Topic: 15 disturbing facts about 9/11
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Fri 06/26/15 02:18 AM

Imagine how this planning session between Bush, Rummy and Cheney must have gone:



BUSH: So, what's the plan again?

CHENEY: Well, we need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. So what we've decided to do is crash a whole bunch of remote-controlled planes into Wall Street and the Pentagon, say they're real hijacked commercial planes, and blame it on the towelheads; then we'll just blow up the buildings ourselves to make sure they actually fall down.

RUMSFELD: Right! And we'll make sure that some of the hijackers are agents of Saddam Hussein! That way we'll have no problem getting the public to buy the invasion.

CHENEY: No, Don, we won't.

RUMSFELD: We won't?

CHENEY: No, that's too obvious. We'll make the hijackers al-Qaeda and then just imply a connection to Iraq.

RUMSFELD: But if we're just making up the whole thing, why not just put Saddam's fingerprints on the attack?

CHENEY: (sighing) It just has to be this way, Don. Ups the ante, as it were. This way, we're not insulated if things go wrong in Iraq. Gives us incentive to get the invasion right the first time around.

BUSH: I'm a total idiot who can barely read, so I'll buy that. But I've got a question. Why do we need to crash planes into the Towers at all? Since everyone knows terrorists already tried to blow up that building complex from the ground up once, why don't we just blow it up like we plan to anyway, and blame the bombs on the terrorists?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, you don't understand. It's much better to sneak into the buildings ourselves in the days before the attacks, plant the bombs, and then make it look like it was exploding planes that brought the buildings down. That way, we involve more people in the plot, stand a much greater chance of being exposed, and needlessly complicate everything!

CHENEY: Of course, just toppling the Twin Towers will never be enough. No one would give us the war mandate we need if we just blow up the Towers. Clearly, we also need to shoot a missile at a small corner of the Pentagon to create a mightily underpublicized additional symbol of international terrorism -- and then, obviously, we need to fake a plane crash in the middle of nowhere somewhere in rural Pennsylvania.

RUMSFELD: Yeah, it goes without saying that the level of public outrage will not be sufficient without that crash in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

CHENEY: And the Pentagon crash -- we'll have to do it in broad daylight and say it was a plane, even though it'll really be a cruise missile.

BUSH: Wait, why do we have to use a missile?

CHENEY: Because it's much easier to shoot a missile and say it was a plane. It's not easy to steer a real passenger plane into the Pentagon. Planes are hard to come by.

BUSH: But aren't we using two planes for the Twin Towers?

CHENEY: Mr. President, you're missing the point. With the Pentagon, we use a missile, and say it was a plane.

BUSH: Right, but I'm saying, why don't we just use a plane and say it was a plane? We'll be doing that with the Twin Towers, right?

CHENEY: Right, but in this case, we use a missile. (Throws hands up in frustration) Don, can you help me out here?

RUMSFELD: Mr. President, in Washington, we use a missile because it's sneakier that way. Using an actual plane would be too obvious, even though we'll be doing just that in New York.

BUSH: Oh, okay.

RUMSFELD: The other good thing about saying that it was a passenger jet is that that way, we have to invent a few hundred fictional victims and account for a nonexistent missing crew and plane. It's always better when you leave more cover story to invent, more legwork to do, and more possible holes to investigate. Doubt, legwork, and possible exposure -- you can't pull off any good conspiracy without them.

BUSH: You guys are brilliant! Because if there's one thing about Americans -- they won't let a president go to war without a damn good reason. How could we ever get the media, the corporate world, and our military to endorse an invasion of a secular Iraqi state unless we faked an attack against New York at the hands of a bunch of Saudi religious radicals? Why, they'd never buy it. Look at how hard it was to get us into Vietnam, Iraq the last time, Kosovo?

CHENEY: Like pulling teeth!

RUMSFELD: Well, I'm sold on the idea. Let's call the Joint Chiefs, the FAA, the New York and Washington DC fire departments, Rudy Giuliani, all three networks, the families of a thousand fictional airline victims, MI-5, the FBI, FEMA, the NYPD, Larry Eagleburger, Osama bin Laden, Noam Chomsky and the fifty thousand other people we'll need to pull this off. There isn't a moment to lose!

