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Edited by
KiK2me
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion"
But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know 
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Sun 10/06/13 10:50 AM
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This is my own personal opinion, it all comes down to communication, a lot of men need to be asked to help around the house possibly because their female partner does not know how to communicate, a fatal mistake women continue doing is talking to a man as if we are a child or as if we are one of their female friends. remember ladies we are men. Talk too us and treat us like men and a lot more will be accomplished, you may not like hearing this, but it is the truth, have to appeal to the male ego in order have things run smoothly, women have been doing this for generations, but women today seem to have lost this, unlike in the past, oh also I think it depends if one spouse or partner works and the other stays at home, then the majority of household duties should be performed by the one that stays home. Women today seem to want that entitlement of having their cake and eating it too, remember men and women communicate differently, if you won't make the effort learning to communicate with your partner, then why are you in a relationship in the first place, but society seems to be more about devaluing a males role, so I guess were just not worth the effort to most women, just a paycheck and a baby maker. And it is still women in the majority that stay home to raise their families, which I understand it is their choice to do so, men should still help out even when the woman stays home, but I have noticed when the man is the major breadwinner women have a tendency to spoil them, you have to stop spoiling men, cause we'll expect it always, is just human nature, there are many good sources out there that teach us to communicate with one another. Just curious how many of you have tried couples therapy, sometimes an outside opinion can help. Your views are all from a man's point of view. I.e. it seems you feel women have to make an effort to understand men to enhance communication. What about the other way around? The female partner does not know how to communicate???? If you don't feel you get treated like a man, I think it's the man that needs to communicate. What does that mean, get treated like a man? So yes, I agree on the communication bit, but it's a two way street. Couples therapy, most men don't want to do that. They don't see the point, feel embarrassed to talk about 'issues' etc. You're referral to how things went for generations: do you also take into account that women were oppressed in those times? We didn't have a choice, weren't allowed to do this, that and the other. So sorry, but I find some of your statements anti-female, narrow minded and obsolete. Lawgiver posted a great clip on that somewhere. If I can find it, I'll post it here, for your pleasure Ah, there we have it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w |
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This is my own personal opinion, it all comes down to communication, a lot of men need to be asked to help around the house possibly because their female partner does not know how to communicate, a fatal mistake women continue doing is talking to a man as if we are a child or as if we are one of their female friends. remember ladies we are men. Talk too us and treat us like men and a lot more will be accomplished, you may not like hearing this, but it is the truth, have to appeal to the male ego in order have things run smoothly, women have been doing this for generations, but women today seem to have lost this, unlike in the past, oh also I think it depends if one spouse or partner works and the other stays at home, then the majority of household duties should be performed by the one that stays home. Women today seem to want that entitlement of having their cake and eating it too, remember men and women communicate differently, if you won't make the effort learning to communicate with your partner, then why are you in a relationship in the first place, but society seems to be more about devaluing a males role, so I guess were just not worth the effort to most women, just a paycheck and a baby maker. And it is still women in the majority that stay home to raise their families, which I understand it is their choice to do so, men should still help out even when the woman stays home, but I have noticed when the man is the major breadwinner women have a tendency to spoil them, you have to stop spoiling men, cause we'll expect it always, is just human nature, there are many good sources out there that teach us to communicate with one another. Just curious how many of you have tried couples therapy, sometimes an outside opinion can help.  Wait, that deserves another one and one of these too ...Tell me you're joking! Men need to be asked to help out around the house?!!...Why?....If both are working full time running the home is 50/50.....It goes WITHOUT saying!....If you want to be treated like a man, try acting like one...I don't think you have a clue how much work is involved in raising children and/or running a home...If I didn't communicate that clearly, let me know....I'll be happy to elaborate....
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
Where have you been all my life! I got the b(@)(@)bs, you do the rest. I think that would be a very sound arrangement 
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Its simple common sense anyway you can help your partner you do. Goes both ways.
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well it all depends on who you pick not anything to do with the male population at all.
