My ladyfriend that was like a mom to me had a saying, "why buy the cow if you can milk it for free?"
Not saying gals are cows, but seems like when a man gets what he wants he can song and dance away from committment, I know many guys like that who say that is what they want, and the long trem is basically however long they decide it is. Courtship and nurturing has been proven more fullfilling for people in the long run. I can relate as most guys I ever dated were mad they could not get in bed with me even if they gave me a flower from the side of the road or a cupcake they thought a woman owed them one.
Yes, lost of us have needs and are looking for that one who can fullfill us and make us feel special as well as fill our lives and bed. Sorry for anyone's loss and heartache.

I think its crap.
If holding out for a ring is the only reason to hold out, methinks
all are better off without. Who wants to be loved just for the sex?

I believe that ploy is the beginning of disaster.

So, conversely, you'd buy the pig just to get a little sausage?

Well I dunno, that would be like putting all your eggs in one basket and then counting the chickens before they hatch.

That is a good one. for sure. True, many relationships fail becacause people do not mean the vows they promise or keep them.

No one should ever owe anyone anything! Nor should someone expect "security", from a physical moment of enjoyment! That is what is wrong with relationships! Many seem to think it is an exchange system, instead of enjoying the moment, there always seems to be a requirement for a reward system, which in reality, turns the situation into "the oldest profession" scenario!

Pre-meditated bargaining, will never get you what you want! Live life for the enjoyment of it, and don't make demands and you won't be disappointed when you give away a "little milk"!

Hopefully, it is not a situation where you received no pleasure out of the physical encounter, and if it is why would you want to be sold as a preverbal "cow" to begin with?

True, when a man thinks with his anatomy and not his mind, and vice versa, I know of alot of vows said that were never meant, but thankfully some happy people still that give me hope for the gentleness they show is real and beyond any night romance. a lot of heartache comes from giving one's innnermost self to someone hoping the words they say are true. If they care enough to stand by the person, is better than dancing around the issue or pressuring a gal to give intimacy. It comes down to what does he want and what does she want? Are they both fullfilling eachother? My friend's wife died and he always called her that even though people did not and badmouthed her, he was heartbroken whern she passed and we all got a collection for her funeral who could help.
I pray all here find the person who fullfills their destiny and makes them happy.

If anyone does marry it should be for the right reasons, not emotional blackmail? It's a guys and a woman's right to turn round and say to themselves ' Nah, this ain't for me!' and just walk away from a relationship. Tough if you don't like it, that's just life!

I have always wondered why some Humans are afraid of marriage.

Meh... Who wants to marry a cow?

All I know is I would not marry anyone before I found out if we were compatible in bed as well....

I think that now that I'm older but I thought the same thing when I was younger... that is not a area me and the ex had issues in...

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Is that like putting all your eggs in one Bastard?

If you truly loved someone to ask for marriage would be inconciquetial! If you don't feel you can love someone to the point of marriage, then you're not fully commited, nor will you ever be, IMHO !

Someone that is just interested in sex will find it, whether its with you or someone else. Focus on who he is and what he is all about before having sex and it will usually work out.