BUSH: Don't forget to call all of those Wall Street hotshots who donated $100 million to our last campaign. They'll be thrilled to know that we'll be targeting them for execution as part of our thousand-tentacled modern-day bonehead Reichstag scheme! After all, if we're going to make martyrs -- why not make them out of our campaign paymasters? ****, didn't the Merrill Lynch guys say they needed a refurbishing in their New York offices?

RUMSFELD: Oh, they'll get a refurbishing, all right. Just in time for the "Big Wedding"!

ALL THREE: (cackling) Mwah-hah-hah!


The Idiocy Behind the '9/11 Truth' Movement
Why the "9/11 Truth" movement makes the Left Behind series read like Shakespeare.

http://www.alternet.org/story/42181?page=3 laugh


its not just bush and cheney conrad. there people above them pulling the strings, dont believe me? here:

Henry Kissinger (NWO front man) says, "Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy", and that "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns".

Prepare to be "outraged" at what Henry Kissinger (member of The Committee of 300) was recorded as saying in his speech at a Bilderberg Group meeting. "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the Bilderberg meeting in Evian, France, May 21, 1992

"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries." --Henry Kissinger, reported by Leuren Moret, Ph.D. (ABD), Geoscientist, former Scientist at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, expert witness at the International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan at Tokyo, currently an environmental commissioner for the City of Berkeley, CA

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." --Henry Kissinger, as quoted in Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW’s in Vietnam (1990), by Monika Jensen Stevenson and William Stevenson

"In Haig's presence, Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy." --Bob Woodward & Carl Bernstein in their book The Final Days, second Touchstone paperback edition (1984, chapter 14, page 194)

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." --Dresden James

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Fri 06/26/15 02:24 AM
"We are on the verge of a global transformation all we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." --David Rockefeller

David Rockefeller is a coconspirator, which is fashioning a "New World Order" under an "Authoritarian Global Government".

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." --Congressman Larry P. MacDonald, 1976 (Killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets), Introduction to The Rockefeller File (1976), by Gary Allen

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." --David Rockefeller, cofounder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, Baden-Baden, Germany, in June of 1991, published in the Hilaire duBerrier Report

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." --Lord Acton

"It must not be felt that these heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called "international" or "merchant" bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks. This dominance of investment bankers was based on their control over the flows of credit and investment funds in their own countries and throughout the world. They could dominate the financial and industrial systems of their own countries by their influence over the flow of current funds through bank loans, the discount rate, and the re-discounting of commercial debts; they could dominate governments by their control over current government loans and the play of the international exchanges. Almost all of this power was exercised by the personal influence and prestige of men who had demonstrated their ability in the past to bring off successful financial coupe, to keep their word, to remain cool in a crisis, and to share their winning opportunities with their associates. In this system the Rothschilds had been preeminent during much of the nineteenth century, but, at the end of that century, they were being replaced by J. P. Morgan whose central office was in New York, although it was always operated as if it were in London (where it had, indeed, originated as George Peabody and Company in 1838). Old J. P. Morgan died in 1913, but was succeeded by his son of the same name (who had been trained in the London branch until 1901), while the chief decisions in the firm were increasingly made by Thomas W. Lamont after 1924. But these relationships can be described better on a national basis later. At the present stage we must follow the efforts of the central bankers to compel the world to return to the gold standard of 1914 in the postwar conditions following 1918." --Dr. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, mentor to U.S. President Bill Clinton, renowned Historian, Professor of History at Georgetown University, consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, and the Select House Committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration, which went on to establish NASA. During his presidential acceptance speech at the 1992 Democratic National Convention, future U.S. President Bill Clinton named Dr. Quigley as an important influence.

"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." --Lord Acton

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." --David Rockefeller, Memoirs (page 405), his autobiography

"And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that. All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely." --Lord Acton


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Fri 06/26/15 02:33 AM


There is too much in question. Anybody who looks realisticly at the aftermath can deduce that ONE black box was recovered. 1. Pennsylvania, flight 93 or a reasonable facsimile thereof. What would that number of black boxes mean? The deduction that this could be accomplished without 'help' is unreasonable, unrealistic, as highly unlikely as possible without being impossible. The delay to scramble fighters THAT day and the rehearsed response from W or the worst slip of any political tongue in the U.S.

not too mention that just like every other terrorist attack, our military just happened to be conducting drills that day. of what you ask? terrorists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. so how about that 1, must be just a coincidence that every time there is a terrorist attack our government just happens to be doing a drill of the exact same type of scenario. i find that quite funny.



see that? now heres another controlled demo of a building, looks pretty god damn similar to me!



