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Inability, or at least refusal, to properly spell words is, to me, a sign that a person is willfully uneducated. Spelling is taught to children from the very instant they enter school, and if they cannot (or refuse to) learn how to spell basic words after 12 years of mandatory public education, then how can I expect them to learn other, more important things like philosophy, law, literature, or gods help me, the VCR programming guide? Now if someone was born in a non-English speaking/writing country, and they were learning the language, that's something else. We need to give those who WANT to learn the same leeway we grant young children, because their language development is at a similar level. Misspelling "bad" shouldn't happen all that often, but misspelling "exhalation" might be slightly trickier. Even native speakers frequently get "they're/their/there" wrong, and other similar-sounding words besides. Well said! 
Not really. You would be surprised how many people who struggle with illiteracy today even after completing school. It is not a measure of intelligence or lack there of, but a failure on the part of the education systems ability to be flexible in teaching methods to accomodate those who have difficulty or learn differently than the the methods used and thereby fall through the cracks. If you learn easily you can breeze through, if you have obvious learning deficits you may be assigned assistance but if you fall somewhere in the middle ie: smart enough to deduce what is going on, you can squeeze through with out actually acquiring the skills. These individuals can read well enough to get through what they need to but accurate spelling may be a lifelong challenge. It is not a measure of intelligence at all but lack of acquired skills. It also does not indicate laziness or refusal when there is a lack of resources to help them. As they reach adulthood they may be conditioned to think they cannot learn and develop other skills to cope. Some of these individuals function very well in society and have excellent careers. I am always amazed when I encounter a professional person who consistantly misspells or misuses words but it happens more than you might think. With the lowered levels of achievements required to get the kids graduated and out of the schools these days, this will happen more and more with no fault of their own. There are all kinds of struggles in this world. 
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Inability, or at least refusal, to properly spell words is, to me, a sign that a person is willfully uneducated. Spelling is taught to children from the very instant they enter school, and if they cannot (or refuse to) learn how to spell basic words after 12 years of mandatory public education, then how can I expect them to learn other, more important things like philosophy, law, literature, or gods help me, the VCR programming guide? Now if someone was born in a non-English speaking/writing country, and they were learning the language, that's something else. We need to give those who WANT to learn the same leeway we grant young children, because their language development is at a similar level. Misspelling "bad" shouldn't happen all that often, but misspelling "exhalation" might be slightly trickier. Even native speakers frequently get "they're/their/there" wrong, and other similar-sounding words besides. Well said!
Not really. You would be surprised how many people who struggle with illiteracy today even after completing school. It is not a measure of intelligence or lack there of, but a failure on the part of the education systems ability to be flexible in teaching methods to accomodate those who have difficulty or learn differently than the the methods used and thereby fall through the cracks. If you learn easily you can breeze through, if you have obvious learning deficits you may be assigned assistance but if you fall somewhere in the middle ie: smart enough to deduce what is going on, you can squeeze through with out actually acquiring the skills. These individuals can read well enough to get through what they need to but accurate spelling may be a lifelong challenge. It is not a measure of intelligence at all but lack of acquired skills. It also does not indicate laziness or refusal when there is a lack of resources to help them. As they reach adulthood they may be conditioned to think they cannot learn and develop other skills to cope. Some of these individuals function very well in society and have excellent careers. I am always amazed when I encounter a professional person who consistantly misspells or misuses words but it happens more than you might think. With the lowered levels of achievements required to get the kids graduated and out of the schools these days, this will happen more and more with no fault of their own. There are all kinds of struggles in this world.
This is taking us into completely off topic territory. You're both right and wrong on certain points, but to get into that requires a long, very off topic rant. Let's just say that public education isn't as great as most people think it is. In certain places it's not bad, but it is catered to "the lowest common denominator." |
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Edited by
jacktrades
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Mon 03/30/15 12:24 AM
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There simply does not exist a better speller than myself. Having said that, I hold no one to those impossible standards. If they manage to communicate the thought, I am good with it. Exactly! Well said. I am not looking for a spelling bee champ I am looking for someone sweet, and nice. If her spelling is the main problem then I can live with that. |
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Edited by
Pansytilly
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Sun 03/29/15 11:49 PM
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my ex, used to give me letters and cards while he was still courting me... i have to say, a good penmanship, proper grammar and spelling goes a long way...
i'm not saying it's a deal-maker or a deal-breaker (unless, it's about business)... but i'll have to admit that things like these...properly done and conveyed... can practically be an art form... and a definite plus in a person... |
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What people seem to be overlooking is that the reason spelling and grammar are important is because communication is one of the main keys to a relationship. If someone contacts you and you can't understand what they are trying to say, you won't have that level of communication with that person. Because of all the complexities of the English language, no one will ever have perfect grammar, but to be completely incomprehensible is a deal breaker.
