Topic: Men
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Tue 02/19/13 08:32 AM








It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy.



Are you serious with this comment? laugh laugh laugh


C'mon. You can't be that surprised about this comment. Maybe you aren't like that, but I have have known a few women who weren't like that, and even they say that most other women are like that. This isn't something that I just made up. You ask any man who was raised to be a gentleman, and they will tell you that most women are only turned on by the men who act like jerks. :tongue:
It sure feels like the girls always go for the jerks.


Yep; sure feels like the guys go for the girls that act like jerks. What is your point? tongue2
Just the sex robot market will take off once they perfect a working unit.


Hopefully; they will have a good working male model too. bigsmile
They already got a robot chair that is controlled by a computer to please women.

I remember a news report from a few years back about a man that lives with real dolls. His reason was the dolls would never cheat on him, lie to him or leave him. The anime series Chobits somewhat touch on robotic dolls that more and more people interact with in a relationship. It may come to that and the human race may have to relay on sperm banks to save us from dying off.



So did the 1980's movie Cherry 2000, just don't get her wet!

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Tue 02/19/13 09:06 AM
I don’t remember that movie and my family use to own a movie store with over 6000 movies. I’m going to have to google it.

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Tue 02/19/13 11:13 AM
Edited by navygirl on Tue 02/19/13 11:14 AM





It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy.



Are you serious with this comment? laugh laugh laugh


C'mon. You can't be that surprised about this comment. Maybe you aren't like that, but I have have known a few women who weren't like that, and even they say that most other women are like that. This isn't something that I just made up. You ask any man who was raised to be a gentleman, and they will tell you that most women are only turned on by the men who act like jerks.


It's not that these guys are jerks; its that they are percieved as jerks. They may seem like jerks to you but not to the woman he is dating. How about men dating a woman who is a total biotch to him? We can see it but he doesn't see how she is treating him badly or using him money. So, is is safe to say most men are would perfer to date a woman that treats him like crap? I am not making this up as I see it a lot with women treating men this way. Being a gentleman is fine but you still need a backbone.


Since when did being a gentleman mean not having a backbone? See, you just made my point. Most women are only turned on by guys who aren't nice, because they think that nice equals no backbone. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. There are lots of guys that are nice that still can't be pushed around. You are getting being nice mixed up with being a door matt. There is a difference.


Most of us have dated these "so called nice guys". No one wants a clingy man that won't stand up to a woman. Everyone has their own definition of nice and men see other men the way they want to. For example; you might consider a guy is nice for buying gifts for a woman; me I can't stand a guy buying gifts so because he doesn't by me a gift; another man would see the guy as not nice. Everyone has their own perception of what a nice guy is and a jerk. A man with manners can still be a jerk. I noticed you brushed off my question as to why men prefer to date women that treat them like crap. laugh

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Tue 02/19/13 11:16 AM


Since when did being a gentleman mean not having a backbone? See, you just made my point. Most women are only turned on by guys who aren't nice, because they think that nice equals no backbone. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. There are lots of guys that are nice that still can't be pushed around. You are getting being nice mixed up with being a door matt. There is a difference.


Here's a post from my blog that may add to this conversation.

Attributes of a Modern Gentleman


*He's well mannered and polite, but that doesn't mean he suffers fools easily.
*He says what he means, but he may not tell you everything and you may not like what you hear.
*He doesn't play head games and he doesn't put up with them.
*He strives for a stress free life and works to eliminate any chaotic influences.
*He can be ruthless when it's called for.
*He maintains a cool head and seldom gets in a rush.
*He never complains. If something troubles him he gets rid of it or gets used to it.
*He puts his income above everything else. Because without it, he cannot meet the needs of anything else.
*He doesn't give his word lightly and when he does it's not easily broken.
*He knows himself and what he needs to be happy.
*He knows his strengths and weaknesses.
*He's open minded, but doesn't change his views easily.
*He doesn't argue, but may enjoy a passionate exchange of ideas.
*He doesn't force, he persuades and influences.
*As for sex, he'll let his desires be known. But, if the attraction isn't mutual, he'll move on quickly. He knows there are plenty of fish in the sea.

http://borninabailofbutcherknives.blogspot.com/2012/07/attributes-of-modern-gentleman.html


Perfect example. :thumbsup:

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Tue 02/19/13 11:18 AM








It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy.