Oh noooohhhhhhh! Bottom fahl before top come down too many pepuhls aska queschin. You gotta maka top fahl first, then bottom fahl, you no unnastann physik.

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Fri 06/26/15 02:39 AM



There is too much in question. Anybody who looks realisticly at the aftermath can deduce that ONE black box was recovered. 1. Pennsylvania, flight 93 or a reasonable facsimile thereof. What would that number of black boxes mean? The deduction that this could be accomplished without 'help' is unreasonable, unrealistic, as highly unlikely as possible without being impossible. The delay to scramble fighters THAT day and the rehearsed response from W or the worst slip of any political tongue in the U.S.

not too mention that just like every other terrorist attack, our military just happened to be conducting drills that day. of what you ask? terrorists hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. so how about that 1, must be just a coincidence that every time there is a terrorist attack our government just happens to be doing a drill of the exact same type of scenario. i find that quite funny.



see that? now heres another controlled demo of a building, looks pretty god damn similar to me!



Oh noooohhhhhhh! Bottom fahl before top come down too many pepuhls aska queschin. You gotta maka top fahl first, then bottom fahl, you no unnastann physik.

hahaha. its ok when conrads grandkids grow up to be slaves for international bankers and they say "mommy and daddy, why didnt grandpa stop these bad men?" and conrads son/daughter replies "well kids, he was too busy trying to make fun of people online, instead of seeing the real truth that was right in front of his face the whole time"

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Fri 06/26/15 02:44 AM
Currently, in the United States of America, only (4) corporations own 99% of all mainstream media sources, including TV, newspapers, and radio. This consolidation of ownership has led to a huge amount of control over what you and I see on TV. This is a huge problem!

Let’s all keep in mind that our enemy, the "Criminal Conspirators", own and control the mainstream media, which is their "big gun" in the "info war". If it’s on mainstream TV, you can bet that its propaganda, which attempts to brainwash the masses into accepting their insidious agenda to form an "Authoritarian Global Government", under the cloak of the U.N. They use "psychological incrementalism", a.k.a. "gradualism", because psychologists say that you can get people to do and think most anything if it is introduced gradually enough.

One of their favorite "Psyops" (psychological operations/warfare) tools is "Cointelpro", which is designed to "neutralize" their opposition. They use "ridicule" (name-calling) for example, to "vilify" their opponents. They know that most people have a "herd mentality" and will blindly follow their "talking heads" and become "repeaters" of their disingenuous mantras. Thus, our enemy manipulates fools into becoming their unwitting agents, who help them create a fraudulent public perception. For example, saying that "conspiracy theories" are "crazy", when in fact, it would be "crazy" not to think, given the evidence, that such conspiracies exist. The adage is, boil the frog slowly and he will stay in the pot until death. However, if the heat is raised too quickly, he will jump out.

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Fri 06/26/15 02:47 AM



I like the nano thermite theory! As the prof said (since fired from his job) 'hundreds of tons!' and then, we learn it can be mixed with regular explosive and painted onto beams but of course, CTs can't decide if it was melting steel or exploding it.

Hundreds of tons, painted onto beams. Mixed with regular everyday corner store C4 and brought up in lunch buckets, five pounds at a time for ............... let's see ......... five pounds, and a hundred tons ...................... that's two hundred thousand pounds ................... five pounds for forty thousand trips with the thermite not to mention the C4.

Or, Jeb Bush helping (Cheney's heart wouldn't take the strain), that's only twenty thousand trips a piece just to get the stuff there.

Ok, so, is there any record of workers all over the place with buckets of slop bringing hundreds of tons into the access panels to paint this crap onto the beams and pillars? And, when working with slop, it doesn't all go where you want it to, is there any record of people over the months/weeks/years whatever getting sick from having a strange substance (which explosives do to people) getting sick from contact their skin and even their food or drink? That is probably the main evidence that there was an inside job is the sickness rate of the people who worked in the WTC.

And, now we have to get the charges up there remembering that every place there was this 'special' material sloped on, it has to blow as the evidence can't remain as some shmuck worker on the ground might pull up a fragment of metal with a piece of det cord, remote det or whatever on it attatched to some painted on explosive thermite which didn't go off.

So, that's a lot of stuff to get done. Lot of people. Lot of construction people with passes, excuses, paychecks etc. All without being noticed by the union who took care of the buildings.

