have happened immediately. |
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windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you? What I find odd is that you think the planes crashing into the buildings had nothing to do with the collapse. It is clear from the videos taken that day the collapse sequences started immediately above the points of plane impact. There is no way that explosives would not have been wiped out in those areas or set off by the fires. The collapse would have happened immediately.
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it can not be done in the amount of time they say
What cannot? The collapse took 17.5 seconds. What is your point. Actually # 7 came down in 6 seconds Did you miss that part in your extensive research of 9/11? http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/wtc/b7.html |
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windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you? What I find odd is that you think the planes crashing into the buildings had nothing to do with the collapse. It is clear from the videos taken that day the collapse sequences started immediately above the points of plane impact. There is no way that explosives would not have been wiped out in those areas or set off by the fires. The collapse would have happened immediately.
What was in b7? What building not hit by a plane goes down in under 18 seconds AFTER they say "pull it"? The planes didn't help YOUR theory. The more an object weighs the higher the terminal velocity so why didn't the north and south tower implode and collapse in under 18 secs With let's say 80 of the original 100 tons added to the weight of the towers? The collapse started from the bottom. The 25 years is 50, Oswald's third round struck the stoplight at Dealy Plaza. |
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windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you? What I find odd is that you think the planes crashing into the buildings had nothing to do with the collapse. It is clear from the videos taken that day the collapse sequences started immediately above the points of plane impact. There is no way that explosives would not have been wiped out in those areas or set off by the fires. The collapse would have happened immediately. The planes were the explosives at the top and the diversion to draw attention away or make an excuse for the explosives. Buildings that just fall don't make the concussive sound that many first responders reported hearing. Back to Jenga since you don't seem to understand the principle of Structural load bearing construction. You can pull blocks from the top down for much longer than you can from the bottom. Plus the FACT that there has to be more horizontal bracing at the top of a skyscraper to defend against higher wind speeds. You dont control a demo from the top down, the debris field is to much collateral damage. You blow from the inside lower floors weight bearing walls struts beams etc. That's how pros do it when they have thr option and that's what happened here. Vs what happened in the allied march toward Paris. Tanks shot artillery at upper floor sniper nests and sprayed bricks stone and everything else AND THE BUILDINGS STILL STOOD. |
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Take a 6 ft piece of rebar. Hammer 2ft into the ground and torch it 1 ft from the top. Use oxyacetylene, a plasma cutter whatever you want and let me know when you get it to collapse and take out the bottom. Put 200 lbs of weight on it and get any result besides a steel candy cane. Impossible.
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Take a 6 ft piece of rebar. Hammer 2ft into the ground and torch it 1 ft from the top. Use oxyacetylene, a plasma cutter whatever you want and let me know when you get it to collapse and take out the bottom. Put 200 lbs of weight on it and get any result besides a steel candy cane. Impossible. lol... apples and oranges... i can see you have no concept of physics... |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Fri 06/26/15 06:14 PM
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windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you? What I find odd is that you think the planes crashing into the buildings had nothing to do with the collapse. It is clear from the videos taken that day the collapse sequences started immediately above the points of plane impact. There is no way that explosives would not have been wiped out in those areas or set off by the fires. The collapse would have happened immediately. The planes were the explosives at the top and the diversion to draw attention away or make an excuse for the explosives. Buildings that just fall don't make the concussive sound that many first responders reported hearing. Back to Jenga since you don't seem to understand the principle of Structural load bearing construction. You can pull blocks from the top down for much longer than you can from the bottom. Plus the FACT that there has to be more horizontal bracing at the top of a skyscraper to defend against higher wind speeds. You dont control a demo from the top down, the debris field is to much collateral damage. You blow from the inside lower floors weight bearing walls struts beams etc. That's how pros do it when they have thr option and that's what happened here. Vs what happened in the allied march toward Paris. Tanks shot artillery at upper floor sniper nests and sprayed bricks stone and everything else AND THE BUILDINGS STILL STOOD. What part of the collapse sequence starting immediately above the plane impact points don't you get? All of this that you typed is totally meaningless. 
It can't possibly be more clear.. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Fri 06/26/15 05:59 PM
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Collapsing from the bottom? Well it looks like there isn't a damn thing disturbed on the bottom floors in this picture.. Oh Wait.. Here is another view... 
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Here is WTC1 collapsing...
Yeah I can see how you think its collapsing from the bottom looking at this picture.. |
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Initial, secondary. How come nothing of the towers remained? Those pristine lower floors the survivors evacuated before reporting the sound of explosives when there was NO FIRE in the lower floors? And what part of straight down don't you understand when there was commercial airline sized DIRECTIONAL IMPACT THAT DIDN'T PENETRATE THROUGH THE INNER SUPPORT OF THE BUILDINGS? How come it didn't fragment out in the direction the 'exoskeleton' was weakened and where the most additional weight came to rest in and around it plus the burning jet fuel? Your other view clearly shows the thick black jet fueled fire smoke considerably higher than the point of collapse which is the lower grayish mushroom below. Maybe you haven't witnessed the purposeful decimation of a structure with explosives before. I have. Maybe you've never witnessed a fueled vehicle explode and burn out. I have. Maybe you have never seen an oil field burn, I have. In the oil fields of the east they burn the impurities instead of reusing or refining another fuel or oil. That smoke is black. It stands to reason that the hhottest point of the fire caused by the impact of the planes would be the floors where it hit and those directly above. Why then would the building shown in the photo you provided have a second, cold mushroom of pure concrete dust well below the point of impact?
