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Compiled videos of building 7: Includes all of them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg The one showing the explosions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=972ETepp4GI&feature=fvwp So how can you prove any of them are "frauds." |
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Edited by
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Just as I thought....you don't know anything for sure. I posted a 109 page report some pages back that demonstrates the severity of the fires in WTC7. I wish you people would read the evidence presented so I don't have to go over the same ground repeatedly. This gets SO tedious. You are correct. I don't know anything for sure where 9-11 is concerned, But then then NEITHER DO YOU.
I can discern facts from crazy fantasy. I know that much. I do know enough not to believe the liars who have lied to the public again and again. I do know enough to listen to my bull chit meter. It has had plenty of practice.
As far as going over the same ground repeatedly, I have done the same thing. I agree, it is so tedious. Your speeches are of no interest to me. Did you read the 109 page report on the collapse of WTC7? Please do, it would save a lot of this unnecessary posting. As far as you telling me that "that video" was a fraud... you don't even know which video I am talking about.
There are hundreds of videos. You don't know which ones are frauds. The popular video showing the row of explosions in WTC7. That is the one proven to be a fraud. You are so tedious. Do you actually read what anyone ever posts for you? I've never come across such poor comprehension in an English speaker, or do you just do this to annoy people? |
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Compiled videos of building 7: Includes all of them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg The one showing the explosions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=972ETepp4GI&feature=fvwp So how can you prove any of them are "frauds." So, it's 'my' proof now is it? As I've mentioned a couple of times already I will post the video which exposes the hoax when I get home. Please read what I post, it will save both of us a lot of time and an unnecessary post count. Just employing one of your tactics, how do you know any of them are authentic? |
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.' The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical. If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world. |
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Compiled videos of building 7: Includes all of them... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg The one showing the explosions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=972ETepp4GI&feature=fvwp So how can you prove any of them are "frauds." So, it's 'my' proof now is it? As I've mentioned a couple of times already I will post the video which exposes the hoax when I get home. Please read what I post, it will save both of us a lot of time and an unnecessary post count. Just employing one of your tactics, how do you know any of them are authentic? I have seen many videos from many different angles. I am assuming they are authentic unless someone proves OTHERWISE. |
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... |
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.' The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical. If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world. i agree, but everything is not a conspiracy...when people think everything is a conspiracy, they lose track of logical and critical thinking, and start making up evidence to support their theories... i've always said that i don't believe everything about 911, but i do believe it was 19 pissed of muslims, and not anything to do with our government. if i'm wrong, then they fooled me... but i don't believe that is the case |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 01/28/13 08:40 PM
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... Molten lava is not a burning building. I don't know what could have caused molten lava, but a normal fire ... did not exist throughout the building. |
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... Molten lava is not a burning building. how did it get molten? |
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... Molten lava is not a burning building. how did it get molten? Not by some office fire that's for sure. It was by some type of explosive. |
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... Molten lava is not a burning building. how did it get molten? Not by some office fire that's for sure. It was by some type of explosive. oh, yea, for sure... |
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.' The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical. If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world. i agree, but everything is not a conspiracy...when people think everything is a conspiracy, they lose track of logical and critical thinking, and start making up evidence to support their theories... i've always said that i don't believe everything about 911, but i do believe it was 19 pissed of muslims, and not anything to do with our government. if i'm wrong, then they fooled me... but i don't believe that is the case Blah blah blah nobody said everything is a conspiracy. People loose track of logical and critical thinking when they believe everything they see on the local nightly news. I don't believe 19 pissed of Muslims pulled of 9-11 on their own. There is no motive. The motives for these kinds of events is always money and power. To say they did it because they 'hate our freedom' is just so utterly stupid. They must think the public is completely stupid. |
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Edited by
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.' The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical. If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world. i agree, but everything is not a conspiracy...when people think everything is a conspiracy, they lose track of logical and critical thinking, and start making up evidence to support their theories... i've always said that i don't believe everything about 911, but i do believe it was 19 pissed of muslims, and not anything to do with our government. if i'm wrong, then they fooled me... but i don't believe that is the case Blah blah blah nobody said everything is a conspiracy. People loose track of logical and critical thinking when they believe everything they see on the local nightly news. I don't believe 19 pissed of Muslims pulled of 9-11 on their own. There is no motive. The motives for these kinds of events is always money and power. To say they did it because they 'hate our freedom' is just so utterly stupid. They must think the public is completely stupid. maybe try digging deeper into the motive thing... you might be surprised... see, you lost the logical and critical thinking again, the motives are not "always" money and power, but religion and hatred are also on that list. i'm not putting you down by saying this, but i feel you have a narrow field of view with your evidence gathering. what i mean is that there are broader perspectives that your either not see or just ignore altogether. but i do agree with you on the propaganda lies "they hate our freedom". not sure who started that, but it was never true... |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 01/28/13 09:00 PM
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The 9-11 crime being blamed on the Muslims only made things worse for them not better.
