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Topic: Brave Student Prays in Graduation Speech
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Fri 06/07/13 08:50 AM
Roy Costner IV, a former public school student from South Carolina, stunned the audience at his

high school graduation last weekend when he ripped up his previously-approved valedictorian speech going on, instead,

to speak about God — and then deliver the Lord's prayer. The act, which drew loud applause, was taken

in opposition to the School District of Pickens County's decision to axe prayers from graduation events, Christian News reports.

Officials said that they had recently received complaints from atheist activists and church-state separatists, leading to the removal of invocations from all school events.

But that didn't stop Costner.

The Liberty High School ceremony is already making its way into national headlines, as the valedictorian's actions

and the subsequent cheers this past Saturday were caught on video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p7w0bL3XuD4

PS
Fer the Libs; It's a very short movie. It might even fit in their attention space.laugh laugh laugh smokin

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 06/07/13 08:52 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/07/13 08:52 AM
Ive never understood why a valedictorian cannot speak from their own personal heart,, so long as they dont personally attack any person or groups,,,


but rules are rules,, so , I commend the young man for being willing to accept the potential consequences in taking this risk

we commend people for 'coming out' about their sexual preferences,, nice to see someone come on out for their moral preferences,,,,and not be condemned,,,

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Fri 06/07/13 06:27 PM



"Fight the good fight of faith..."



I Timothy 6:12

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Fri 06/07/13 07:41 PM
I don't care if someone prays, as long as they're not trying to force me to join in. But, what do you guys get from pushing your prayers on others? Why is it so important that you're able to pray in front of big groups of people like this? What do you lose out on when you make religion and prayer a personal thing, rather than trying to force others to accept it as well?

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Fri 06/07/13 10:15 PM

I don't care if someone prays, as long as they're not trying to force me to join in. But, what do you guys get from pushing your prayers on others? Why is it so important that you're able to pray in front of big groups of people like this? What do you lose out on when you make religion and prayer a personal thing, rather than trying to force others to accept it as well?


Bingo.

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/07/13 10:58 PM
its just a freedom of expression,, I suppose we dont loose anything more by choosing to keep it personal

but thank goodness it is as much our choice to do so as it is our choice to keep our sexual preference personal,,,,some may want to aknowledge their love of their spouse

or their love of their partner

and why not their love of God,,,?

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Sat 06/08/13 12:59 AM

I don't care if someone prays, as long as they're not trying to force me to join in. But, what do you guys get from pushing your prayers on others? Why is it so important that you're able to pray in front of big groups of people like this? What do you lose out on when you make religion and prayer a personal thing, rather than trying to force others to accept it as well?
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Sat 06/08/13 04:04 AM

its just a freedom of expression,, I suppose we dont loose anything more by choosing to keep it personal

but thank goodness it is as much our choice to do so as it is our choice to keep our sexual preference personal,,,,some may want to aknowledge their love of their spouse

or their love of their partner

and why not their love of God,,,?



Exactly!!!

:thumbsup:


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Sat 06/08/13 07:29 AM
Can someone please explain the need to be able to pray in public in front of others?

willing2's photo
Sat 06/08/13 07:40 AM
It's about enjoying one of the freedoms perverts and many progressives wish to take away.

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Sat 06/08/13 08:19 AM

It's about enjoying one of the freedoms perverts and many progressives wish to take away.


So it's about doing it so everyone can see because you believe others want to take that away?

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Sat 06/08/13 10:41 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Sat 06/08/13 10:59 AM

Can someone please explain the need to be able to pray in public in front of others?


We encourage others.
We are praying for and with one another, to our Creator.

In one accord,
we acknowledge that we stand in His Divine Presence.
We give Him the Glory and Honor that He is due.
We ask His Blessing & protection and wisdom for all our affairs.

We agree together by saying "Amen".

We often say... "In Jesus' Name, Amen".

We believe His death on the cross paid the penalty for our sin and gave us access to His Throne of Mercy & Grace.

He said that if we ask anything in His Name the Father will grant it.

Jesus said when two or more are gathered in His name He is there in the midst of us.

We remind one another of His encouraging Words...
That He will never leave us nor forsake us.


[[[Open prayer can be compared to a presidential innaugural address.
The prez declares what he can and will do for us.

