Topic: (((((Shooting at Connecticut elementary school)))))
msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:02 PM



Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:07 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.

willing2's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:08 PM




Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Like hell it's not true.
NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:08 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 12/16/12 04:10 PM
It's not the guns, or the laws! It's the shrinks and Big Pharma making a fortune with their pill pushing!

Psychotropic drug sales are a multi-BILLION dollar industry for a branch of medical personnel (and big pharma) that doctors don't even consider doctors!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE&feature=youtu.be

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:10 PM




Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue


I AGREE!!!

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 12/16/12 04:12 PM

What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.



probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering

'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.'


WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo?
the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far


I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous

I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,,

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:14 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 12/16/12 04:17 PM

What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.


VERY TRUE......!!!!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:14 PM


What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.



probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering

'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.'


WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo?
the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far


I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous

I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,,


Not everyone wants or cares to own a gun, or do drugs, or drive a car, or fly in an airplane, etc, etc.....

The whole lie is blown out of proportion by the media and their sponsors!

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:15 PM

It's not the guns, or the laws! It's the shrinks and Big Pharma making a fortune with their pill pushing!

Psychotropic drug sales are a multi-BILLION dollar industry for a branch of medical personnel (and big pharma) that doctors don't even consider doctors!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE&feature=youtu.be

drinker A lot of people in this country keep AKs and various automatic weapons. I know some personally. If guns were the problem, we'd have massacres every week. I wish more people were armed AKs or other good guns. It would be the check that Ammendment II was intended to be-a check against State tyranny. The anti-federalists understood correctly that one of the first steps in enslaving people is to disarm them.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:16 PM





Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Like hell it's not true.
NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous.



yeah,, those two thousand or so members (some of them youth and some senior citizens) are all carrying AK's


fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sensefrustrated frustrated

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:17 PM


What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.



probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering

'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.'


WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo?
the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far


I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous

I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,,

The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:19 PM






Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Like hell it's not true.
NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous.



yeah,, those two thousand or so members (some of them youth and some senior citizens) are all carrying AK's


fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sensefrustrated frustrated
Maybe some do carry them, maybe they don't. The nice thing about being free to carry is that an attacker has no idea who is armed or with what. It's a very strong disincentive to criminals.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:19 PM






Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Like hell it's not true.
NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous.



yeah,, those two thousand or so members (some of them youth and some senior citizens) are all carrying AK's


fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sensefrustrated frustrated


"fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sense"

Yes, it does! Mainly because those citizens aren't known for the violent acts of the NBP, but rather for their protection or sport!

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:20 PM

It's not the guns, or the laws! It's the shrinks and Big Pharma making a fortune with their pill pushing!

Psychotropic drug sales are a multi-BILLION dollar industry for a branch of medical personnel (and big pharma) that doctors don't even consider doctors!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhO0Pul_FcE&feature=youtu.be


Blaming the Connecticut shooting on medication when there is no evidence that the shooter was using medication seems to me to be an act of desperation.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:22 PM







Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right.




I Agree.

And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun.

And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks.

Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence.


thats not a true statement

or rather, it is misleading

less than what?

there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states

there is no across the board causation there,,,,

and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue

Like hell it's not true.
NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous.



yeah,, those two thousand or so members (some of them youth and some senior citizens) are all carrying AK's


fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sensefrustrated frustrated


"fear them and not the dozens of thousands of paranoid homeowners, security guards, and other 'legally' armed citizens

that makes sense"

Yes, it does! Mainly because those citizens aren't known for the violent acts of the NBP, but rather for their protection or sport!



seriously?

what 'violent' acts do you speak of specifically,, Id love to hear about them

and then let me list at least three 'violent' acts from members of the groups I mentioned,,,,

willing2's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:23 PM
Here is a group that is celebrating the killing.

According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:

“I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”
“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt, uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.”
“You should be thankful we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet”
He has a “wet dream about killing the g*ddamn cracker.”
“We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New Black Panther Army
Envisions a world where every black person is “ready to bang on this cracker”
Wants to take over neighborhoods “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to come into them
“We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”

What kind of rifle is he holding in the first picture?

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:24 PM

Here is a group that is celebrating the killing.

According to National Field Marshal for the New Black Panthers King Samir Shabazz:

“I love white-on white-crime, because that is the best crime.”
“I hate the g*ddamn white man, woman, and child, grandma, aunt, uncle, Pappa Billy Bob, and whoever else.”
“You should be thankful we’re not running around here hanging crackers by nooses and all that kind of stuff — yet, yet, yet”
He has a “wet dream about killing the g*ddamn cracker.”
“We don’t allow faggots and lesbians” in the New Black Panther Army
Envisions a world where every black person is “ready to bang on this cracker”
Wants to take over neighborhoods “block by block” so “crackers…or even the developer” would be scared to come into them
“We’re taught to send this cracker to the cemetery… so kiss ‘em goodbye”

What kind of rifle is he holding in the first picture?



yeah,, so where is the violent act though,, still waiting...

or is anyone under the illusion that bigotry is a unique quality of NBP members?

metalwing's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:27 PM



What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.



probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering

'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.'


WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo?
the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far


I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous

I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,,

The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too.


They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders.

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:28 PM
There is a difference between the NBP celebrating an act of violence and the NBP committing an act of violence. msharmony asked for an example of the NBP committing an act of violence.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/16/12 04:29 PM




What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother.

If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so.



probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering

'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.'


WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo?
the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far


I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous

I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,,

The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too.


They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders.

True that. drinker