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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. in the past we had communities, security, safety, that we dont have today different times,, different needs, different resources,,,, In the past? Are you telling me you don't have a community? You don't have security or safety? And you want gun control? I don't know where all of you people live, but my town has a community. Yes we pay sales taxes, and property taxes and licence fees on our cars and we pay the state when we get caught driving with no seat belt. Income tax I don't want to pay. When I earn money I don't think the government has any right to take any of it. Nevada has no income tax. They get their money from gambling. Colorado has gambling in some cities, and lotto. We should not have to pay income tax. I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,, with all its faults, we still live in a pretty blessed country in terms of resources and lifestyles,, and that doesnt just protect itself, roads dont build themselves, teachers dont teach for free, police dont protect for free,, we dont have safety nets for the least amongst us for free,, and the list goes on an on income tax is the rent for living in america,,,in my opinion in nevada, yes, we have communities as far as people residing in the same area,, but in all reality,,,,there are maybe 100 homes around my community,, most all have working families, all of whom are full of the very kind of people who claim they want to be free to 'keep' all their income ,, and they dont want to spend it on people in 'need',, though they will spend it with businesses as far as gun control, I dont feel guns in everyones hands makes me more safe,, so thats not really part of my thought process regarding jobs,,,Im speaking more about 'job security',, or more accurately 'income security' tasks such as mowing lawns or cleaning homes take TIME and effort and an investment in materials,, they also take consumers who TRUST unlicensed strangers who are 'in need' to come into their well decorated homes,,,it takes a landscape where there are lawns,,, thats not happening where I live,, or where MANY folks live there are not really self tasks that are going to realistically pay anyones bills,,,, |
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And in Biblical times people hated the tax collector. Many people hated Jesus too. Many people hate the rain. Many people hate cold weather. People hate a lot of things. Does not make it unneccessary. We need tax reform. I did not say that all taxes are unnecessary. i agree with the first part...but the second i could argue about... |
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. Well, starting a business is a lot different than starting a hobby. Businesses require money and permits and red-tape and things of that nature. Legal ones anyways. The system is stacked by the wealthy against the common person. It's the iron law of oligarchy. But hobbies are good. If one can get into one that doesn't cost a lot of money. All I am hearing from you is BUT BUT BUT BUT.... 
The question is: What if there was no such thing as Jobs? NO JOBS ANYWHERE. People are going to do what they have to do to make a living. They are going to get into trading, hunting, planting, or some service or business.. etc. People are not going to sit around whining about no jobs when they need to do something to survive. Unfortunately some will turn to crime. Government is not going to be able to do much about it when people start businesses without the "proper permits and red tape." That is all about taxes. If there are no jobs, there can't really be any taxes. I don't get why you are so against taxes.. taxes are what made this country the greatest all around... there is no place in this world where you don't have to pay taxes, and they help keep our country great. so why the big issue with taxes? Because it's extortion? Because it's theft? The government tells us we have to do something to make a living, but why can they be bums and make their money off of us??? Double standard much? Taxes did not and do not make this country the best, if you really think that I suggest you take the rose colored glasses off and look around again. They just exist to keep the rich rich and the poor poor, hell 2 percent of the US controls over 90 percent of the wealth! How can a country be great if so much of its' people is either straddling the poverty line or far below it? When did this thing called "taxes" begin? How are roads and bridges built and schools and firestations and police paid for? btw. It is not extortion and it is not theft.... The hell it's not, forcing you to pay them money you EARNED against your will, is theft doesn't matter how you wanna justify it. They are nothing more than a glorified mafia, they act the same exact way. And if you think that money they get really goes to what they say, you're very naive. This country would NOT be in the shape its' in if it did. Ever wonder why they constantly say they're losing money? Constantly needing to raise our taxes higher? Where the hell is the money going? It's a nice thought that they give a damn about things and actually are honest about what they do with our money, but reality is they are just not. Notice they are not made to disclose how they spend, but we are? We can't get away with half the secrecy they do, why would that be? Things are not what they seem. you should find somewhere that makes you happy... it obviously isn't here... he has every right to be here with a protected freedom of conscience and freedom of speech to think and say as he pleases regardless of what you think of it dissension is what has made this country great. we are completely and disgustlingly overtaxed. gov't spending needs to halved by requirement - starting with salary and bennies and for that taxes that do remain we the tas payers need to be able to earmark how we want th money spent on the tax form with an independent auditor NOT the IRS - which is close to being abolished, I think - overseeing the process then the politicians can find real jobs and answer the OP  dissension made this country great?...ugh, i know your smarter than that...