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not all men, i am a cleaner, neat, but we tend to pick our opposites, like i cant judge all women because of a few that i picked. if you pick one lazy due you will continue to pick lazy guys
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Edited by
Candiapples
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Sun 10/06/13 04:15 PM
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This is my own personal opinion, it all comes down to communication, a lot of men need to be asked to help around the house possibly because their female partner does not know how to communicate, a fatal mistake women continue doing is talking to a man as if we are a child or as if we are one of their female friends. remember ladies we are men. Talk too us and treat us like men and a lot more will be accomplished, you may not like hearing this, but it is the truth, have to appeal to the male ego in order have things run smoothly, women have been doing this for generations, but women today seem to have lost this, unlike in the past, oh also I think it depends if one spouse or partner works and the other stays at home, then the majority of household duties should be performed by the one that stays home. Women today seem to want that entitlement of having their cake and eating it too, remember men and women communicate differently, if you won't make the effort learning to communicate with your partner, then why are you in a relationship in the first place, but society seems to be more about devaluing a males role, so I guess were just not worth the effort to most women, just a paycheck and a baby maker. And it is still women in the majority that stay home to raise their families, which I understand it is their choice to do so, men should still help out even when the woman stays home, but I have noticed when the man is the major breadwinner women have a tendency to spoil them, you have to stop spoiling men, cause we'll expect it always, is just human nature, there are many good sources out there that teach us to communicate with one another. Just curious how many of you have tried couples therapy, sometimes an outside opinion can help. Your views are all from a man's point of view. I.e. it seems you feel women have to make an effort to understand men to enhance communication. What about the other way around? The female partner does not know how to communicate???? If you don't feel you get treated like a man, I think it's the man that needs to communicate. What does that mean, get treated like a man? So yes, I agree on the communication bit, but it's a two way street. Couples therapy, most men don't want to do that. They don't see the point, feel embarrassed to talk about 'issues' etc. You're referral to how things went for generations: do you also take into account that women were oppressed in those times? We didn't have a choice, weren't allowed to do this, that and the other. So sorry, but I find some of your statements anti-female, narrow minded and obsolete. Lawgiver posted a great clip on that somewhere. If I can find it, I'll post it here, for your pleasure Ah, there we have it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w Most of the women replying here are from the same generation as myself. We were raised differently than the generaton of today. I was a stay at home mom who worked every once in awhile but my husband and I had an agreement that worked well for us..I took care of the house and children while he worked. It was very traditional. Ater the divorce, I went back to school and learned how to take care of myself financially. There wasn't much money from the divorce and no alimony [long story] and we had been together for 24 yrs and married for 17 I have lived a traitional life and live now as the modern woman. Most of the men I was with since my marriage do not pull their own weight and are very lazy. This new generation of women want it all. They feel a sense of entitlement..I am agreeing somewhat with the writer of this post. Example> My son has a gf who lays around all day ..yes they have ONE toddler she cares for but she seems to think thats all she needs to do. She won't clean [very rarely] and never cooks, so my son works all day and comes home and cooks for them all. I have had talks with him about this several times..shes not close to a barbie doll..shes overweight [alot] and does nothing but complain its all his fault and poor me, poor me [I so want to throttle her and put her out of her misery] My son told me that all the women his age are the same way and gave me worse examples of women he knows...OMG!! talk about pathetic There is nothing more annoying than living with someone who does't pull their own weight whether its a man or woman |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Sun 10/06/13 09:00 PM
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
I dug a trench in the military; so yep I can dig a ditch and storm proofing is child's play. I just installed a new storm door on my house a couple of days ago; tomorrow installing a new electric box for my outdoor light; then installing the light; after I removed my siding from the house and replaced it. I also installed new bathroom/kitchen plumbing, new kitchen/bathroom cabinets, cleaned my gutters, built fences, built decks w/stairs, installed laminate flooring, did drywall repairs, painting, and installed all new lighting inside as well as outside the house. I also picked up a 100 pound punching bag and took it to my basement. I will have you know that I have met quite a few men can't do household repairs or fix cars, and lots don't even know how to use a power tool. If I had to repair my roof; I would do it myself. Welcome to 2013 where women can do more than housework. And I agree with MSHARMONY; most guys don't pull their weight. I don't even ask a man to help whether its housework or household repairs; its just easier and less painful than trying to get a man's help. |
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This is my own personal opinion, it all comes down to communication, a lot of men need to be asked to help around the house possibly because their female partner does not know how to communicate, a fatal mistake women continue doing is talking to a man as if we are a child or as if we are one of their female friends. remember ladies we are men. Talk too us and treat us like men and a lot more will be accomplished, you may not like hearing this, but it is the truth, have to appeal to the male ego in order have things run smoothly, women have been doing this for generations, but women today seem to have lost this, unlike in the past, oh also I think it depends if one spouse or partner works and the other stays at home, then the majority of household duties should be performed by the one that stays home. Women today seem to want that entitlement of having their cake and eating it too, remember men and women communicate differently, if you won't make the effort learning to communicate with your partner, then why are you in a relationship in the first place, but society seems to be more about devaluing a males role, so I guess were just not worth the effort to most women, just a paycheck and a baby maker. And it is still women in the majority that stay home to raise their families, which I understand it is their choice to do so, men should still help out even when the woman stays home, but I have noticed when the man is the major breadwinner women have a tendency to spoil them, you have to stop spoiling men, cause we'll expect it always, is just human nature, there are many good sources out there that teach us to communicate with one another. Just curious how many of you have tried couples therapy, sometimes an outside opinion can help. Wait, that deserves another one and one of these too ...Tell me you're joking! Men need to be asked to help out around the house?!!...Why?....If both are working full time running the home is 50/50.....It goes WITHOUT saying!....If you want to be treated like a man, try acting like one...I don't think you have a clue how much work is involved in raising children and/or running a home...If I didn't communicate that clearly, let me know....I'll be happy to elaborate....