How did they do it? And, without anybody getting sick, spilling one once of this stuff onto the carpets, clothes, into the air ducts, and without being noticed? And the unions had no problem i with these non union guys just doing all this work too.

And ... everything hinges on the planes hitting the buildings. If they don't hit, the explosives will be discovered and the guys that put it all there (100 - 1000 non union guys) will get lethal injections. They have no problem doing this work over weeks or months knowing that their *** is covered by dirty terrorists living in caves in Afghanistan so, are in like a dirty shirt. on the big day, they're nervous, they have to have the explosive evidence all destroyed or their *** is toast in Terra Haute so they're anxious yet, once the planes hit, they wait ............ calmly waiting ........ they need all the evidence to go up. They can't have any inspector see the explosives, wires, detonators, remote devices whatever yet they wait ....... and wait ........ long after they could logically blow the building .........rolling on the floor laughing

with the sleep sleepsleep WT7 just sitting there with anybody who wants to find the explosives there about to expose the whole thing sending them all to the injection chamber and then ........

They blow it.

Nothing far fetched going on there. Union guys risking their lives on the promise that some dudes living in a cave will come through with an elaborate plan kept secret for years and on four separate planes. And nobody has said a word, nobody has had any seocnd thoughts of guilt, nobody has found religion or guilt in all this time. Nobody has gotten murdered, none of the people who are exposing this conspiracy are being silenced.

The entire government of the USA wants them dead and here they are, just targets for a poisoning, letter bomb, faulty ground in a hot tub, a heart attack and ......... they're all still spewing the nonsense. laugh

well conrad people that worked in the trade centers said for over a year there was people messing with the steel, thats ample time to put bombs or whatever they did to weaken the structure of the building. fire damage alone did not cause those buildings to freefall like that.


your correct, the two 100 ton planes that hit it at 600MPH fully loaded with fuel helped too..

Let's focus on one plane first since that numberdy stuff gets all mathified.
1. ONE airplane gets fueled and loaded before takeoff.
2. Airplane ignites engines and prepares to taxi (move from the concourse or loading area) to its runway.
3. Pilot brings engines up to speed along the runway.
4. Plane lifts landing gear and climbs to 20,000ft
5. Plane maintains engine speed until it reaches destination (sadly in this case 1wtc)
How much fuel does this plane have? Feel free to explain how you arrived at your answer wit them numberdy mathifications.... Your response will be timed.

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Fri 06/26/15 03:02 AM


The Secret Covenant

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.
The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

CThe recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.


looks a little familiar, doesnt it?

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Fri 06/26/15 03:17 AM
Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, Brigham Young University Professor, co-author of the peer-reviewed paper concluding Nano-thermitic explosives in WTC dust.

Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, Brigham Young University Professor, Materials Scientist and Director of the Transmition Electron Microscopy Laboratory at BYU, co-author of a published paper by a noted scientific group, who discovered hard physical evidence of Nano-thermitic explosives in multiple samples of dust from the World Trade Center catastrophe.

Nano-thermite or Super-thermite is Thermite in an ultrafine form, composed of aluminum and iron oxide with at least one component being approximately 100 nanometers or less, often along with silicon and carbon. Nano-thermite is a high-explosive. Standard Thermite is not an explosive—it is an incendiary. Thermate is Thermite + sulfur, which lowers steel's melting point. Thermate based incendiaries are used by demolition experts to cut through massive steel support columns to weaken buildings in the preliminary stages of controlled demolitions. Thermate is packed into patented "collars", which are wrapped around steel support beams at 45-degree angles. Thermitic-based reactions produce molten iron as well as molten iron microspheres as byproducts. A distinctive chemical signature in its residue also remains as evidence of Thermitic based reactions, samples of which, originating from all three WTC Towers, as well as throughout ground zero, tested positive for Thermitic based reactions. Many credible witnesses are on record as seeing large pools of molten metal. Large multi-ton iron rich "meteorites" have been found (pictured further below) and have been tested positive as being produced by Thermitic reactions.

"The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the tax payers will be saved immense sums of interest. The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the government's greatest creative opportunity." --Abraham Lincoln, assassinated President of the U.S.

Dr. Steven E. Jones, Physicist who was first to discover Nano-thermitic explosives in the WTC dust, co-authored the peer-reviewed paper concluding his discovery.

