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Topic: Sex before marriage...
TBRich's photo
Tue 06/18/13 07:24 PM



Masturbation is a very serious sin as well. hold that thought.


The Bible says nothing about masturbation.


I agree.

Catholics like to cite the Onan story as the basis for this. I find it to be a real stretch.

I have read Christian authors though who say that while the act of masturbation itself is not a sin, the thoughts that inevitably go along with it are.


Apparently spilling your seed on the ground is the sin

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Tue 06/18/13 07:41 PM




Masturbation is a very serious sin as well. hold that thought.


The Bible says nothing about masturbation.


I agree.

Catholics like to cite the Onan story as the basis for this. I find it to be a real stretch.

I have read Christian authors though who say that while the act of masturbation itself is not a sin, the thoughts that inevitably go along with it are.


Apparently spilling your seed on the ground is the sin


Uh, try reading the actual story in the book of Genesis.

According to the ancient Levirate marriage laws, Onan was legally required to produce an offspring with his dead brother's widow, who hadn't given birth before becoming a widow. Thus, Onan was legally required to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.

According to the story in Genesis, Onan pretended to fulfill the law by having sexual intercourse with his widowed sister-in-law, but just as he was about to ejaculate, Onan pulled out of his sister-in-law in order to prevent his semen from entering her. In short, Onan practiced birth control at a time when he wasn't permitted to do so.

The sin of Onan was his refusal to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law as required by Levirate marriage laws.


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Tue 06/18/13 08:56 PM
Should always try before you buy

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Tue 06/18/13 08:56 PM
I love a good story as much as the next person but have the good sense to know the difference between a story and reality. you really should stop believing in fairy tales once you grow up.
and if you haven't masturbated then I implore you to stop what you're doing, find a bathroom and get cracking! for your own sake. you can thank me later :)

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Tue 06/18/13 09:02 PM

I love a good story as much as the next person but have the good sense to know the difference between a story and reality. you really should stop believing in fairy tales once you grow up.
and if you haven't masturbated then I implore you to stop what you're doing, find a bathroom and get cracking! for your own sake. you can thank me later :)



laugh laugh laugh

One of the reasons I asked this question is that I have heard Christians preach right and wrong and preach about what "sin" is and quite frankly, I don't believe most of them practice what they preach.


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Tue 06/18/13 09:09 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 06/18/13 09:14 PM
guylooking35


Should always try before you buy


That "try before you buy" mentality is why I don't believe in marriage.

Many men think they are "buying" you and that they "own" you, even if they just sleep with you one time. Sometimes, if you date them only once, and you don't even have to have sex with them, they think they own you and feel they have put their brand on you.

Mind you, not all men do this, but I have seen it happen a lot.

When a woman gets married, or gives her heart and soul to a man he will often lose all respect for her. When a man does this, he does not deserve her.

Having said that, I can't say I believe you should wait until marriage to have sex. You do need to find out if you are sexually compatible.

But you are not "buying" anyone. Unless you are, and its just about money and sex for you.






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Tue 06/18/13 09:30 PM

guylooking35


Should always try before you buy


That "try before you buy" mentality is why I don't believe in marriage.

Many men think they are "buying" you and that they "own" you, even if they just sleep with you one time. Sometimes, if you date them only once, and you don't even have to have sex with them, they think they own you and feel they have put their brand on you.

Mind you, not all men do this, but I have seen it happen a lot.

When a woman gets married, or gives her heart and soul to a man he will often lose all respect for her. When a man does this, he does not deserve her.

Having said that, I can't say I believe you should wait until marriage to have sex. You do need to find out if you are sexually compatible.

But you are not "buying" anyone. Unless you are, and its just about money and sex for you.







All clowning aside...When a man does this? I lose respect if I give my heart and soul to her, or I don't deserve her.flowerforyou <token of esteem

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Tue 06/18/13 10:12 PM
The way I understand it, Christians are supposed to be "forgiven." Which means that if you take your sins to god, the will be washed away. So, that being the case, as long as your repent then their is no consequence to pre-marital sex. So you might as well get the sex in before marriage, because from what I hear, there isn't any after.

laugh

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Tue 06/18/13 10:14 PM

The way I understand it, Christians are supposed to be "forgiven." Which means that if you take your sins to god, the will be washed away. So, that being the case, as long as your repent then their is no consequence to pre-marital sex. So you might as well get the sex in before marriage, because from what I hear, there isn't any after.

laugh


Since you posted a laughing head I'm going to assume you are being sarcastic.

If you "repent" a sin, you don't continue to keep doing it. Neither do you plan to sin and then repent to make it okay.


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Tue 06/18/13 10:27 PM
hey guyes ,one news in india that sex before marriage is also counted as married either he do ceremonies or not but sex before marrige is act of marriage will be counted this is latest news and first time court says this legaly.......

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Tue 06/18/13 11:39 PM
Edited by William8 on Tue 06/18/13 11:43 PM



I have never been married but have been in sexual relationships with women whome I loved but could not afford to marry


How much does it cost to get married?


Thousands of dollars, the ring alone cost that much. I dated a Pentecostal for a while and she wanted a ring that cost $3000 a big reception and fancy church.
All that cost money you know. I just wanted to go to the registry office.