Well put. 
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Dint u sleep reading it??
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Edited by
dcastelmissy
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Sun 10/06/13 09:16 PM
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
I dug a trench in the military; so yep I can dig a ditch and storm proofing is child's play. I just installed a new storm door on my house a couple of days ago; tomorrow installing a new electric box for my outdoor light; then installing the light; after I removed my siding from the house and replaced it. I also installed new bathroom/kitchen plumbing, new kitchen/bathroom cabinets, cleaned my gutters, built fences, built decks w/stairs, installed laminate flooring, did drywall repairs, painting, and installed all new lighting inside as well as outside the house. I also picked up a 100 pound punching bag and took it to my basement. I will have you know that I have met quite a few men can't do household repairs or fix cars, and lots don't even know how to use a power tool. If I had to repair my roof; I would do it myself. Welcome to 2013 where women can do more than housework. And I agree with MSHARMONY; most guys don't pull their weight. I don't even ask a man to help whether its housework or household repairs; its just easier and less painful than trying to get a man's help. I have raised three wonderful children without the emotional or financial support of a man. True I have not dug a trench, but almost everything else, including installing a hot water heater, providing all that I could for the welfare of my children and myself, without asking for a dime from anyone else. I would have loved a "man's" support, but unfortunately it wasn't there. My children deserved to have a father, he failed the task, but I made sure they had both in me IN EVERY FACET OF THEIR LIVES!!!! However, I hold no grudges or ill wishes for him or anyone else. The saying is true "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I have certainly learned that this is an entirely true statement. The strongest parent completes the task of mother and father if needed! In my particular case it was me, the female! Some women however fail the task, which is extremely sad. There are exceptions to every case! Now tell me the truth, did you REALLY think no women would chime in on this???? Come on, REALLY? |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Sun 10/06/13 09:34 PM
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
I dug a trench in the military; so yep I can dig a ditch and storm proofing is child's play. I just installed a new storm door on my house a couple of days ago; tomorrow installing a new electric box for my outdoor light; then installing the light; after I removed my siding from the house and replaced it. I also installed new bathroom/kitchen plumbing, new kitchen/bathroom cabinets, cleaned my gutters, built fences, built decks w/stairs, installed laminate flooring, did drywall repairs, painting, and installed all new lighting inside as well as outside the house. I also picked up a 100 pound punching bag and took it to my basement. I will have you know that I have met quite a few men can't do household repairs or fix cars, and lots don't even know how to use a power tool. If I had to repair my roof; I would do it myself. Welcome to 2013 where women can do more than housework. And I agree with MSHARMONY; most guys don't pull their weight. I don't even ask a man to help whether its housework or household repairs; its just easier and less painful than trying to get a man's help. I have raised three wonderful children without the emotional or financial support of a man. True I have not dug a trench, but almost everything else, including installing a hot water heater, providing all that I could for the welfare of my children and myself, without asking for a dime from anyone else. I would have loved a "man's" support, but unfortunately it wasn't there. My children deserved to have a father, he failed the task, but I made sure they had both in me IN EVERY FACET OF THEIR LIVES!!!! However, I hold no grudges or ill wishes for him or anyone else. The saying is true "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I have certainly learned that this is an entirely true statement. The strongest parent completes the task of mother and father if needed! In my particular case it was me, the female! Some women however fail the task, which is extremely sad. There are exceptions to every case! Now tell me the truth, did you REALLY think no women would chime in on this???? Come on, REALLY? Some men can be so silly. 