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Jeanniebean
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I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,,
What??? That is the most ridiculous nonspiritual statement I have ever seen you post. Freedom is natural. Freedom is a right. I didn't even read the rest of your post. 
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i think everyone agrees the country has it's problems right now, even tho we all disagree what the actually are... personally, i do not think the countries problems are based on taxes... i think it all boils down to corrupt politicians and greed... things won't change unless we make a stand on what we believe the problems are... me, i'm voting against any incumbent that i can... we start getting people out of office, and the politicians will understand who works for who...
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We have elections to decide representation. Have had them for hundreds of years. I'm merely stating the realities and not parrotting cable news talking points and overly simplistic slogans. No, what you are doing is stating the obvious. Everyone knows we have elections to decide representation. elections which are fraudulent to begin with I might add...... |
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Kleisto
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Wed 06/05/13 02:36 PM
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. in the past we had communities, security, safety, that we dont have today different times,, different needs, different resources,,,, In the past? Are you telling me you don't have a community? You don't have security or safety? And you want gun control? I don't know where all of you people live, but my town has a community. Yes we pay sales taxes, and property taxes and licence fees on our cars and we pay the state when we get caught driving with no seat belt. Income tax I don't want to pay. When I earn money I don't think the government has any right to take any of it. Nevada has no income tax. They get their money from gambling. Colorado has gambling in some cities, and lotto. We should not have to pay income tax. I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,, with all its faults, we still live in a pretty blessed country in terms of resources and lifestyles,, and that doesnt just protect itself, roads dont build themselves, teachers dont teach for free, police dont protect for free,, we dont have safety nets for the least amongst us for free,, and the list goes on an on income tax is the rent for living in america,,,in my opinion in nevada, yes, we have communities as far as people residing in the same area,, but in all reality,,,,there are maybe 100 homes around my community,, most all have working families, all of whom are full of the very kind of people who claim they want to be free to 'keep' all their income ,, and they dont want to spend it on people in 'need',, though they will spend it with businesses as far as gun control, I dont feel guns in everyones hands makes me more safe,, so thats not really part of my thought process regarding jobs,,,Im speaking more about 'job security',, or more accurately 'income security' tasks such as mowing lawns or cleaning homes take TIME and effort and an investment in materials,, they also take consumers who TRUST unlicensed strangers who are 'in need' to come into their well decorated homes,,,it takes a landscape where there are lawns,,, thats not happening where I live,, or where MANY folks live there are not really self tasks that are going to realistically pay anyones bills,,,, I got a question for you, why do we OWE the state anything? why is there rent (which btw you don't own something truly if you have to pay to keep it, like say a house), why do we have bills? can you tell me that? I'll tell you exactly why......all these bills we owe, are nothing more than collateral for the debt of the state, it's really that simple. We ALL are in debt because they have made us to be so, that's the whole reason for paper money (we have no money of our own since they create it all), for birth certificates, for social security numbers, etc. We are just used to pay their bills. We should not owe anything to anyone except those we contract with of our own accord (and by contract I mean a legal one which gives us say so over its' terms, any other contract is not lawful even if the state says you have to sign it), that we do means we are born into debt and we are not free under that debt. Oh and I guess this answers the question posed about how would police be served, how would roads be built etc, without taxes. There are MANY other ways and means of exchange to get things done. Money as we know it isn't the only way, we have been conditioned to think it is, but it's not. We can survive without that means of exchange if we knew how and were taught how. But those in power don't want that, because if we knew that, their game would be over and their money pit would dry up, so they don't tell us. They need us a hell of a lot more than we need them and they know it. |
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... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc.
Those were jobs, but the demand for those jobs has diminished greatly. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs?