Are you serious with this comment? laugh laugh laugh


C'mon. You can't be that surprised about this comment. Maybe you aren't like that, but I have have known a few women who weren't like that, and even they say that most other women are like that. This isn't something that I just made up. You ask any man who was raised to be a gentleman, and they will tell you that most women are only turned on by the men who act like jerks. :tongue:
It sure feels like the girls always go for the jerks.


Yep; sure feels like the guys go for the girls that act like jerks. What is your point? tongue2
Just the sex robot market will take off once they perfect a working unit.


Hopefully; they will have a good working male model too. bigsmile
They already got a robot chair that is controlled by a computer to please women.

I remember a news report from a few years back about a man that lives with real dolls. His reason was the dolls would never cheat on him, lie to him or leave him. The anime series Chobits somewhat touch on robotic dolls that more and more people interact with in a relationship. It may come to that and the human race may have to relay on sperm banks to save us from dying off.



Very cool and personally I think the human race was meant to die off.

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Tue 02/19/13 11:27 AM









It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy.



Are you serious with this comment? laugh laugh laugh


C'mon. You can't be that surprised about this comment. Maybe you aren't like that, but I have have known a few women who weren't like that, and even they say that most other women are like that. This isn't something that I just made up. You ask any man who was raised to be a gentleman, and they will tell you that most women are only turned on by the men who act like jerks. :tongue:
It sure feels like the girls always go for the jerks.


Yep; sure feels like the guys go for the girls that act like jerks. What is your point? tongue2
Just the sex robot market will take off once they perfect a working unit.


Hopefully; they will have a good working male model too. bigsmile
They already got a robot chair that is controlled by a computer to please women.

I remember a news report from a few years back about a man that lives with real dolls. His reason was the dolls would never cheat on him, lie to him or leave him. The anime series Chobits somewhat touch on robotic dolls that more and more people interact with in a relationship. It may come to that and the human race may have to relay on sperm banks to save us from dying off.



Very cool and personally I think the human race was meant to die off.
Just like everything else, the humans will die off. I do wonder at times if humans are suppose to be the next disaster like the ice age and the meteor that said to wipe out the dinosaurs.

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Tue 02/19/13 11:29 AM
I have known Men who can explain and express their emotions. All Men are not the same.

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Tue 02/19/13 11:52 AM

I noticed you brushed off my question as to why men prefer to date women that treat them like crap. laugh


I can answer that question as it pertains to men and women in the USA.

Men don't prefer to date women that treat them like crap.

If a man is constantly rejected by "nice" women because he cannot give them the kind of lifestyle that they want, then the man may turn to a woman who is a "jerk" just so that the man will not be alone.

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Tue 02/19/13 12:11 PM




It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy.



Are you serious with this comment? laugh laugh laugh


C'mon. You can't be that surprised about this comment. Maybe you aren't like that, but I have have known a few women who weren't like that, and even they say that most other women are like that. This isn't something that I just made up. You ask any man who was raised to be a gentleman, and they will tell you that most women are only turned on by the men who act like jerks.


It's not that these guys are jerks; its that they are percieved as jerks. They may seem like jerks to you but not to the woman he is dating. How about men dating a woman who is a total biotch to him? We can see it but he doesn't see how she is treating him badly or using him money. So, is is safe to say most men are would perfer to date a woman that treats him like crap? I am not making this up as I see it a lot with women treating men this way. Being a gentleman is fine but you still need a backbone.


True Navygirl....laugh

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Tue 02/19/13 12:13 PM
Edited by navygirl on Tue 02/19/13 12:13 PM


I noticed you brushed off my question as to why men prefer to date women that treat them like crap. laugh


I can answer that question as it pertains to men and women in the USA.

Men don't prefer to date women that treat them like crap.

If a man is constantly rejected by "nice" women because he cannot give them the kind of lifestyle that they want, then the man may turn to a woman who is a "jerk" just so that the man will not be alone.


Thanks for the insight. Perhaps that is why some women clutch on to a jerk as they too get tired of rejection. spock

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Tue 02/19/13 02:20 PM

It's also human nature not to want to look week. Women say they want men to express themselves, but they consider him a wuss when he does. They also say they want a gentleman, but they only go out with the bad boys, then when they actually have the nerve to wonder why they can't find a good guy. The only good guys they want to have anything to do with are the ones they want to keep in the friend zone. You know, the guy they use to go crying to when their bad boy treats them, well, bad. Duh!


