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Topic: Workers win raises, lose jobs.
Dodo_David's photo
Wed 01/15/14 03:49 PM
Here is an excerpt from a New York Times story titled "After Winning a Raise, 175 Casino Workers in Queens Lose Their Jobs".
On Monday, about 175 employees of the buffet restaurant in the slot-machine and electronic gambling casino in Ozone Park learned that the restaurant had been closed and that their jobs no longer existed. The casino had plaudits when, in late October, a labor arbitrator issued a ruling that doubled the average pay of workers.


Be careful about what you wish for ...

sybariticguy's photo
Wed 01/15/14 04:21 PM
Doubling of wages? The illusion of entry level workers is a variation of entitlement- whereby everyone believes he/she is entitled to more wages regardless of consequences or value of work being done.

willing2's photo
Wed 01/15/14 04:43 PM
What can happen when ya play double or nothing.

motowndowntown's photo
Wed 01/15/14 04:48 PM

Doubling of wages? The illusion of entry level workers is a variation of entitlement- whereby everyone believes he/she is entitled to more wages regardless of consequences or value of work being done.


Let me hear you say that when you are working for minimum wage at Mickey Ds cause there are no other jobs available.

willing2's photo
Wed 01/15/14 04:59 PM
Won't have to.

Wailfer pays reeeeal good.

Just ask thems what chooses not to work.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/15/14 05:17 PM
welfare doesn't pay more than minimum wage either


willing2's photo
Wed 01/15/14 05:29 PM
Food Stamps, section 8, Medicaid, energy discounts is way above minimum wage.

Then, there are those who work under the table and/or deal drugs, hook,etc.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/15/14 05:37 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 01/15/14 05:39 PM

Food Stamps, section 8, Medicaid, energy discounts is way above minimum wage.

Then, there are those who work under the table and/or deal drugs, hook,etc.


all these things are available for those who are working minimum wage, as well, so the analogy just doesn't really work,,,,

they are 'income' based, not 'work' based,,,




msharmony's photo
Wed 01/15/14 05:41 PM

Here is an excerpt from a New York Times story titled "After Winning a Raise, 175 Casino Workers in Queens Lose Their Jobs".
On Monday, about 175 employees of the buffet restaurant in the slot-machine and electronic gambling casino in Ozone Park learned that the restaurant had been closed and that their jobs no longer existed. The casino had plaudits when, in late October, a labor arbitrator issued a ruling that doubled the average pay of workers.


Be careful about what you wish for ...


the same article seems to imply the buffet was losing money and that is why it closed other eating establishments have remained open under the same raise

so, if you work for a company that's losing money, start looking elsewhere instead of expecting a raise, and look faster if they give raises ,,,,,,


willing2's photo
Wed 01/15/14 06:15 PM
I imagine, when all the ado was going on about raises the employees were aware of the restaurants predicament.

Greed screwed em all.

Now,they get to own their outcome.

Speaking of owning, I came across this bit of wisdom.

'Grown has the word OWN in it. When ur GROWN. U pay ur OWN bills. Have ur OWN crib, OWN car, u make ur OWN money. U take care of ur kids on ur OWN & U mind ur OWN business. When u've established these things consider urself GROWN... OWN it and GROW up!!

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/15/14 06:25 PM

I imagine, when all the ado was going on about raises the employees were aware of the restaurants predicament.

Greed screwed em all.

Now,they get to own their outcome.

Speaking of owning, I came across this bit of wisdom.

'Grown has the word OWN in it. When ur GROWN. U pay ur OWN bills. Have ur OWN crib, OWN car, u make ur OWN money. U take care of ur kids on ur OWN & U mind ur OWN business. When u've established these things consider urself GROWN... OWN it and GROW up!!


that makes for a lot of ungrown people if we leave out those who dot MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS alone,,,lol

not to mention disabled who cant make their 'own' money, or adults in relationships where they are being supported FINANCIALLY By their partners 'own' money


before womens lib, most women who were married were still not 'grown'

laugh laugh

willing2's photo
Wed 01/15/14 08:18 PM


I imagine, when all the ado was going on about raises the employees were aware of the restaurants predicament.

Greed screwed em all.

Now,they get to own their outcome.

Speaking of owning, I came across this bit of wisdom.