I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. Jeannie, I actually agree with you. When I was between jobs, I didn't just sit around and do nothing. I had no source of income, but I didn't become lazy. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. in the past we had communities, security, safety, that we dont have today different times,, different needs, different resources,,,, In the past? Are you telling me you don't have a community? You don't have security or safety? And you want gun control? I don't know where all of you people live, but my town has a community. Yes we pay sales taxes, and property taxes and licence fees on our cars and we pay the state when we get caught driving with no seat belt. Income tax I don't want to pay. When I earn money I don't think the government has any right to take any of it. Nevada has no income tax. They get their money from gambling. Colorado has gambling in some cities, and lotto. We should not have to pay income tax. I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,, with all its faults, we still live in a pretty blessed country in terms of resources and lifestyles,, and that doesnt just protect itself, roads dont build themselves, teachers dont teach for free, police dont protect for free,, we dont have safety nets for the least amongst us for free,, and the list goes on an on income tax is the rent for living in america,,,in my opinion in nevada, yes, we have communities as far as people residing in the same area,, but in all reality,,,,there are maybe 100 homes around my community,, most all have working families, all of whom are full of the very kind of people who claim they want to be free to 'keep' all their income ,, and they dont want to spend it on people in 'need',, though they will spend it with businesses as far as gun control, I dont feel guns in everyones hands makes me more safe,, so thats not really part of my thought process regarding jobs,,,Im speaking more about 'job security',, or more accurately 'income security' tasks such as mowing lawns or cleaning homes take TIME and effort and an investment in materials,, they also take consumers who TRUST unlicensed strangers who are 'in need' to come into their well decorated homes,,,it takes a landscape where there are lawns,,, thats not happening where I live,, or where MANY folks live there are not really self tasks that are going to realistically pay anyones bills,,,, I have News for you,The State is NOT the Owner NOR the Originator of your Rights! You are the SOLE Owner of them! 
what you have these days are not "Taxes",but "Extortion By Law"! |
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. 
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. in the past we had communities, security, safety, that we dont have today different times,, different needs, different resources,,,, In the past? Are you telling me you don't have a community? You don't have security or safety? And you want gun control? I don't know where all of you people live, but my town has a community. Yes we pay sales taxes, and property taxes and licence fees on our cars and we pay the state when we get caught driving with no seat belt. Income tax I don't want to pay. When I earn money I don't think the government has any right to take any of it. Nevada has no income tax. They get their money from gambling. Colorado has gambling in some cities, and lotto. We should not have to pay income tax. I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,, with all its faults, we still live in a pretty blessed country in terms of resources and lifestyles,, and that doesnt just protect itself, roads dont build themselves, teachers dont teach for free, police dont protect for free,, we dont have safety nets for the least amongst us for free,, and the list goes on an on income tax is the rent for living in america,,,in my opinion in nevada, yes, we have communities as far as people residing in the same area,, but in all reality,,,,there are maybe 100 homes around my community,, most all have working families, all of whom are full of the very kind of people who claim they want to be free to 'keep' all their income ,, and they dont want to spend it on people in 'need',, though they will spend it with businesses as far as gun control, I dont feel guns in everyones hands makes me more safe,, so thats not really part of my thought process regarding jobs,,,Im speaking more about 'job security',, or more accurately 'income security' tasks such as mowing lawns or cleaning homes take TIME and effort and an investment in materials,, they also take consumers who TRUST unlicensed strangers who are 'in need' to come into their well decorated homes,,,it takes a landscape where there are lawns,,, thats not happening where I live,, or where MANY folks live there are not really self tasks that are going to realistically pay anyones bills,,,, I got a question for you, why do we OWE the state anything? why is there rent (which btw you don't own something truly if you have to pay to keep it, like say a house), why do we have bills? can you tell me that? I'll tell you exactly why......all these bills we owe, are nothing more than collateral for the debt of the state, it's really that simple. We ALL are in debt because they have made us to be so, that's the whole reason for paper money (we have no money of our own since they create it all), for birth certificates, for social security numbers, etc. We are just used to pay their bills. We should not owe anything to anyone except those we contract with of our own accord (and by contract I mean a legal one which gives us say so over its' terms, any other contract is not lawful even if the state says you have to sign it), that we do means we are born into debt and we are not free under that debt. Oh and I guess this answers the question posed about how would police be served, how would roads be built etc, without taxes. There are MANY other ways and means of exchange to get things done. Money as we know it isn't the only way, we have been conditioned to think it is, but it's not. We can survive without that means of exchange if we knew how and were taught how. But those in power don't want that, because if we knew that, their game would be over and their money pit would dry up, so they don't tell us. They need us a hell of a lot more than we need them and they know it. why don't you elaborate on the many ways these things get done without taxes? |
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Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts Anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ***. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid. Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge T ax Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax "STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids." |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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In the past, people found things to do to make a living. Before there were corporations and jobs... they sold cattle, broke horses, build wagons, tilled the fields, planted food, hunted, etc. Now everyone sits around doing nothing because there are no jobs? I say get up off your butts and find something to do and stop whining about there not being any jobs. in the past we had communities, security, safety, that we dont have today different times,, different needs, different resources,,,, In the past? Are you telling me you don't have a community? You don't have security or safety? And you want gun control? I don't know where all of you people live, but my town has a community. Yes we pay sales taxes, and property taxes and licence fees on our cars and we pay the state when we get caught driving with no seat belt. Income tax I don't want to pay. When I earn money I don't think the government has any right to take any of it. Nevada has no income tax. They get their money from gambling. Colorado has gambling in some cities, and lotto. We should not have to pay income tax. I dont mind income tax, 'freedom' is not free nor should it be,,, with all its faults, we still live in a pretty blessed country in terms of resources and lifestyles,, and that doesnt just protect itself, roads dont build themselves, teachers dont teach for free, police dont protect for free,, we dont have safety nets for the least amongst us for free,, and the list goes on an on income tax is the rent for living in america,,,in my opinion in nevada, yes, we have communities as far as people residing in the same area,, but in all reality,,,,there are maybe 100 homes around my community,, most all have working families, all of whom are full of the very kind of people who claim they want to be free to 'keep' all their income ,, and they dont want to spend it on people in 'need',, though they will spend it with businesses as far as gun control, I dont feel guns in everyones hands makes me more safe,, so thats not really part of my thought process regarding jobs,,,Im speaking more about 'job security',, or more accurately 'income security' tasks such as mowing lawns or cleaning homes take TIME and effort and an investment in materials,, they also take consumers who TRUST unlicensed strangers who are 'in need' to come into their well decorated homes,,,it takes a landscape where there are lawns,,, thats not happening where I live,, or where MANY folks live there are not really self tasks that are going to realistically pay anyones bills,,,, I got a question for you, why do we OWE the state anything? why is there rent (which btw you don't own something truly if you have to pay to keep it, like say a house), why do we have bills? can you tell me that? I'll tell you exactly why......all these bills we owe, are nothing more than collateral for the debt of the state, it's really that simple. We ALL are in debt because they have made us to be so, that's the whole reason for paper money (we have no money of our own since they create it all), for birth certificates, for social security numbers, etc. We are just used to pay their bills. We should not owe anything to anyone except those we contract with of our own accord (and by contract I mean a legal one which gives us say so over its' terms, any other contract is not lawful even if the state says you have to sign it), that we do means we are born into debt and we are not free under that debt. Oh and I guess this answers the question posed about how would police be served, how would roads be built etc, without taxes. There are MANY other ways and means of exchange to get things done. Money as we know it isn't the only way, we have been conditioned to think it is, but it's not. We can survive without that means of exchange if we knew how and were taught how. But those in power don't want that, because if we knew that, their game would be over and their money pit would dry up, so they don't tell us. They need us a hell of a lot more than we need them and they know it. why don't you elaborate on the many ways these things get done without taxes? It's called bartering, or you do something for them, they do something for you, do I really need to explain the concept? I know you're smarter than that. And when it comes to things like helping a neighbor in distress, whatever happened to doing things just for the sake of them rather than because you expect something back? |
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Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts Anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ***. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid. Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax-- no trucks, no tax Cigarette Tax-- if people quit smoking, then it won't be a tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax --never heard of this Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax --no gas, no tax...(currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax --i don't agree with this one Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties pay your bills--- (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax --good idea Luxury Taxes-- rich people get taxed Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax --no medicare, no tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge T ax Social Security Tax no SSI then Road Usage Tax--no roads, no tax Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax-- no vechicles, no tax School Tax-- State Income Tax-states need money too... not all states have this State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)--the state pays some, the feds match it Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax--no phones, no tax Utility Taxes--no utilities, no tax Vehicle License Registration Tax-no cars, no tax Vehicle Sales Tax-- maybe 10 cars produced by then? Watercraft Registration Tax-- how many watercrafts were there in 1912? Well Permit Tax-- never paid it Workers Compensation Tax- where else would the money to pay it come from? "STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids." 100 years ago? no, it wasn't... there was no mass communication, only newspapers and telegraph, and the wage per day earned was about 1.25... most of these items on the list didn't exist 100 years ago, and most of the others you'll never have to pay in your lifetime... most common people maybe pay a 5th of whats on that list, so quit crying and be a part of a civilized society... |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts Anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ***. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid. Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax-- no trucks, no tax Cigarette Tax-- if people quit smoking, then it won't be a tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax --never heard of this Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax --no gas, no tax...(currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax --i don't agree with this one Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties pay your bills--- (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax --good idea Luxury Taxes-- rich people get taxed Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax --no medicare, no tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge T ax Social Security Tax no SSI then Road Usage Tax--no roads, no tax Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax-- School Tax-- State Income Tax-states need money too... not all states have this State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Utility Taxes- Vehicle License Registration Tax- Vehicle Sales Tax-- maybe 10 cars produced by then? Watercraft Registration Tax-- Well Permit Tax- Workers Compensation Tax- "STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids." 100 years ago? no, it wasn't... there was no mass communication, only newspapers and telegraph, and the wage per day earned was about 1.25... most of these items on the list didn't exist 100 years ago, and most of the others you'll never have to pay in your lifetime... most common people maybe pay a 5th of whats on that list, so quit crying and be a part of a civilized society...