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What people seem to be overlooking is that the reason spelling and grammar are important is because communication is one of the main keys to a relationship. If someone contacts you and you can't understand what they are trying to say, you won't have that level of communication with that person. Because of all the complexities of the English language, no one will ever have perfect grammar, but to be completely incomprehensible is a deal breaker. seems subjective...true, things can get lost in translation, as each language has its own nuances and complexities.. but even couples from different countries and languages have been known to make it work... some things are more powerful than words. even people who speak the same language often misunderstand each other, intentionally or not...it's mostly a matter of the meeting of the minds... |
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What people seem to be overlooking is that the reason spelling and grammar are important is because communication is one of the main keys to a relationship. If someone contacts you and you can't understand what they are trying to say, you won't have that level of communication with that person. Because of all the complexities of the English language, no one will ever have perfect grammar, but to be completely incomprehensible is a deal breaker. seems subjective...true, things can get lost in translation, as each language has its own nuances and complexities.. but even couples from different countries and languages have been known to make it work... some things are more powerful than words. even people who speak the same language often misunderstand each other, intentionally or not...it's mostly a matter of the meeting of the minds... That's true, but that first impression is key. If I'm getting text shorthand, street slang, or what otherwise appears to be no attempt to form actual sentences, I'm not interested. I make every attempt to communicate clearly and I expect the same in return. If there is no effort, there is no chance. |
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^ How do you spell uptight? Is that one word or two? 
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What people seem to be overlooking is that the reason spelling and grammar are important is because communication is one of the main keys to a relationship. If someone contacts you and you can't understand what they are trying to say, you won't have that level of communication with that person. Because of all the complexities of the English language, no one will ever have perfect grammar, but to be completely incomprehensible is a deal breaker. seems subjective...true, things can get lost in translation, as each language has its own nuances and complexities.. but even couples from different countries and languages have been known to make it work... some things are more powerful than words. even people who speak the same language often misunderstand each other, intentionally or not...it's mostly a matter of the meeting of the minds... That's true, but that first impression is key. If I'm getting text shorthand, street slang, or what otherwise appears to be no attempt to form actual sentences, I'm not interested. I make every attempt to communicate clearly and I expect the same in return. If there is no effort, there is no chance. wat hapns f i wer in a hurry? lyk an emergency txt?? n spelchek kips messing up the msg??? 
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Excuse me, my last post got cut off. Did No1phD write that for his thesis? |
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Heil Webster!!
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Personally if I can understand what the gist of the message is I am fine with it. Since I am educated and semi retired and have no secretary to make me look good on paper anymore. My dyslexia comes out occassionally and commas heck I still will put them anywhere. Run on sentences well that is another story...
I have known some pretty smart articulate people in my day that when it came to the written word they sucked... As someone stated communication is an important key to relationships it is and yet; IMO the written word, is the least of communication skills a person needs to have. |
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sitka the only problem i see with that is this medium relies solely on the written word. so while i can accept some wiggle room, if it's unintelligible in my in box or on her profile, then i will probably pass
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sitka the only problem i see with that is this medium relies solely on the written word. so while i can accept some wiggle room, if it's unintelligible in my in box or on her profile, then i will probably pass I will agree to a point.I know if I am on my phone.. I have sent some pretty interesting messages that auto correct decided to send. Or I am in a huge hurry I will not punctuate correctly... I guess for me and I can only state for me. If I can understand them and they spark my interest I usually will engage... If it gets to the point I start feeling like I am studying instead of playing then I will poilitely bow out... |
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Edited by
2469nascar
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Mon 03/30/15 03:45 PM
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There simply does not exist a better speller than myself. Having said that, I hold no one to those impossible standards. If they manage to communicate the thought, I am good with it. Exactly! Well said. I am not looking for a spelling bee champ I am looking for someone sweet, and nice. If her spelling is the main problem then I can live with that. |
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yes sitka after the fact. especially the better you know some one, you're right, and i'm as guilty as the rest. initially though with no common background i disagree. you need to take the time to be understood and gain that common background. which is where this thread is targeted from what i read in op's first post
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fi thye can'te speel vary weel and cliamimg to be form the US, i just se thim as a scameer....
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i haight mispelings. i whoant reed aye mesag unles evere wurd iz speled corect.
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I find commas rather interesting...
E.g. Let's eat Grandma. Let's eat, Grandma. |
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I just read in Reader's Digest of a tecaher who fell in love with a man she had met here in Hawaii and later married, although he cannot spell, he is kind and caring and fun. At first the spelling stuff bothered her too and I used to make fun of letters I got from bad spellers who could nto even get my name right!
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