Dr. Steven E. Jones is a respected Physicist, who has authored numerous peer-reviewed papers that have been published in prestigious scientific journals, including Nature, Scientific American, and the Journal of Physical Chemistry. Dr. Jones is one of nine international scientists who discovered hard physical evidence of Nano-thermitic explosives in multiple samples of dust from the World Trade Center catastrophe. Dr. Jones is Professor Emeritus of Physics at Brigham Young University and a pioneer in scientific research of Thermitic pyrotechnics used to bring down the WTC Towers.

Corroborating evidence of Dr. Jones’s results includes testing by government agencies and private independent laboratories (see test results below). The evidence clearly indicates the presence of Thermitic based explosives found at the WTC. All three World Trade Center Towers were pulverized by controlled demolitions using Thermite based incendiaries to cut steel support columns and Superthermite explosives (a.k.a. Nano-thermite or energetic nanocomposites) as "cutter charges".

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. ...and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." --James A. Garfield, assassinated President of the U.S.

Raymond L. McGovern, Chairman of National Intelligence Estimates, 27-year CIA Veteran says, "The 9/11 report is a joke."

"The 9/11 report is a joke. Just as Hitler in 1933 cynically exploited the burning of the parliament building, the Reichstag, this is exactly what our President did. That's certainly an impeachable offense. The 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited. The whole war on terror was based on a prior deception." --Raymond L. McGovern, former Chairman of National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President's Daily Brief for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

This is a real national security emergency and is not a joke. 9/11 was indeed an inside job and a crime against humanity.

It is every Americans constitutional duty to protect our county against all enemies, foreign and domestic. America needs our help! The time to take action and sound the alarm is now! Beware of those, who use "name calling" to "vilify" genuine American Patriots, who so gallantly speak truth to power. If it's not civil it's likely not scientific.

The movement of states to secede from the nation will be taken up by the globalist puppet's and then once divided they will conquer. They will use whatever means possible and adapt as necessary. The lack of contentment will be brought up by the politicians giving the feeling to the people that they are being heard and nothing of substance will happen. Normal pattering of events indicates a high likelihood of a major war to further consolidate the powers of the Oligarchy and bring about their "New World Order".

"In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility - I welcome it." --U.S. President John F. Kennedy

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Fri 06/26/15 03:21 AM
http://investigate911.org/

everyone needs to go to this website and read EVERYTHING that is on there, and you will truly see what is happening to america. the people who have hijacked our government dont even lie about it, they flaunt is publicly thinking that americans are too stupid and lazy to ever catch on, and so far they are right for the most part.

once you read everything, it will all become clear what is being perpetrated against us, we can stop it, but we have to want to stop it!

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Fri 06/26/15 04:32 AM



The Secret Covenant

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.
The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

CThe recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.


looks a little familiar, doesnt it?

Where was this in 2003 when W was running (with stolen votes) for his 2nd term?

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Fri 06/26/15 06:02 AM
what, the secret covenant?

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Fri 06/26/15 06:37 AM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Fri 06/26/15 06:39 AM
Interesting reading...and this in particular caught my attention quickly>>> clipped from Tomato's post ^^^

Let's all keep in mind that our enemy, the "Criminal Conspirators", own and control the mainstream media, which is their "big gun" in the "info war". If it'��s on mainstream TV, you can bet that its propaganda, which attempts to brainwash the masses into accepting their insidious agenda to form an "Authoritarian Global Government", under the cloak of the U.N. They use "psychological incrementalism", a.k.a. "gradualism", because psychologists say that you can get people to do and think most anything if it is introduced gradually enough.


If anyone can't imagine that this method is even plausible then they haven't been paying attention to the hate rhetoric - lies - and out right intentional skewing of the 'TRUTH' by media outlets like 'FAUX NEWS'! When they support such vitriolic hate mongers like: Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck/Bill O'Reilly and those ever present talking heads that pretend to be 'FACTUAL NEWS PEOPLE'...and some consistent 'BIRTHERS' only ignite that continual BONFIRE by being so F'n gullible...
And if our current POTUS wasn't bi-racial --- there'd be zero issues with most of this media driven hate and skewed truth!

And yet - yet the very fact and historic writings about how Empires were built - countries were over thrown - the Christian Crusades - Pharaohs invaded other border nations - Missionaries were sent out into new worlds; was all driven by GREED and LUST FOR POWER!
The lowly grunts have always been expendable-collateral and we just seem to fall into lock step with the directive from those 'upper echelon' that tell us what to think - do - eat - live!