I don't think religion had anything to do with it. There is always an agenda or a motive. It is usually 99.99 % always about money and power. |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.'
The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. What a load of speculative and unsubstantiated nonsense. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical.
More of the same. So, the risk of the so-called 9/11 conspiracy being exposed wasn't astronomical? The logic is just.... If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted.
The study was a hoax anyway. This post was just a joke. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control.
Incorrect, try looking into it. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory.
No, I have an interest in debunking crazy theories and I've been interested in this for a long time. You seem to assume my interest in 9/11 is recent, but it isn't, much like you assume I haven't read as much as you (I doubt that, but I can't confirm it). I've been interested since the silly theories started cropping up. Just as I was onto the Sandy Hook conspiracies before most were aware that they were starting to gain currency. This is an interest, not a 'chip on my shoulder'. Please learn to discern the difference. A skeptic wouldn't jump to such conclusions. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda.
I never once stated that governments are incapable of subterfuge. However, in the case of 9/11, the conspiracy as put forth by truthers is just plain silly. This accusation toward me always makes me smile along with the shill, CIA plant, government apologist or whatever BS name people will toss about in order to avoid examining their own belief systems. I now wear it with pride because the accusation is so stupid. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice.
Now you're being silly. As you can see, I support the evidence; evidence which I've posted en masse within this thread, which the antagonists are so keen to ignore. I don't see much that contradicts this material coming from the truther camp. Odd that, isn't it? It's not about supporting governments or any other crap. It's about thinking before one dives into irrational beliefs that just promote hysteria and stupidity. Some have argued that the 'diseased' thinking of the CTer's is what is really wrong with America. I say it is one of the flaws within western culture, but I don't automatically dismiss western culture because it may be flawed. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world.
The complete dismissal of anything produced by the scientific community and everything that is logical, while embracing all that is specious and speculative is not what being a skeptic is about. http://youtu.be/UULUQfEQFuU |
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Questions from Hotrod:
If 'the government' was really going to use explosives to take down the WTC, why not do so and blame it on the Al Qaeda anyhow? Why introduce aircraft hijackings, 'dancing Jews', WTC7 et cetera? It is important to be able to distinguish between 'the government' and the Elite Cabal or 'club' that uses their power, influence and wealth to install said 'governments.'
The wealthy install the governments. The wealthy contribute millions to the campaigns and election results and many of the electronic voting machines are owned by convicted felons. It has been testified to in court that these machines have been tampered with. Elections themselves are fixed and manipulated by the Elite. Now to answer your question, 'the government' did not plan and execute the attack on 9-11. But 'the government' (being a tool of the Elite) was complicit in the attacks. This does not mean every single politician was involved, but key people were complicit. The operation is always on a need to know basis and was carried out as black operations. Of course details like the 'dancing Jews' were just screw ups. They were Mossad and yes, they were 'documenting' the event for their masters.... the Elite. WTC 7 and all of the buildings were owned by the same person or company. There were many reasons for the operation most of them were financial. It all has to do with gaining power, and a tyrannical control. What a load of speculative and unsubstantiated nonsense. If they were going to make it look like Iraq had WMD, why didn't they plant them and pretend to find the same? They are not as smart or as well organized as some people think they are. Besides, they didn't need to. They still got into Iraq via their lies and propaganda. The risk of getting caught planting WMD would have been astronomical.
