Topic: Murders come in all races
metalwing's photo
Sun 09/01/13 06:54 PM






According to the above U.S. statistics . . .

49.0% of murderers are white; 46.8% of murderers are black.

79.6% of the American population is white; 12.9% is black.

79.6% of the population is responsible for 49.0% of murders.

12.9% of the population is responsible for 46.8% of murders.




a small percentage of the 12.9 percent

and the 79.6 percent are responsible for 92.8 percent of murders,,,


Well let's see.... either the world's worst at math.
Liberal spin where the truth doesn't matter.
Or A blatant untruth in the hopes that no one will notice.

Or maybe just wishful thinking?laugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 02:18 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 09/02/13 02:19 AM
so ya think,, ALL 12 percent and ALL the 79.6 percent commit the crimes

let me help,,in 2010 there were 223,553,265 white folks and 38,929,319 black folks

2009 violent crimes by white folks were 3249 .and 3106 black folks

that means , LITERALLY , about 3.2 out of every 223,553 whites were violent

3.1 out of every 38929 blacks were violent

..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group

willing2's photo
Mon 09/02/13 06:09 AM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 09/02/13 06:11 AM
The op used outdated info, having nada to do with ethnic murders.

MH, FYI, there are many more than two ethnic groups.

300 shades of gray.

Your stats don't represent them all.
Not a valid argument.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:09 PM
which argument? that all races commit murder?

or that only a small , percent of any race is committing murder?

I didn't post stats, just math

and the stats are current enough (2010, they only do census every 10 years) to be more relevant than any other available stats

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:11 PM


..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


That is not what you said before.


Anyway, I will rephrase what I said earlier in order to clarify.

79.6% of the American population produces 49.0% of murderers.

Another 12.9% of the American population produces 46.8% of murderers.

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:36 PM



..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


That is not what you said before.


Anyway, I will rephrase what I said earlier in order to clarify.

79.6% of the American population produces 49.0% of murderers.

Another 12.9% of the American population produces 46.8% of murderers.



true,,, that 12.9 also 'produce'

twice the rate of unemployment as their white counterparts
5 percent of the wealth of their white counterparts
twice the likelihood of INEXPERIENCED TEACHERS teaching them



I think a better educated and employed (gainfully, not just for scraps employment that is),,,,population will be one with less crime

just my opinion

no photo
Mon 09/02/13 02:21 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Mon 09/02/13 02:35 PM

Your stats aren't reflecting what ethnic group or race commits more crime.

Where is the (logic) in your argument?


First off, it is not an argument. Facts in Op show that murders happen all over US and no races are mentioned in areas. Most of what is on this forum are Opinions and arguments with no Facts or logic!

willing2's photo
Mon 09/02/13 03:32 PM

Most of what is on this forum are Opinions and arguments with no Facts or logic!

Can you provide a link to back up that claim?:wink: laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 09/02/13 04:05 PM


Most of what is on this forum are Opinions and arguments with no Facts or logic!

Can you provide a link to back up that claim?:wink: laugh


Hey! That is my line. :angry: :tongue:

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 09/02/13 04:07 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Mon 09/02/13 04:07 PM




..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


That is not what you said before.


Anyway, I will rephrase what I said earlier in order to clarify.

79.6% of the American population produces 49.0% of murderers.

Another 12.9% of the American population produces 46.8% of murderers.



true,,, that 12.9 also 'produce'

twice the rate of unemployment as their white counterparts
5 percent of the wealth of their white counterparts
twice the likelihood of INEXPERIENCED TEACHERS teaching them



I think a better educated and employed (gainfully, not just for scraps employment that is),,,,population will be one with less crime

just my opinion


I am simply providing statistics about the topic of this thread, stats that are not in the OP.

willing2's photo
Mon 09/02/13 06:16 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 09/02/13 06:17 PM
I just couldn't help myself! :wink:

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 06:38 PM





..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


That is not what you said before.


Anyway, I will rephrase what I said earlier in order to clarify.

79.6% of the American population produces 49.0% of murderers.