Not much has changed from those ancient writings - except the technology and media's ability to spread the word to the masses in such a more expedient way!

This has been a good read --- quite refreshing from the many regurgitated BS threads about 'BIRTHERS/members ranting about Liberals/the Rebel Flag'...TY flowerforyou


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Fri 06/26/15 08:56 AM




I like the nano thermite theory! As the prof said (since fired from his job) 'hundreds of tons!' and then, we learn it can be mixed with regular explosive and painted onto beams but of course, CTs can't decide if it was melting steel or exploding it.

Hundreds of tons, painted onto beams. Mixed with regular everyday corner store C4 and brought up in lunch buckets, five pounds at a time for ............... let's see ......... five pounds, and a hundred tons ...................... that's two hundred thousand pounds ................... five pounds for forty thousand trips with the thermite not to mention the C4.

Or, Jeb Bush helping (Cheney's heart wouldn't take the strain), that's only twenty thousand trips a piece just to get the stuff there.

Ok, so, is there any record of workers all over the place with buckets of slop bringing hundreds of tons into the access panels to paint this crap onto the beams and pillars? And, when working with slop, it doesn't all go where you want it to, is there any record of people over the months/weeks/years whatever getting sick from having a strange substance (which explosives do to people) getting sick from contact their skin and even their food or drink? That is probably the main evidence that there was an inside job is the sickness rate of the people who worked in the WTC.

And, now we have to get the charges up there remembering that every place there was this 'special' material sloped on, it has to blow as the evidence can't remain as some shmuck worker on the ground might pull up a fragment of metal with a piece of det cord, remote det or whatever on it attatched to some painted on explosive thermite which didn't go off.

So, that's a lot of stuff to get done. Lot of people. Lot of construction people with passes, excuses, paychecks etc. All without being noticed by the union who took care of the buildings.

How did they do it? And, without anybody getting sick, spilling one once of this stuff onto the carpets, clothes, into the air ducts, and without being noticed? And the unions had no problem i with these non union guys just doing all this work too.

And ... everything hinges on the planes hitting the buildings. If they don't hit, the explosives will be discovered and the guys that put it all there (100 - 1000 non union guys) will get lethal injections. They have no problem doing this work over weeks or months knowing that their *** is covered by dirty terrorists living in caves in Afghanistan so, are in like a dirty shirt. on the big day, they're nervous, they have to have the explosive evidence all destroyed or their *** is toast in Terra Haute so they're anxious yet, once the planes hit, they wait ............ calmly waiting ........ they need all the evidence to go up. They can't have any inspector see the explosives, wires, detonators, remote devices whatever yet they wait ....... and wait ........ long after they could logically blow the building .........rolling on the floor laughing

with the sleep sleepsleep WT7 just sitting there with anybody who wants to find the explosives there about to expose the whole thing sending them all to the injection chamber and then ........

They blow it.

Nothing far fetched going on there. Union guys risking their lives on the promise that some dudes living in a cave will come through with an elaborate plan kept secret for years and on four separate planes. And nobody has said a word, nobody has had any seocnd thoughts of guilt, nobody has found religion or guilt in all this time. Nobody has gotten murdered, none of the people who are exposing this conspiracy are being silenced.

The entire government of the USA wants them dead and here they are, just targets for a poisoning, letter bomb, faulty ground in a hot tub, a heart attack and ......... they're all still spewing the nonsense. laugh

well conrad people that worked in the trade centers said for over a year there was people messing with the steel, thats ample time to put bombs or whatever they did to weaken the structure of the building. fire damage alone did not cause those buildings to freefall like that.


your correct, the two 100 ton planes that hit it at 600MPH fully loaded with fuel helped too..

Let's focus on one plane first since that numberdy stuff gets all mathified.
1. ONE airplane gets fueled and loaded before takeoff.
2. Airplane ignites engines and prepares to taxi (move from the concourse or loading area) to its runway.
3. Pilot brings engines up to speed along the runway.
4. Plane lifts landing gear and climbs to 20,000ft
5. Plane maintains engine speed until it reaches destination (sadly in this case 1wtc)
How much fuel does this plane have? Feel free to explain how you arrived at your answer wit them numberdy mathifications.... Your response will be timed.
enough to bring down the building...