Didn't Federal Incometax start just about a hundred years ago? and most of those "Taxes" are called Tariffs!
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Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts Anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ***. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid. Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax-- no trucks, no tax Cigarette Tax-- if people quit smoking, then it won't be a tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax --never heard of this Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax --no gas, no tax...(currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax --i don't agree with this one Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties pay your bills--- (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax --good idea Luxury Taxes-- rich people get taxed Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax --no medicare, no tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge T ax Social Security Tax no SSI then Road Usage Tax--no roads, no tax Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax-- no vechicles, no tax School Tax-- State Income Tax-states need money too... not all states have this State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)--the state pays some, the feds match it Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax--no phones, no tax Utility Taxes--no utilities, no tax Vehicle License Registration Tax-no cars, no tax Vehicle Sales Tax-- maybe 10 cars produced by then? Watercraft Registration Tax-- how many watercrafts were there in 1912? Well Permit Tax-- never paid it Workers Compensation Tax- where else would the money to pay it come from? "STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids." 100 years ago? no, it wasn't... there was no mass communication, only newspapers and telegraph, and the wage per day earned was about 1.25... most of these items on the list didn't exist 100 years ago, and most of the others you'll never have to pay in your lifetime... most common people maybe pay a 5th of whats on that list, so quit crying and be a part of a civilized society... When one thinks this way, you deserve to be ruled and controlled because you don't have the courage to fight against said rulership. You put down what you only wish you could do yourself. |
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When one thinks this way, you deserve to be ruled and controlled because you don't have the courage to fight against said rulership. You put down what you only wish you could do yourself. you have your opinion, which i'm not saying is wrong, but with the corruption and blatant lies going on with our government, i believe there are bigger fish to fry than taxes at the moment.. so no need to attempt to talk down to me, i've been down the street your on a long time ago kid... i was saying the same things your saying before you were born, but i wised up... so spare me your feeble attempts at belittlement, it won't work... |
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Kleisto
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When one thinks this way, you deserve to be ruled and controlled because you don't have the courage to fight against said rulership. You put down what you only wish you could do yourself. you have your opinion, which i'm not saying is wrong, but with the corruption and blatant lies going on with our government, i believe there are bigger fish to fry than taxes at the moment.. so no need to attempt to talk down to me, i've been down the street your on a long time ago kid... i was saying the same things your saying before you were born, but i wised up... so spare me your feeble attempts at belittlement, it won't work... Bigger fish like what? Taxes and the abuse of them are as much a part of the issue as any other corruption in government is, it goes right along with it. I'd say it's one of the bigger issues in fact.....because it's how they have justified their theft of the American people and the keeping us under their boot as a result of that. If we paid less taxes, we'd have a much better country, more jobs, more productivity.....we can't exactly do what we wish to do if we don't have the money to do it having given it over to them, in this current system. If you've wised up as you say you have, why do you support something that is keeping us enslaved and in bondage to them like this? |
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What they label "defense spending" is not really defense of this country. It is aggression. It is used to fight wars for the corporations. It is building urban ASSAULT vehicles and tanks WE DO NOT NEED. I agree. But others do not..... So because some people disagree others are forced to accept it? If someone disagreed with you that murder of another being (which people who support some of the military actions we do ostensibly do) was wrong would you accept that? People can disagree with things as much as they want, doesn't mean we should always sit by and accept that if it's putting others at risk. |
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sad truths
1. There are laws 2. Nothing worthwhile was meant to come free 3. noone lives in a vaccuum that they create all alone, 4. Even if we dont think we owe,, we ow,,, 5. all three hundred million americans arent going to like EVERYTHING about their country, 6. When you dont like the household, move to another one 7. this is not the world it was when people 'bartered' , technology has caused a necessary evolvement from that form of minimal co supportive communities |
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