If God wants me to have sex in marriage HE has to give me a women who is not so materialistic.

If God wants me to do something He has to give me the opportunity.

If not then I can't.

So I believe that we can only do what opportunity affords.

I would love to get married and all that but since I have not the opportunity, I must settle for the next best thing, a sexual relationship with one woman and if there are no women available for that then the next best thing is the brothel.

The burden is on God to give all men equal opportunity.

If I have the means to get married but do not, then that's a sin.

If I have a women and visit a brothel that's a sin.

Know what I mean.

What I am supposed to be a 43 year old virgin because I cannot get married?

If God wants me to get married then he can just give me a woman that will marry me.

Would you marry a guy who is poor, who earns a meager wage?

What because I am poor I am not allowed to have sex?

How's that fair.

I may be poor by the worlds standards but I still need a woman just like every other man.

I would only regret not having sex, if I was a 43 year old virgin.

I have been without sex for seven months, how much longer am I suppose to wait?

I will just go to a brothel if God does not give me another opportunity for a sexual relationship.

Of the two evils you choose the lesser right!

God made sex and I have done the best I can in that regards within my opportunity range.

I only ever wanted to be with one women but some women are fruit cakes.

It takes two baby!

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Wed 06/19/13 04:25 AM
If you are christian then it is a sin . if you are Hindu.every sin is forgiven

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Wed 06/19/13 04:25 AM
If you are christian then it is a sin . if you are Hindu.every sin is forgiven

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Wed 06/19/13 04:59 AM





If you are a Christian and you have sex before marriage, it is a sin against your own body. If you are not a Christian then you are already living in sin.


I doubt those who aren't christian are going to consider it living in sin.


That is not surprising because they have not gave their hearts to Jesus. Believers believe the word of God and try to follow God's commands.


So it's just yours (and other religious peoples') opinions that they're living in sin. Why worry about them, though?


The OP of this thread specifically addresses Christians.


That's fine, but I was responding to a post in the thread that was addressing people who weren't christians.

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Wed 06/19/13 05:20 AM


The OP of this thread specifically addresses Christians.


That's fine, but I was responding to a post in the thread that was addressing people who weren't christians.


Well, that particular post is out of place in this thread.

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Wed 06/19/13 05:26 AM



The OP of this thread specifically addresses Christians.


That's fine, but I was responding to a post in the thread that was addressing people who weren't christians.


Well, that particular post is out of place in this thread.


Are you the thread monitor today?

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Wed 06/19/13 05:27 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 06/19/13 05:29 AM
Heck,hasn't anyone read the SMALL PRINT on the Marriage Certificate?


PERMIT TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH PERSON MENTIONED IN AFORESAID PERMIT


























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Wed 06/19/13 05:50 AM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Wed 06/19/13 05:51 AM

The way I understand it, Christians are supposed to be "forgiven." Which means that if you take your sins to god, the will be washed away. So, that being the case, as long as your repent then their is no consequence to pre-marital sex. So you might as well get the sex in before marriage, because from what I hear, there isn't any after.

laugh


My ex had plenty of sex after marriage. Just not with me. slaphead


Ruth34611's photo
Wed 06/19/13 05:52 AM





Masturbation is a very serious sin as well. hold that thought.


The Bible says nothing about masturbation.


I agree.

Catholics like to cite the Onan story as the basis for this. I find it to be a real stretch.

I have read Christian authors though who say that while the act of masturbation itself is not a sin, the thoughts that inevitably go along with it are.


Apparently spilling your seed on the ground is the sin


Uh, try reading the actual story in the book of Genesis.

According to the ancient Levirate marriage laws, Onan was legally required to produce an offspring with his dead brother's widow, who hadn't given birth before becoming a widow. Thus, Onan was legally required to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.

According to the story in Genesis, Onan pretended to fulfill the law by having sexual intercourse with his widowed sister-in-law, but just as he was about to ejaculate, Onan pulled out of his sister-in-law in order to prevent his semen from entering her. In short, Onan practiced birth control at a time when he wasn't permitted to do so.

The sin of Onan was his refusal to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law as required by Levirate marriage laws.




That's how I always understood it. Onan's sin was disobedience.

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Wed 06/19/13 06:00 AM





Masturbation is a very serious sin as well. hold that thought.


The Bible says nothing about masturbation.


I agree.

Catholics like to cite the Onan story as the basis for this. I find it to be a real stretch.

I have read Christian authors though who say that while the act of masturbation itself is not a sin, the thoughts that inevitably go along with it are.


Apparently spilling your seed on the ground is the sin


Uh, try reading the actual story in the book of Genesis.

According to the ancient Levirate marriage laws, Onan was legally required to produce an offspring with his dead brother's widow, who hadn't given birth before becoming a widow. Thus, Onan was legally required to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law.

According to the story in Genesis, Onan pretended to fulfill the law by having sexual intercourse with his widowed sister-in-law, but just as he was about to ejaculate, Onan pulled out of his sister-in-law in order to prevent his semen from entering her. In short, Onan practiced birth control at a time when he wasn't permitted to do so.

The sin of Onan was his refusal to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law as required by Levirate marriage laws.




Can you explain why this makes masturbation a sin?

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