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we do , but for an unstable party having a bomb, or driving a car, or using a gun,,,,there wouldn't be the easily preventable deaths but we cant incarcerate bombs, cars, or guns so that's why the world regulates who can have bombs(and what types) and the us regulates who can DRIVE a vehicle (and standards for vehicles available to drive) and, well, should follow suit with who should have guns |
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we do , but for an unstable party having a bomb, or driving a car, or using a gun,,,,there wouldn't be the easily preventable deaths but we cant incarcerate bombs, cars, or guns so that's why the world regulates who can have bombs(and what types) and the us regulates who can DRIVE a vehicle (and standards for vehicles available to drive) and, well, should follow suit with who should have guns you really ought to read up on Rights and Privileges! The 2nd is a Right,and the Article specifically states that it ought not to be infringed on,which mean,The Body Public it to keep its grubby Fingers away! There is no such Amendment on driving a Car in the Constitution,only on the Right to bear Arms! And it is inherent in the Individual,NOT granted by Government! "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes this right. Georgia Court Decision Nunn vs. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846) We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. Ayn Rand (1905-1982) The Nature of Government are you going to enable them? The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power. Texas Court Decision Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)] |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 08/04/14 03:53 AM
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Edited by
metalwing
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Mon 08/04/14 06:20 AM
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Tue 08/05/14 01:35 AM
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you really need to look up what well-regulated really means in an 18th century context! As a textual matter, the Second Amendment does speak of the idea of a well regulated militia, phrasing which seems to at least concede the idea that the government could assert the authority to assert some conditions upon gun ownership by individual citizens. Wrong. The term well-regulated, in the lexicon of the late 1700s, meant functioning properly, functioning as expected, not the dictionary definition we have today. Today, the term means “tightly controlled, and is at odds with the shall not be infringed phrase found in the amendment. So no, textually the Second Amendment does NOT allow government to place conditions on gun ownership, as the Second Amendment is WITHOUT conditions in it's explicit prohibition. and no obfuscation by anyone will change that! |
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so, the founding fathers thought it necessary to point out that something needed to be 'properly functioning',,,,
lol got it, |
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so, the founding fathers thought it necessary to point out that something needed to be 'properly functioning',,,, lol got it, you still don't understand! But that's OK,doesn't really matter! |
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I agree
it doesn't matter, founding fathers had NO GRASP of how far we would take 'weapons',,,,, and the 'well regulated' meaning 'properly functioning' makes no sense to me unless the founding fathers thought someone might think they were referring to something that didn't function properly,,, there was no right to a 'properly functioning' assembly...lol,,wonder why Id be all for anyone having weapons which actually took some time and effort to operate, load, reload,,,etc,, |
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I agree it doesn't matter, founding fathers had NO GRASP of how far we would take 'weapons',,,,, and the 'well regulated' meaning 'properly functioning' makes no sense to me unless the founding fathers thought someone might think they were referring to something that didn't function properly,,, there was no right to a 'properly functioning' assembly...lol,,wonder why Id be all for anyone having weapons which actually took some time and effort to operate, load, reload,,,etc,, the Founding Father didn't bestow that Right,they merely affirmed a Natural Right possessed by the Individual,so your argument is somewhat moot! |
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the only 'natural' right is to live or die,,,everything else involves cooperation, agreement, manufacturing, or sharing with others,,,
so the whole topic is 'moot',,,,, back to the pictures,,,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 08/05/14 02:08 AM
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