After his address, those of the crowd agree or not...
but respect is given throughout the ceremony.

There is a round of applaud by many but not all
]]]


We stand before our Eternal, Heavenly King to recount His promises toward us as well.

Unbelievers may also be at the gathering.

Thus, all will not say "Amen".


msharmony's photo
Sat 06/08/13 11:25 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/08/13 11:26 AM

Can someone please explain the need to be able to pray in public in front of others?


already did, its an expression of love of God,,

just like publicly expressing love for anyone else

not a 'need', but a 'choice' all should have,,,

,, ceris put it quite beautifully,,,,

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Sat 06/08/13 11:45 AM
But how is this news story considered "brave?"

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Sat 06/08/13 11:50 AM
Edited by techknowlove on Sat 06/08/13 11:51 AM
just like publicly expressing love for anyone else


harmony: how is publicly expressing love for a human a NEED? There's TONS of individuals (including myself) who aren't afforded that opportunity. I don't see how it's a NEED....

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/08/13 11:56 AM

But how is this news story considered "brave?"


he was considered to be breaking the rules by not stickign to what was 'approved',,,he could have suffered consequences but took a risk anyway

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/08/13 11:57 AM

just like publicly expressing love for anyone else


harmony: how is publicly expressing love for a human a NEED? There's TONS of individuals (including myself) who aren't afforded that opportunity. I don't see how it's a NEED....



needs are water, shelter, food, and rest

there are no other true 'needs'

the question about why this is a 'need' is a loaded question , as it is not a need and the point is not being a need

its being a CHOICE


like, I dont NEED to sit at the front of the bus,, but I should be afforded the CHOICE To do so

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Sat 06/08/13 11:58 AM


Can someone please explain the need to be able to pray in public in front of others?


We encourage others.
We are praying for and with one another, to our Creator.

In one accord,
we acknowledge that we stand in His Divine Presence.
We give Him the Glory and Honor that He is due.
We ask His Blessing & protection and wisdom for all our affairs.

We agree together by saying "Amen".

We often say... "In Jesus' Name, Amen".

We believe His death on the cross paid the penalty for our sin and gave us access to His Throne of Mercy & Grace.

He said that if we ask anything in His Name the Father will grant it.

Jesus said when two or more are gathered in His name He is there in the midst of us.

We remind one another of His encouraging Words...
That He will never leave us nor forsake us.


[[[Open prayer can be compared to a presidential innaugural address.
The prez declares what he can and will do for us.

After his address, those of the crowd agree or not...
but respect is given throughout the ceremony.

There is a round of applaud by many but not all
]]]


We stand before our Eternal, Heavenly King to recount His promises toward us as well.

Unbelievers may also be at the gathering.

Thus, all will not say "Amen".




So, you're trying to encourage all to join you? Is that why you're doing it in public?

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/08/13 12:01 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/08/13 12:02 PM



Can someone please explain the need to be able to pray in public in front of others?


We encourage others.
We are praying for and with one another, to our Creator.

In one accord,
we acknowledge that we stand in His Divine Presence.
We give Him the Glory and Honor that He is due.
We ask His Blessing & protection and wisdom for all our affairs.

We agree together by saying "Amen".

We often say... "In Jesus' Name, Amen".

We believe His death on the cross paid the penalty for our sin and gave us access to His Throne of Mercy & Grace.

He said that if we ask anything in His Name the Father will grant it.

Jesus said when two or more are gathered in His name He is there in the midst of us.

We remind one another of His encouraging Words...
That He will never leave us nor forsake us.


[[[Open prayer can be compared to a presidential innaugural address.
The prez declares what he can and will do for us.

After his address, those of the crowd agree or not...
but respect is given throughout the ceremony.

There is a round of applaud by many but not all
]]]


We stand before our Eternal, Heavenly King to recount His promises toward us as well.

Unbelievers may also be at the gathering.

Thus, all will not say "Amen".




So, you're trying to encourage all to join you? Is that why you're doing it in public?




I dont think its trying to encourage, its just expressing something in common

like saying the pledge of allegiance,, or having a moment of silence for a recently deceased person, those who are likeminded wont need encouragement when they hear it,, they will just choose to join in,,,,

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