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
I dug a trench in the military; so yep I can dig a ditch and storm proofing is child's play. I just installed a new storm door on my house a couple of days ago; tomorrow installing a new electric box for my outdoor light; then installing the light; after I removed my siding from the house and replaced it. I also installed new bathroom/kitchen plumbing, new kitchen/bathroom cabinets, cleaned my gutters, built fences, built decks w/stairs, installed laminate flooring, did drywall repairs, painting, and installed all new lighting inside as well as outside the house. I also picked up a 100 pound punching bag and took it to my basement. I will have you know that I have met quite a few men can't do household repairs or fix cars, and lots don't even know how to use a power tool. If I had to repair my roof; I would do it myself. Welcome to 2013 where women can do more than housework. And I agree with MSHARMONY; most guys don't pull their weight. I don't even ask a man to help whether its housework or household repairs; its just easier and less painful than trying to get a man's help. I have raised three wonderful children without the emotional or financial support of a man. True I have not dug a trench, but almost everything else, including installing a hot water heater, providing all that I could for the welfare of my children and myself, without asking for a dime from anyone else. I would have loved a "man's" support, but unfortunately it wasn't there. My children deserved to have a father, he failed the task, but I made sure they had both in me IN EVERY FACET OF THEIR LIVES!!!! However, I hold no grudges or ill wishes for him or anyone else. The saying is true "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I have certainly learned that this is an entirely true statement. The strongest parent completes the task of mother and father if needed! In my particular case it was me, the female! Some women however fail the task, which is extremely sad. There are exceptions to every case! Now tell me the truth, did you REALLY think no women would chime in on this???? Come on, REALLY? Hahaha...What some guys won't do for a little attention ....Short story...Once upon a time I owned an electric hot water heater ...It stopped working .....In the winter ....I went to Lowe's to price a new one, including installation ...I couldn't afford it ...But it was winter and cold showers were.........cold! ...A salesman approached me and asked me what type of hot water heater I needed and I quipped, "A free one" ...He asked me if mine was electric and I said yes and he said it's probably just a bad heating element, they cost about ten bucks and are easy to replace...I bought two elements and a "cute" little tool and repaired my hot water heater ALL BY MYSELF Shame on you Kik!!
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I broke a nail.
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Hire a housekeeper, problem solved..
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My friend hired a housekeeper, six months later he married her....
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I fell asleep at... "Just thought I would ask everyone's opinion" But i would like to see the lady who gets on the roof and repairs it Or installs the new hot water heater or maybe digs the ditch for the new cable fiber optics line to be buried in... Storm windows ,Weather proofing.... But yeah i do dishes and run the vacuum cleaner as well as scrub the tub mop floors and etc.... my messes too you know
I dug a trench in the military; so yep I can dig a ditch and storm proofing is child's play. I just installed a new storm door on my house a couple of days ago; tomorrow installing a new electric box for my outdoor light; then installing the light; after I removed my siding from the house and replaced it. I also installed new bathroom/kitchen plumbing, new kitchen/bathroom cabinets, cleaned my gutters, built fences, built decks w/stairs, installed laminate flooring, did drywall repairs, painting, and installed all new lighting inside as well as outside the house. I also picked up a 100 pound punching bag and took it to my basement. I will have you know that I have met quite a few men can't do household repairs or fix cars, and lots don't even know how to use a power tool. If I had to repair my roof; I would do it myself. Welcome to 2013 where women can do more than housework. And I agree with MSHARMONY; most guys don't pull their weight. I don't even ask a man to help whether its housework or household repairs; its just easier and less painful than trying to get a man's help. I have raised three wonderful children without the emotional or financial support of a man. True I have not dug a trench, but almost everything else, including installing a hot water heater, providing all that I could for the welfare of my children and myself, without asking for a dime from anyone else. I would have loved a "man's" support, but unfortunately it wasn't there. My children deserved to have a father, he failed the task, but I made sure they had both in me IN EVERY FACET OF THEIR LIVES!!!! However, I hold no grudges or ill wishes for him or anyone else. The saying is true "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I have certainly learned that this is an entirely true statement. The strongest parent completes the task of mother and father if needed! In my particular case it was me, the female! Some women however fail the task, which is extremely sad. There are exceptions to every case! Now tell me the truth, did you REALLY think no women would chime in on this???? Come on, REALLY? Hahaha...What some guys won't do for a little attention ....Short story...Once upon a time I owned an electric hot water heater ...It stopped working .....In the winter ....I went to Lowe's to price a new one, including installation ...I couldn't afford it ...But it was winter and cold showers were.........cold! ...A salesman approached me and asked me what type of hot water heater I needed and I quipped, "A free one" ...He asked me if mine was electric and I said yes and he said it's probably just a bad heating element, they cost about ten bucks and are easy to replace...I bought two elements and a "cute" little tool and repaired my hot water heater ALL BY MYSELF Shame on you Kik!!
Well there ya go... The "MAN" salesman showed you how You know I'm kidding 
Seriously? There are things I just can't stand doing around the house and I'm pretty sure this goes both ways with Men & women... My ex would chuck broken mops... discarded household items etc etc right out the back door onto the deck, cause she knew this would freak the chit outa me and I'd pick it up... She just couldn't be bothered, inside the house was pristine but the outside looked like Sanford & Sons till I got to it. It drove me batty at first because I thought it a lil lazy but after a few arguments I understood better and I had nothing to biatch about... the house was pristine. |
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I don't clean much ... maybe because I'm a pig. I clean toilets and the kitchen but no windows, few floors, and I do dishes.
However, I cook and do all maintenance. I also pay for everything. I think I do more than my share. |
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I don't clean much ... maybe because I'm a pig. I clean toilets and the kitchen but no windows, few floors, and I do dishes. However, I cook and do all maintenance. I also pay for everything. I think I do more than my share. Yes, but are you getting enough, ummm what was that word again???  POONTANG!!!
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