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Initial, secondary. How come nothing of the towers remained? Those pristine lower floors the survivors evacuated before reporting the sound of explosives when there was NO FIRE in the lower floors? And what part of straight down don't you understand when there was commercial airline sized DIRECTIONAL IMPACT THAT DIDN'T PENETRATE THROUGH THE INNER SUPPORT OF THE BUILDINGS? How come it didn't fragment out in the direction the 'exoskeleton' was weakened and where the most additional weight came to rest in and around it plus the burning jet fuel? Your other view clearly shows the thick black jet fueled fire smoke considerably higher than the point of collapse which is the lower grayish mushroom below. Maybe you haven't witnessed the purposeful decimation of a structure with explosives before. I have. Maybe you've never witnessed a fueled vehicle explode and burn out. I have. Maybe you have never seen an oil field burn, I have. In the oil fields of the east they burn the impurities instead of reusing or refining another fuel or oil. That smoke is black. It stands to reason that the hhottest point of the fire caused by the impact of the planes would be the floors where it hit and those directly above. Why then would the building shown in the photo you provided have a second, cold mushroom of pure concrete dust well below the point of impact? You have no proof whatsoever to claim there was no damage to the interior columns. NONE. I don't care what you say you witnessed because you have no proof of that either. You claimed that the collapse started in the bottom of the towers 'cause that is the way pros do it'.. I show you indisputable photographic evidence that you are wrong.. And you come back with 'directional impact that didn't penetrate through the inner support'.. LMAO |
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Initial, secondary. How come nothing of the towers remained? Those pristine lower floors the survivors evacuated before reporting the sound of explosives when there was NO FIRE in the lower floors? And what part of straight down don't you understand when there was commercial airline sized DIRECTIONAL IMPACT THAT DIDN'T PENETRATE THROUGH THE INNER SUPPORT OF THE BUILDINGS? How come it didn't fragment out in the direction the 'exoskeleton' was weakened and where the most additional weight came to rest in and around it plus the burning jet fuel? Your other view clearly shows the thick black jet fueled fire smoke considerably higher than the point of collapse which is the lower grayish mushroom below. Maybe you haven't witnessed the purposeful decimation of a structure with explosives before. I have. Maybe you've never witnessed a fueled vehicle explode and burn out. I have. Maybe you have never seen an oil field burn, I have. In the oil fields of the east they burn the impurities instead of reusing or refining another fuel or oil. That smoke is black. It stands to reason that the hhottest point of the fire caused by the impact of the planes would be the floors where it hit and those directly above. Why then would the building shown in the photo you provided have a second, cold mushroom of pure concrete dust well below the point of impact? You have no proof whatsoever to claim there was no damage to the interior columns. NONE. I don't care what you say you witnessed because you have no proof of that either. You claimed that the collapse started in the bottom of the towers 'cause that is the way pros do it'.. I show you indisputable photographic evidence that you are wrong.. And you come back with 'directional impact that didn't penetrate through the inner support'.. LMAO Oh so the planes came out the other side? Your pictures show figure 8 mushrooms black above impact and grey below. Photographic evidence. |
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tomato posted >>>
so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later? Jenknee replied >>>
i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least? On many levels - what brought down Bldg #7 matters greatly; building aren't meant to just implode...for any reason! And given the terrorist attempts on the WTC's it has to be explored and examined for problems and human error that allowed that to happen at the same date within minutes for the horror that was WTC's demise! Suppressing necessary information by my government seems indicative of things that have happened in the past but it took us 25+years to peal away the cover up! Uh Hello!? Yes, of course, Building 7 ( and Benghazi) matter!! Precisely my point. All the seemingly endless corrupt events that are happening, all of it matters and it is foolish to think otherwise. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! more people with brains in their head decide to join the convo. |
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anyome with a god damn brain in their head can see without a doubt the official 9/11 story was complete BS, eEVEN THE POPLE INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATION SAID IT WAS COMPLETE BS, how much more god damn info do you need. if nayone goes to investigate911.org and reads the WHOLE page top to bottom, it all makes sense. the people who are doing this $h1t arent even lying about it, and yet there is still people who dont beliebe, i dont get it. WAKE THE PHUCK UP AMERICA. TPP is one of the last nails in the coffin before the 1 world government shows.
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http://investigate911.org/
everyone needs to read this whole page, top to bottom, it will most likely change your views about this subject. dont take my word for it. READ IT YOURSELF! |
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