I am just going to throw this out there. I have been on a couple of dates where the 2 subjects I prefer not to talk about have been brought up. Politics and Religion, am I wrong in thinking that those 2 subjects are better left to a date other than a first date? I really do not have a problem with the subjects in general but it has been my experience that everyone has an opinion on the subjects and no 2 opinions are usually the same. Needless to say the dates ended ubruptly when I gave a very generalized opinion on religion, not so much an opinion but just answering questions.

I agree those 2 subjects should be left for another time, unless both feel comfortable enough to talk about them. Really depends on the individuals involved.

I don't know, I don't think those topics are taboo but I think it depends on the people. I can discuss both of them, either in general or in depth, offer an opinion, get an opinion but I think my thing is, I don't have to be right. I just find it interesting to see what other people think. I think where it might get heated or uncomfortable is where one or both parties think they are "right" and everyone else must agree with them or else.

I agree....unless you really know the person they are not good topics to discuss. I would rather know the person better before possibly banging heads because of a difference of opinion. There are so many other topics that you can carry on a conversation with...

i think topics of sex and past relationships are taboo on first dates as well

Jack...

You mean to tell me that men don't want to talk about sex on the first dates? I don't know about that, actually I do know about that...that's all they want to talk about. HELP me God...

Well I would say that some light flirting is always good on a first date. But I think everyone on a first date at one point men and women think about sex. maybe not equally but to some extent. Everyone looks at the other person across the table and as they get to know more about them size them up if they would consider having sex with them. Honestly I would be happy with a hug and a kiss on the cheek at the end of the date..

i dont know about men i can just tell you what i like to talk about i know in the forums i flirt alot thats all it is flirting fun, real life is way differant id reather hear how her day was or what makes her tick her passions (art,movies,singing) or we could just take a long evening drive up the coast enjoy the evening breeze

david...

Believe me when I say this....this is in NO way insulting. You are clearly NOT from NY. A kiss on the cheek....more like down your throat. I'm sorry....men from NY are like no other....

It really is pitiful if you think about it.

cover your mouth first then puff

Jack...

Believe me, the next date I'm on...I'll have to remember that

Puffins, I am not from NY but I guess for me it is the romantic side of things. Even just a soft kiss on the lips.. you know the one where your lips softly press against eachothers and then as you gently press them together you get butterflies. Yeah ok I am a romantic. All guys should be Romantics at heart. With a little tenderness and compassion and Leaving her at the door with that tender kiss and NO TONGUE. And as you give her hug you whisper in her ear "Thank you (insert her name here) I had a wonderful time, I will talk to you soon."

david...

I can honestly say that has NEVER happened to me. It does sound sweet though. You must be a true romantic, it shows.

I get offended when someone talks to me about religion esp if they tell me my beliefs are wrong. Politics...I don't talk about all at!! So yes I think those are better to be left out on a first date...I am sure there are lots of other things to talk about.
If someone talked to me about sex on the first date...I would just get up and walk away. Obviously, that person is not my type at all. I will give someone a hug on a first date BUT never a kiss.

first dates are always a little awkward to start with, and I agree ex's and such are not needed until you really get to know this person. I see nothing wrong with the first kiss onthat date, tells me if there may be anything more to it. I'm a lover not a fighter so religion and politics have no place on that first date.

I guess it depends on the date...

I think that politics, religion are off limits. I don't want to start excluding on the first date and these are two subjects that will get a guy excluded from second dates. Extremely sexist, extremely pushy.

I try not to go out with those that are vastly different to begin with. If I am on a date with someone that may have "potential" and they are ultra conservative and extremely vocal; just means that there won't be a second date. I find it hard to hold my tongue and generally people talk about their politics & religion to convert others to their way of thinking and I am just not interested.

What's a date?

Jess I second that sentiment. I am not sure exactly what a date is. I have been married too long.. haha now what am I supposed to do?

Lee...

Honey...are there ANY men out by you...we need to FIX that fast...

Well Puff I am a few thousand miles away from Jess so I guess the option to familarize both of us with what dates are is out of the question.. Always in the wrong place at the wrong time.. haha