Topic: Post your political pictures here
LUNG1954's photo
Wed 08/06/14 11:38 PM


Israel's offensive in Gaza has 'killed more children than fighters', say human rights groups
Israel has been accused of waging ''war on the children'' of Gaza after it emerged that over a quarter of the dead are under 18

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Thu 08/07/14 06:35 AM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 08/07/14 06:38 AM


Israel's offensive in Gaza has 'killed more children than fighters', say human rights groups
Israel has been accused of waging ''war on the children'' of Gaza after it emerged that over a quarter of the dead are under 18



Hamas is responsible for these deaths and many more. It is Hamas along with Iran that has brought these bombs upon the Palestinians.

Realize, Hamas is a terrorist threat to Israel and the Palestinians.

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/07/14 06:40 AM




well, if facebook and the tea party say so,,,,

but logically, adding up 2013 murders in those four cities:
Chicago 415
Detroit 332
dc 104
new Orleans 155

its doubtful that 1006 murders moves a country all the way from third place (which is also a doubtful statistic) to the middle of the list


(numbers for three cities from http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/murders-in-u-s-cities-again-at-record-lows/)


numbers for new Orleans from http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/7981256-123/new-orleans-murders-lowest-in

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Thu 08/07/14 08:00 AM











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Thu 08/07/14 09:43 AM





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Thu 08/07/14 11:45 AM






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Thu 08/07/14 06:08 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 08/07/14 06:08 PM







The answer to that comment is simple. In the second half the of sentence we the "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be INFRINGED".

When one reads the declaration of independence, and comments left by some of our founding fathers, one could reach an understanding that the purpose of the right was to allow people to protect themselves from local threats, allow people to protect the country from invasion, and to keep our governmental powers from sliding into a despotic mindset.

As I stated before, power corrupts. This is a fact, and this fact is completely timeless.

That being said...

I understand you standpoint of wanting some form of regulation. The request is not unreasonable. I believe, however, there is plenty on the books(in fact a little too much), it's just ill-enforced. New laws cannot change that.

I have jumped through many-a-hoop to obtain certain types of firearms so I am not avidly against such a process. But when you make these processes a requirement for nearly every type of firearm, it is no longer worth it. Waiting several months, multiple fingerprinting, asking the local police chief permission, dishing out hundreds or thousands in extra fees, eventually makes things unobtainable for the "average joe". Notions to jack up taxes on ammunition, only allow a certain amount be purchased, or even owned at one time, is just ludicrous as proficiency is a responsibility of firearm owners. It takes a lot of ammo to remain proficient.

The push for further regulation may have received a much larger backing if the proposals didn't include what was mentioned above, plus bans on guns that look "scary" (things like flash hiders, heat shields, various forms of ergonomically correct accessories), magazine sizes, etc. Those doing the pushing displayed no knowledge of firearms in the first place.

I, for one, am glad the people pushed back as hard as they did, as the initial demand for more gun control was a complete Knee-jerk reaction of which there was given no actual thought. Everything was based on emotion, and thus was met with another emotional response.

TBRich's photo
Thu 08/07/14 06:22 PM
A guy in Florida just shot someone 10 times in the back and fled the scene; no charges against him due to the Stand Your Ground law

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Thu 08/07/14 06:49 PM

TBRich's photo
Thu 08/07/14 06:53 PM
Standard and Poor's latest report on income inequality shows that it is at the point of damaging the GNP and economy

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Thu 08/07/14 07:38 PM

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Thu 08/07/14 07:52 PM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 08/07/14 07:53 PM
A guy in Florida just shot someone 10 times in the back and fled the scene; no charges against him due to the Stand Your Ground law


Standard and Poor's latest report on income inequality shows that it is at the point of damaging the GNP and economy


political pictures?
what

metalwing's photo
Fri 08/08/14 12:04 AM





well, if facebook and the tea party say so,,,,

but logically, adding up 2013 murders in those four cities:
Chicago 415
Detroit 332
dc 104
new Orleans 155

its doubtful that 1006 murders moves a country all the way from third place (which is also a doubtful statistic) to the middle of the list


(numbers for three cities from http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/murders-in-u-s-cities-again-at-record-lows/)


numbers for new Orleans from http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/7981256-123/new-orleans-murders-lowest-in


Your "logic" has has historically been a poor substitute for math. However, look at how much of the murder rate involves blacks.

"Nationwide, the black homicide victimization rate in 2011 was 17.51 per 100,000. The overall national homicide victimization rate was 4.44 per 100,000, and among white Americans, the homicide victimization rate was 2.64 per 100,000."

If you compare those numbers to European's statistics, you see where lies the problem.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/08/14 01:10 AM

A guy in Florida just shot someone 10 times in the back and fled the scene; no charges against him due to the Stand Your Ground law

can you give us a Link on that,more than just a Hearsay?

