I wanted to start a discourse. I just recently finished a BBC documentary called "License to Kill" about young drivers who have made fatal and permanent mistakes, some even leading to the death of another person due to wreckless mistakes in driving (Speeding, racing, just plain out irresponsible road decisions).

Since this is based in the U.K. primarily, the laws there are a little funny in a different way. The answer that seems to crop up a lot is that we should ban or limit the driving of younger drivers, I don't feel that is the appropriate answer but education doesn't seem to have a place in such discussions.

Should we take away or teach? Educate or limit? This is a widespread question that was brought up watching the above program, it can cover anything really; from curfew to restrictions placed on people under a certain age for any reason whatsoever from driving to talking.

I don't think we should limit anything for the younger generation, we should keep everything available for them...Mistakes as well. I think mistakes are important, even the terrible ones, they allow logical pathfinding to a suitable future decision. However, if the future decision is already decided by a 3rd party I think it is highly detrimental. My biggest problem is that some mistakes are brushed aside while others are taken to the forefront...Do you really believe that Zimmerman was the first adult to shoot and kill a child under the age of 18?

It is insanity then to place such focus on isolated cases whilst ignoring the ongoing issues that are faced in certain communities, I find it largely irresponsible that instead of focusing local the focus is always national and at times even international. A problem cannot be fixed with more and more opinions on it, much less we can't take away anything from said opinions, afterall they are just opinions and only there to consider...This is how a problem becomes too big too fast, inserting numerous opinions from both credible and incredible people is hardly going to solve the primary issue; in order to solve a problem you have to consolidate the facts and logically eliminate options until you are left with few or one.

Discuss, if you wish...Or ignore, if you must.

As long as I can remember, focus has always been put on isolated cases.It is sad what the world has become, for us, as well as the younger generation.
Jmo

No, I do not think, he was the first.

Regarding young drivers..in Canada, kids can get a license to drive before they are legal to drink..some laws make no sense

As for cells and texting while driving, you cannot stop stupidity

Put their tails behind bars, and those drivers will straighten up.

These days, an elderly driver on the road is just as dangerous as a teenage driver.

In most countries you are eligible for a driver's license before you can drink...I think that makes sense, give them credible experience and allow them to respect the power they have before letting them loose in the bar seems pretty reasonable to me.

And I agree with 2Kids, it is sad...And progress cannot be had by it, in my opinion.

They should learn how to drink before driving. I think being peofessionally taught how to drive helps and yes the elderly can be very dangerous on the road. It took alot o convincing to get my dad off it

in Quebec.. the laws changed a while ago that you now have to be 18 to start the acquisition of a drivers license.. the costs total about $2000 once all is said and done.. they first have to study a fairly large book on the 'laws of the road' and go to classes, then take the written test.. once that's done they get a learners permit which they have for 1 year and can only drive during certain periods of the day AND ONLY with a fully licensed driver at their side.. after the year is up they have to go and take their driving test alone (IN a car) with a government agent.. if they pass that test they get a drivers license but with limitations for another year(less points and less tolerance by authorities).. however IF after all that is said and done and they don't loose any points.. they become a full licensed driver that can drive solo..

I know there are many who don't always follow the rules.. but personally I feel the current method our government is implementing is beneficial for all, and curbs a lot of would-be accidents and stupidity.. as we have (in my area at least) a very large presence of patrol cars..

also.. they recently implemented another law wherein seniors (of a certain age) must take annual drivers test to validate their license for the following year..

personally, I think that's a good thing.. however.. they should also(if they haven't already) implement special tests for immigrants moving to our respective country/province.. some of them really don't know how to drive round here..

Far as driving, a statistical trend could support a ban/limit recommendation.

Just popping in....but can't blame kids n drinking...I know a lot of adults that can't handle what they drink..and drive..just saying.

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HOW CANADIAN!!

"they should learn how to drink before driving"

SON! you'll sit right down in that chair and you
won't be going out of this house, not even to
go to school or see your crapy friends until you
can properly LERN TO DRINK, DAMIT.
and don't G__ dam answer me back, you will do as I g__ dam
say, not as I g__ dam do! "yes dad"

Bahahaha....I almost peed laughing so hard...

I know ....I know.....but IDC...

I think drinking and driving should carry far more severe penalty
For Adults and especially for children !
Driving a car is like wielding a loaded gun...
Texting and driving should also carry far more severe penalties
for everyone
Don't punish the kids punish the stupidity of the individuals
In my opinion...

Good plan..

So true

Regarding young (or any age) drivers in Mexico (at least at the city), law doesn't make sense either here. We can get a license before even knowing a thing about driving. We just need to go to do the paperwork, pay the fee and voala! We have our license. We don't take a test at all. In the case of minors, they just need some agreement letter from their parents and they can easily get their permission.

Way before it was mandatory to take an official course and acredit the test, but now they don't care about that. Nowadays the schools that offer that type of courses ask you for you driving license to let you take the course, to me it's way ilogical to do that, but it is how it is.

Cop asks the Canadian kid why he's driving drunk.

Kid states he's too drunk to walk.

Recidivism.

Relapsing into previous behaviors. that will always be.

More often than not though it is a conditioned response due to environment (Prison, jail, juvenile, etc.)...It is a very real problem if the only thing you know when you get out of prison, is prison.