I'll agree with part of this...sure.
There is a balance to reach in just about everything.
But not all women go for the bad boy. I tried one.....ONCE.... done.
I think we have trouble finding the good guys because most men I know are too busy trying to impress each other instead of the girl that wants to go out with him.

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Tue 02/19/13 02:23 PM

I don’t remember that movie and my family use to own a movie store with over 6000 movies. I’m going to have to google it.


It has Melanie Griffith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU

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Tue 02/19/13 02:27 PM
Navy,

". No one wants a clingy man that won't stand up to a woman."

I don't want any man to "stand up" to me... nope, nope.
He's invited to speak his mind and heart kindly...but I don't need another man in MY life that takes some stand with me. To me, this means bullying. Accommodation on both is ideal for me.

I've never known a clingy man. I enjoy the closeness when I find a man that likes it too, as that is what I am sharing my life for. If I wanted to do everything by myself, and not make decisions together, not do things each day, and live our lives together, I'd stay alone...which I may end up doing anyway for other reasons bigsmile ....
but ideally, sharing a life together was the point in coupling for me. I like the cling. I like doing everything together. Of course there's that balance again....if he wants to take off for a day, no problem. But I'd hate it if my man had to spend most of his time away from me....to me, that's not an intimate relationship at all. Guess everyone is different again. lol

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Tue 02/19/13 02:29 PM


I noticed you brushed off my question as to why men prefer to date women that treat them like crap. laugh


I can answer that question as it pertains to men and women in the USA.

Men don't prefer to date women that treat them like crap.

If a man is constantly rejected by "nice" women because he cannot give them the kind of lifestyle that they want, then the man may turn to a woman who is a "jerk" just so that the man will not be alone.


Gawd...where are you from anyway???
I don't want some man to GIVE me the lifestyle I want??
I have a lifestyle already.
Glad you found yet another reason men use women.
Now why was it women can't use you???

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Tue 02/19/13 02:30 PM


I don’t remember that movie and my family use to own a movie store with over 6000 movies. I’m going to have to google it.


It has Melanie Griffith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU


I enjoy seeing your beard.....just had to say
biggrin

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Tue 02/19/13 02:41 PM

Navy,

". No one wants a clingy man that won't stand up to a woman."

I don't want any man to "stand up" to me... nope, nope.
He's invited to speak his mind and heart kindly...but I don't need another man in MY life that takes some stand with me. To me, this means bullying. Accommodation on both is ideal for me.

I've never known a clingy man. I enjoy the closeness when I find a man that likes it too, as that is what I am sharing my life for. If I wanted to do everything by myself, and not make decisions together, not do things each day, and live our lives together, I'd stay alone...which I may end up doing anyway for other reasons bigsmile ....
but ideally, sharing a life together was the point in coupling for me. I like the cling. I like doing everything together. Of course there's that balance again....if he wants to take off for a day, no problem. But I'd hate it if my man had to spend most of his time away from me....to me, that's not an intimate relationship at all. Guess everyone is different again. lol


Yep; I can't stand someone that clings to me. I need my space and he should have his. I admire a man that stands up to me and speaks his mind rather than the "yes dear" type. Standing up for himself is not abuse as he should have an equal say in the relationship. But as you say; we are all different.

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Tue 02/19/13 02:54 PM



I don’t remember that movie and my family use to own a movie store with over 6000 movies. I’m going to have to google it.


It has Melanie Griffith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU


I enjoy seeing your beard.....just had to say
biggrin


Thanks!waving

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Tue 02/19/13 03:46 PM
Glad you found yet another reason men use women.
Now why was it women can't use you???


huh Another reason that men . . . noway

Congratulations! You read into my statement something that I did not say and did not mean.

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Tue 02/19/13 05:21 PM

Glad you found yet another reason men use women.
Now why was it women can't use you???


huh Another reason that men . . . noway

Congratulations! You read into my statement something that I did not say and did not mean.


Yeah, that happens to me too.

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Tue 02/19/13 05:22 PM
It really depends on the feelings.

All blokes I know, including me, will open up to a woman eventually.

But we will never do it in the same way or as often as your girlfriends will.

A man can express a thousand words in a solitary look.

You just have to be looking