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Fri 06/26/15 09:04 AM

Interesting reading...and this in particular caught my attention quickly>>> clipped from Tomato's post ^^^

Let's all keep in mind that our enemy, the "Criminal Conspirators", own and control the mainstream media, which is their "big gun" in the "info war". If it'��s on mainstream TV, you can bet that its propaganda, which attempts to brainwash the masses into accepting their insidious agenda to form an "Authoritarian Global Government", under the cloak of the U.N. They use "psychological incrementalism", a.k.a. "gradualism", because psychologists say that you can get people to do and think most anything if it is introduced gradually enough.


If anyone can't imagine that this method is even plausible then they haven't been paying attention to the hate rhetoric - lies - and out right intentional skewing of the 'TRUTH' by media outlets like 'FAUX NEWS'! When they support such vitriolic hate mongers like: Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck/Bill O'Reilly and those ever present talking heads that pretend to be 'FACTUAL NEWS PEOPLE'...and some consistent 'BIRTHERS' only ignite that continual BONFIRE by being so F'n gullible...
And if our current POTUS wasn't bi-racial --- there'd be zero issues with most of this media driven hate and skewed truth!

And yet - yet the very fact and historic writings about how Empires were built - countries were over thrown - the Christian Crusades - Pharaohs invaded other border nations - Missionaries were sent out into new worlds; was all driven by GREED and LUST FOR POWER!
The lowly grunts have always been expendable-collateral and we just seem to fall into lock step with the directive from those 'upper echelon' that tell us what to think - do - eat - live!

Not much has changed from those ancient writings - except the technology and media's ability to spread the word to the masses in such a more expedient way!

This has been a good read --- quite refreshing from the many regurgitated BS threads about 'BIRTHERS/members ranting about Liberals/the Rebel Flag'...TY flowerforyou



thank you, if you read the whole website top to bottom, everything will become clear.

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Fri 06/26/15 01:21 PM
Edited by Jenknee on Fri 06/26/15 01:37 PM



just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?


i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?


Note; Sorry but I had a tech malfunction and this site does not allow me to delete my empty (except for the quote) post. See my corrected comment below.

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Fri 06/26/15 01:28 PM

tomato stated >>>

thank you, if you read the whole website top to bottom, everything will become clear.


When I stated "I read"...unlike a few members around here that just jump in midway through the entire topic and skip all those worthy posts --- I never do that; I READ IT ALL. :wink: flowerforyou

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Fri 06/26/15 01:29 PM



just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?


i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?



Reading the above quote where it states, "why does building 7 matter in the least?" reminds me of Hillary Clinton talking about Benghazi, " What difference at this point does it make?" For the record, Building 7 does matter and so does what happened in Benghazi!!! How anyone can be so apathetic is mind boggling! I could say a lot more about this character/poster but he will remain the same.

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Fri 06/26/15 01:35 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Fri 06/26/15 01:37 PM
tomato posted >>>
so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?

Jenknee replied >>>
i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?


On many levels - what brought down Bldg #7 matters greatly; building aren't meant to just implode...for any reason! And given the terrorist attempts on the WTC's it has to be explored and examined for problems and human error that allowed that to happen at the same date within minutes for the horror that was WTC's demise!

Suppressing necessary information by my government seems indicative of things that have happened in the past but it took us 25+years to peal away the cover up!

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Fri 06/26/15 01:45 PM




just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?


i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?



Reading the above quote where it states, "why does building 7 matter in the least?" reminds me of Hillary Clinton talking about Benghazi, " What difference at this point does it make?" For the record, Building 7 does matter and so does what happened in Benghazi!!! How anyone can be so apathetic is mind boggling! I could say a lot more about this character/poster but he will remain the same.


say what you got to say... i will

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Fri 06/26/15 01:46 PM

tomato posted >>>
so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?

Jenknee replied >>>
i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?


On many levels - what brought down Bldg #7 matters greatly; building aren't meant to just implode...for any reason! And given the terrorist attempts on the WTC's it has to be explored and examined for problems and human error that allowed that to happen at the same date within minutes for the horror that was WTC's demise!

Suppressing necessary information by my government seems indicative of things that have happened in the past but it took us 25+years to peal away the cover up!


Uh Hello!?

Yes, of course, Building 7 ( and Benghazi) matter!! Precisely my point. All the seemingly endless corrupt events that are happening, all of it matters and it is foolish to think otherwise.