Another 12.9% of the American population produces 46.8% of murderers.



true,,, that 12.9 also 'produce'

twice the rate of unemployment as their white counterparts
5 percent of the wealth of their white counterparts
twice the likelihood of INEXPERIENCED TEACHERS teaching them



I think a better educated and employed (gainfully, not just for scraps employment that is),,,,population will be one with less crime

just my opinion


I am simply providing statistics about the topic of this thread, stats that are not in the OP.


me too

metalwing's photo
Tue 09/03/13 06:24 AM

so ya think,, ALL 12 percent and ALL the 79.6 percent commit the crimes

let me help,,in 2010 there were 223,553,265 white folks and 38,929,319 black folks

2009 violent crimes by white folks were 3249 .and 3106 black folks

that means , LITERALLY , about 3.2 out of every 223,553 whites were violent

3.1 out of every 38929 blacks were violent

..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


Math certainly isn't your strong suit. Are you trying to print false information to make Blacks look better or do you really not have a clue how to do math? Trying to say that Blacks commit violent crime at almost the same rate as whites is simply a gross lie by any standard.

If you dig a little deeper (as you often suggest) you will see that young blacks (5% of the population) commit about half of all murders in the US.

I would show you how to do the math you falsely posted but it is so simple, I think you just did it that way on purpose.

If one group is committing crimes at 7 to 10 times the rate of the other and living in the same country, it is not a small percentage.

no photo
Tue 09/03/13 06:40 AM


Most of what is on this forum are Opinions and arguments with no Facts or logic!

Can you provide a link to back up that claim?:wink: laugh

That's my opinion, like most opinions on here.

metalwing's photo
Tue 09/03/13 07:07 AM



In 2010, the homicide rate for black male teens was 51.7 per 100,000, more than 22 times higher than the rate for white male teens (2.4 per 100,000). Rates for other groups were 17.9 per 100,000 for Hispanic males, 11.9 per 100,000 for American Indian males, and 3.2* per 100,000 for Asian and Pacific Islander males. (Figure 3)

Among females, black and Hispanic teens had the highest homicide rates in 2010, at 6.8 and 2.1 per 100,000, respectively, followed by 1.2 per 100,000 for white females, and less than one* per 100,000 for Asian and American Indian females. (Appendix 1)
- See more at: http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=teen-homicide-suicide-and-firearm-deaths#sthash.DMxcDTsz.dpuf


http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=teen-homicide-suicide-and-firearm-deaths

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:03 AM


so ya think,, ALL 12 percent and ALL the 79.6 percent commit the crimes

let me help,,in 2010 there were 223,553,265 white folks and 38,929,319 black folks

2009 violent crimes by white folks were 3249 .and 3106 black folks

that means , LITERALLY , about 3.2 out of every 223,553 whites were violent

3.1 out of every 38929 blacks were violent

..like I said, a VERY SMALL percent of either group


Math certainly isn't your strong suit. Are you trying to print false information to make Blacks look better or do you really not have a clue how to do math? Trying to say that Blacks commit violent crime at almost the same rate as whites is simply a gross lie by any standard.

If you dig a little deeper (as you often suggest) you will see that young blacks (5% of the population) commit about half of all murders in the US.

I would show you how to do the math you falsely posted but it is so simple, I think you just did it that way on purpose.

If one group is committing crimes at 7 to 10 times the rate of the other and living in the same country, it is not a small percentage.

nothing false about the numbers

no matter how its spun,, it is a small percentage of the population committing violent crime, in any race

that's not a large enough sample to represent the WHOLE Group,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:08 AM




In 2010, the homicide rate for black male teens was 51.7 per 100,000, more than 22 times higher than the rate for white male teens (2.4 per 100,000). Rates for other groups were 17.9 per 100,000 for Hispanic males, 11.9 per 100,000 for American Indian males, and 3.2* per 100,000 for Asian and Pacific Islander males. (Figure 3)

Among females, black and Hispanic teens had the highest homicide rates in 2010, at 6.8 and 2.1 per 100,000, respectively, followed by 1.2 per 100,000 for white females, and less than one* per 100,000 for Asian and American Indian females. (Appendix 1)
- See more at: http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=teen-homicide-suicide-and-firearm-deaths#sthash.DMxcDTsz.dpuf


http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=teen-homicide-suicide-and-firearm-deaths


not even 1 percent of the teenage population commits crimes,,

again, not enough of a sample for logic to define the whole group,,,because, it means atleast 99 PERCENT of said group are NOT committing crimes

willing2's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:08 AM
That must mean the economy is great and ebahbudy happy.

No more need to tho out the minority victim card.

willing2's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:11 AM
Wonder what the numbers would look like if Barry's drone murders were mixed in the equation?

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:18 AM
whoa