All I am reading here is you want YOUR agenda, YOUR morals, YOUR beliefs fostered onto the kids. You don't care about them being able to think for themselves, you'd rather do it for them. You cannot separate what you are suggesting from the idea that you want to teach them to judge homosexuals/lesbians as less than acceptable people based solely on whom they choose to share their lives with. You just cannot do it, it goes together.

The fact is, kids are GOING to be exposed to these differences as they grow up, and it's something they need to know about and understand so they can handle it. Yes risks should be taught just as much as risks should be taught for straight sex, but to outright instill them that these people are different or less worthy of respect in any way is crossing the line.

They may not be able to have kids like straight people can, but there is not one damn thing wrong with being with one another, I don't care what the Bible says about it, it is not relevant for discussion as it pertains to human rights and individuality. It needs to be kept out of discussions like this. Give the child all the information totally unbiased and let them decide from there, is that that hard??

its as brave as anyone 'coming out' about their sexuality, it takes bravery to risk the ridicule and controversy,,,

Not in front of a room of mostly zealous Christians.

And if a person came out about being gay in a room of mostly flaming gays... not much of a risk either.

IM not in the habit of assuming what religion or sexuality people hold in a room full of people,,,,

If the majority of the public were not some sort of Christian there would not be any fuss at all about not allowing public conducted prayer in schools.

Though hate may attack it, the Christian faith is built on a firm foundation.

Though hate may attack it, the Christian faith is built on a firm foundation.

which Foundation?
The Pauline one?

Paul did not lay the foundation.

The Lord God Almighty laid it; A Tried Stone/A Precious Cornerstone.

Paul did not lay the foundation.

The Lord God Almighty laid it; A Tried Stone/A Precious Cornerstone.

Do you give your children unbiased information?

Along with all else Have you told YOUR children
that God is possibly their Creator

and that the Bible may possibly be His Message to all men.

That salvation may be needed for a sin-sick world?

And that Jesus may be the Savior of mankind?

Along with other information...unbiasedly of course.



"and let them decide from there, is that that hard??"

The issue of not allowing ceremonial prayer to a particular religion or God in a government or public institution or gathering has NOTHING to do with "hate" of the Christian faith or any other faith.

To me a child should be introduced to such ideas ONLY when they are capable of understanding them. If I ever have kids, I will not brainwash them into religion otherwise. If they wish to go down that path later then fine, but I will not push one or another onto them. They should make their own choices.

this is why having children should require a license lol. you will instill in your children what you believe. if you speak english you will only teach them english. you will feed them what you eat, encourage behavior you tolerate, discourage behavior you don't. i guarantee i guarantee your views will change once you hold your son/daughter in your arms. you will want your child to excel in the world you live in, not the world you dream of

You don't know me dude, you can assume things but you can't know. After my experiences in religion, there's no damn way I will ever raise my child in that environment, not if I have anything to say about it. I will raise my child to THINK about they believe in, to ask questions, to make their own decisions. Of course I'll try to teach them decent morals, but I will encourage them to be responsible for themselves as all parents should do. I'm not gonna try and strong arm them like a lot of others might.

And if they decided to be religious later I may not agree with it but I'd accept them just the same, I wouldn't cast them out or judge them. I just would want them to know why they believe something, and what they do from that would be up to them.

I firmly believe parents sometimes need to control less, and listen more, empower more. You'd have better kids and better relationships then.

Don't pretend to be so ignorant. You know damn well most of the people at that graduation were indoctrinated Christians.

The guy did not actually break any rules and he recited a prayer to a room of mostly Christians.

It is a NON STORY AND A NON ISSUE.

If the majority of the public were not some sort of Christian there would not be any fuss at all about not allowing public conducted prayer in schools.

that is a fallacious logic along the lines that anyone opposing 'amoral' behavior or even calling behavior wrong is christian or religious,,,


the majority of americans arent gay, yet many more are becoming 'pro gay' in support of including gays in everything as a special protected class

why do people have to be Christian to see the value of applying freedom of expression equally to NON CHRISTIANS ( who may be gay and 'coming out') or CHRISTIANS ( who may decide to pray out in open)....?