More of the same. So, the risk of the so-called 9/11 conspiracy being exposed wasn't astronomical? The logic is just.... If they really had vaccines that could cause autism, why not use it on their enemies over seas? Probably because vaccines do not cause autism on everyone. But if they did, it would soon be discovered... and they would be busted.
The study was a hoax anyway. This post was just a joke. If they really were able disperse Chemtrails why not use it on the enemy population like they supposedly do the American people? I don't know what you know about Chemtrails, but they have something to do with climate control.
Incorrect, try looking into it. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against anyone who has a conspiracy theory.
No, I have an interest in debunking crazy theories and I've been interested in this for a long time. You seem to assume my interest in 9/11 is recent, but it isn't. I've been interested since the silly theories started cropping up. Just as I was onto the Sandy Hook conspiracies before most were aware that they were staring to gain currency. This is an interest, not a 'chip on my shoulder'. Please learn to discern the difference. Fact is, there are conspiracies. Fact is, the government and the Elite criminals do practice lies and propaganda.
I never once stated that governments are incapable of subterfuge. However, in the case of 9/11, the conspiracy as put forth by truthers is just plain silly. This accusation toward me always makes me smile along with the shill, CIA plant, government apologist or whatever BS name people will toss about in order to avoid examining their own belief systems. If you are a person who support them and wishes to trust them completely, that is your choice.
Now you're being silly. As you can see, I support the evidence; evidence which I've posted en masse within this thread, which the antagonists are so keen to ignore. I am a skeptic. I don't believe them or trust them because I have seen the evil that is being done in this world.
The complete dismissal of anything produced by the scientific community and everything that is logical, while embracing all that is specious and ridiculous is not what being a skeptic is about. That would be your scientific community. Everything that is cornfed to you obviousley not accepted by a large, growing community of individuals that do not believe anything the government or you tell them is true. Just how much do you get paid to post your drivel? |
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The buildings did not burn. They collapsed and turned into mostly dust and some rubble. If those buildings were engulfed in fire, the entire city of New York would have been in flames. There was very little actual fire. i guess you missed the video where molten lava-stuff was pouring out the side of the tower... Molten lava is not a burning building. how did it get molten? Good question...... Finally |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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That would be your scientific community.
Really? That is quite a silly statement when you think about it. Everything that is cornfed to you obviousley not accepted by a large, growing community of individuals that do not believe anything the government or you tell them is true.
I don't expect many of the antagonists on this thread to believe anything I post, for their minds are clearly resolved. Some may argue that the growing number of CTer's (if that's true) is an indictment of your education system. I'll wait till there is more evidence before passing judgement, but that is what I do. Then there's this fascinating contribution: Just how much do you get paid to post your drivel?
Is that the best you've got? You didn't read the post then? How much do you pay your carer when you leave the house? I mean, I can do this crap too, you know. Anyway, I can't dally on here. I've a child to tutor. |
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Did you read the 109 page report on the collapse of WTC7? Please do, it would save a lot of this unnecessary posting. I don't think it should be necessary to read it, except maybe for laughs. The NIST Report is laughable and easily refuted. When it first came out I wondered how they got such highly qualified men to lie like that. I'm, guessing it was bribery that persuaded them to put their names & reputations on that report. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXZnvn7O2NY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYR9Xvo3Ofw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vh1GjMdLyU the risk of the so-called 9/11 conspiracy being exposed wasn't astronomical? I'd say that it has been exposed, so the odds of it being exposed have reached certainty. With all the anomalies, I'd say odds of exposure were pretty high to begin with…nowhere near "astronomical" territory. the motives are not "always" money and power, but religion and hatred are also on that list. I think you are being naive. Religion and hatred are TOOLS the moneyed elite use to play populations off against one another. One might think that after all these years the people would wise up and unite, but obviously most people are too dumb to ever catch on to how their beliefs are used against them to keep them from ever recognizing their true enemy, the people at the top of the power pyramid. |
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Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.
Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.” http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php Nope not spin REALITY. |
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