honestly that kind of religious zealotry - irrespective of the faith- is going to be a big turn off. I want a man who thinks for himself not letting ANY religion dictate to him

and being from nigeria is also not good

whatcha got for junk in ur trunk there motown???

there is a difference between a good man and a nice guy.
A nice guy who dotes on a woman will usually turn her off because her basic instincts lead her to seek a protector. Someone who will watch her vulnerable back in this cruel world. Bad guys come across as much more capable in that regard.
Also what will you provide for the children or the home to meet her needs? Are you going to be polite and get walked on by everyone or are you going to bring home the bacon?
These thing make the bad boys seem more capable but less willing so she does what she can to make him more willing. make sense?

You would be more attractive if you had a bit of an edge.

I kinda got tired of reading the "why do the nice guys good men always get the short end of the stick" threads. Or the "how do I keep from being friendzoned" ones. If a woman wants to be with you she will be with you for being yourself. If your not being yourself the relationship wont last anyway. In my experience most women know if they are attracted to you in the first few minutes talking to them. Whether through instinct personality or any other number of things. Its not that life is unfair its just the way things are. One other thing for you us to remember is if she isn't into you for who you are then she probably isn't right for you in the first. A wise man once said..."Waiting by a closed door while an open one beckons is both foolish and futile."

That was well put but his biggest pro men he needs to stay with women inside his own country and pull those lines on them along with his broken English

Could not have said it any better.......

ahhh, grasshopper we could go round and round trying to find the answer for that repetitive question,

Probably the same reason why men prefer biotches that treat them like crap instead of dating a decent lady. Who knows what goes on in people's minds?

My REAL friends know that my serious boyfriends have not been perfect but I tried. There are guys who present themselves as "good guys" but if you want anything from them, you have to be a complete biotch. Okay, the guy I broke up with most recently when I was sick two days in a row promised to come help me and did NOT. Found every excuse in the universe not to. AND I asked for a $1 diet Coke from Mc Donald's and he never brought it even though he said he would be over soon as was near Mc Donald's. Screw people like that. He tried to say what a nice guy he is. No he is not. My ex who has MS used to take me out to eat and treat me really well. He just lived to far away. I would have rather stayed with a good guy who had something wrong with him than Mr. I Won't Pick You Up a $1 diet Coke. Ya I know he would die in the not so distant future but 3 years with a good guy is better than an eternity with Mr. Does Not Care. And I have been having a really hard time lately and the only one who reached out to me was Dodo David who I have been friends with over a year and he has health problems of his own. We are not all looking for a perfect guy. We are not all looking for a billion dollars. But someone with basic consideration would be nice.

Basically I don't assume that everyone is going to like me or want me...I think we're better-off if we learn this lesson as kids. This way we won't have unrealistic expectations when we become adults. And expect everyone to go "ga-ga" over us.

I received an unsolicited message from a local guy saying I better not be a "liar or fraud like the others" and assuming I wanted to date him. WHATEVER. I told him that was a bad pick up line and then I blocked him. He was lighting something that looked like a joint in his picture. OBVIOUSLY did not read my profile AND that is ballsy to assume everybody is going to like you just because you are the opposite sex and nearby. What many guys don't get is the Chelsea Handler line that if you are woman and want to get laid, "Just show up and bring your vagina". That's a true-ism.

Basic consideration goes both ways. No one can truly control who they are attracted to. A lot of "Nice guys" will be patient and want to see if things develop naturally, as you get to know each other. If he is asking you out for drinks, then dinners and eventually away for the weekend, he is probably not looking to be just friends.

If he's not your type, have the consideration to tell him and not expect him to be there every time you need something. If he's interested and you're not he isn't going to meet someone else if you want him around as a friend all the time. And he definitely doesn't want to be the shoulder you use when the guy you are sleeping with treats you like crap.

Did you say I have a stink?

or maybe

time to fix that sink

or even

I sing like N Sync

I second that.

Nice guys like us finish last

Well said. Seems like these "nice guys" are the biggest whiners I have ever seen. What woman wants that in her life?