'Grown has the word OWN in it. When ur GROWN. U pay ur OWN bills. Have ur OWN crib, OWN car, u make ur OWN money. U take care of ur kids on ur OWN & U mind ur OWN business. When u've established these things consider urself GROWN... OWN it and GROW up!!


that makes for a lot of ungrown people if we leave out those who dot MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS alone,,,lol

not to mention disabled who cant make their 'own' money, or adults in relationships where they are being supported FINANCIALLY By their partners 'own' money


before womens lib, most women who were married were still not 'grown'

laugh laugh

Mature adults know the difference between those who cannot and the capable but lazy.


msharmony's photo
Wed 01/15/14 08:47 PM



I imagine, when all the ado was going on about raises the employees were aware of the restaurants predicament.

Greed screwed em all.

Now,they get to own their outcome.

Speaking of owning, I came across this bit of wisdom.

'Grown has the word OWN in it. When ur GROWN. U pay ur OWN bills. Have ur OWN crib, OWN car, u make ur OWN money. U take care of ur kids on ur OWN & U mind ur OWN business. When u've established these things consider urself GROWN... OWN it and GROW up!!


that makes for a lot of ungrown people if we leave out those who dot MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS alone,,,lol

not to mention disabled who cant make their 'own' money, or adults in relationships where they are being supported FINANCIALLY By their partners 'own' money


before womens lib, most women who were married were still not 'grown'

laugh laugh

Mature adults know the difference between those who cannot and the capable but lazy.




I agree, they also realize that

laziness is not determined by economic situation ,,,,,

lazy people exist on all socio economic levels

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 01/16/14 09:39 AM
People who request large increases in minimum wage fail to realize the money must initially, and continually come from somewhere. Cause, and effect.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 01/16/14 10:23 AM

Here is an excerpt from a New York Times story titled "After Winning a Raise, 175 Casino Workers in Queens Lose Their Jobs".
On Monday, about 175 employees of the buffet restaurant in the slot-machine and electronic gambling casino in Ozone Park learned that the restaurant had been closed and that their jobs no longer existed. The casino had plaudits when, in late October, a labor arbitrator issued a ruling that doubled the average pay of workers.


Be careful about what you wish for ...


as the Church Lady on SNL used to say:"Well,ain't that special"!laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 01/16/14 12:40 PM


Here is an excerpt from a New York Times story titled "After Winning a Raise, 175 Casino Workers in Queens Lose Their Jobs".
On Monday, about 175 employees of the buffet restaurant in the slot-machine and electronic gambling casino in Ozone Park learned that the restaurant had been closed and that their jobs no longer existed. The casino had plaudits when, in late October, a labor arbitrator issued a ruling that doubled the average pay of workers.


Be careful about what you wish for ...


as the Church Lady on SNL used to say:"Well,ain't that special"!laugh



Conrad_73's photo
Thu 01/16/14 01:02 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 01/16/14 01:03 PM



Here is an excerpt from a New York Times story titled "After Winning a Raise, 175 Casino Workers in Queens Lose Their Jobs".
On Monday, about 175 employees of the buffet restaurant in the slot-machine and electronic gambling casino in Ozone Park learned that the restaurant had been closed and that their jobs no longer existed. The casino had plaudits when, in late October, a labor arbitrator issued a ruling that doubled the average pay of workers.


Be careful about what you wish for ...


as the Church Lady on SNL used to say:"Well,ain't that special"!laugh
:laughing:


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

no photo
Sat 01/18/14 05:28 AM


Doubling of wages? The illusion of entry level workers is a variation of entitlement- whereby everyone believes he/she is entitled to more wages regardless of consequences or value of work being done.


Let me hear you say that when you are working for minimum wage at Mickey Ds cause there are no other jobs available.


Then don't work there, others are just happy to have something.

no photo
Sat 01/18/14 09:45 AM
It's the American way.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/18/14 10:16 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/18/14 10:16 AM

It's the American way.


yep

employers can definitely dictate the wage that works for maximum profit

employees can do the same,,,,,

except that employees have employeea come to them at a rate of about 100 applicants per opening.....

making an average of about 99 other people seeking that other job you may seek when your pay isn't adequate,,,,


so yeah, just 'get a job',, or 'get a different job',,,,and hope your 1 percent chance pays off this time,,,lol

employees be grateful , WHATEVER They offer,

employers,, offer what works best for you.....

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