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/08/14 03:38 AM





and who wants that?...lol

if wanting people to be able to EAT, is the same as wanting them to have 'equal amounts',,,then, I guess...what

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/08/14 03:55 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/08/14 04:22 AM






well, if facebook and the tea party say so,,,,

but logically, adding up 2013 murders in those four cities:
Chicago 415
Detroit 332
dc 104
new Orleans 155

its doubtful that 1006 murders moves a country all the way from third place (which is also a doubtful statistic) to the middle of the list


(numbers for three cities from http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/murders-in-u-s-cities-again-at-record-lows/)


numbers for new Orleans from http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/7981256-123/new-orleans-murders-lowest-in


Your "logic" has has historically been a poor substitute for math. However, look at how much of the murder rate involves blacks.

"Nationwide, the black homicide victimization rate in 2011 was 17.51 per 100,000. The overall national homicide victimization rate was 4.44 per 100,000, and among white Americans, the homicide victimization rate was 2.64 per 100,000."

If you compare those numbers to European's statistics, you see where lies the problem.



wow, talking about STRETCHING,,,lol,,,,

take away the population of whites in america and compare the victimization rate to other european countries...lol

does that tell you the underlying problem?....of course not,,,whoa

btw, america isnt a european country, though it is a western country, its on the continent of N. America,,,

want to know another underlying
differences between european countries and america? GUN OWNERSHIP,,lol



88.8 per 100 in USA compare to,,45.7 per 100 in Switzerland or 45.3 per 100 in Finland, 31.6 in Sweden, 31.3 in Norway,
http://www.deseretnews.com/top/2519/5/France-15-nations-with-the-highest-gun-ownership.html


also, there are a list of countries like uruguay, lithuania, russia,greenland, costa rica,,,etc,,

with much smaller percentages of 'blacks' with higher national victimizatoin rates,, so the logic fails on many levels,,,



msharmony's photo
Fri 08/08/14 04:48 AM







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Fri 08/08/14 05:32 AM


A guy in Florida just shot someone 10 times in the back and fled the scene; no charges against him due to the Stand Your Ground law

can you give us a Link on that,more than just a Hearsay?


I think he was just trying to hijack the thread. spock

TBRich's photo
Fri 08/08/14 05:51 AM



A guy in Florida just shot someone 10 times in the back and fled the scene; no charges against him due to the Stand Your Ground law

can you give us a Link on that,more than just a Hearsay?


I think he was just trying to hijack the thread. spock


No, I just don't know how to post pictures

metalwing's photo
Fri 08/08/14 05:53 AM







well, if facebook and the tea party say so,,,,

but logically, adding up 2013 murders in those four cities:
Chicago 415
Detroit 332
dc 104
new Orleans 155

its doubtful that 1006 murders moves a country all the way from third place (which is also a doubtful statistic) to the middle of the list


(numbers for three cities from http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/murders-in-u-s-cities-again-at-record-lows/)


numbers for new Orleans from http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/neworleansnews/7981256-123/new-orleans-murders-lowest-in


Your "logic" has has historically been a poor substitute for math. However, look at how much of the murder rate involves blacks.

"Nationwide, the black homicide victimization rate in 2011 was 17.51 per 100,000. The overall national homicide victimization rate was 4.44 per 100,000, and among white Americans, the homicide victimization rate was 2.64 per 100,000."

If you compare those numbers to European's statistics, you see where lies the problem.



wow, talking about STRETCHING,,,lol,,,,

take away the population of whites in america and compare the victimization rate to other european countries...lol

does that tell you the underlying problem?....of course not,,,whoa

btw, america isnt a european country, though it is a western country, its on the continent of N. America,,,

want to know another underlying
differences between european countries and america? GUN OWNERSHIP,,lol



88.8 per 100 in USA compare to,,45.7 per 100 in Switzerland or 45.3 per 100 in Finland, 31.6 in Sweden, 31.3 in Norway,
http://www.deseretnews.com/top/2519/5/France-15-nations-with-the-highest-gun-ownership.html


also, there are a list of countries like uruguay, lithuania, russia,greenland, costa rica,,,etc,,

with much smaller percentages of 'blacks' with higher national victimizatoin rates,, so the logic fails on many levels,,,





Nice dodge. The topic of that image was "Politics and Murder". I was pointing out the correlation between Blacks and murder and how that changes the overall percentages as compared to European countries which are otherwise the most similar to the US. Your tangent was so far off as to me meaningless. Blacks disproportionately raise the murder rate of the whole country. That is the FACT. Instead of responding to the topic, you pull the usual straw man dodge.

Can you discuss the black murder rate problem in the US?