Petitions are already posted on Facebook!
One Jerk posted this!



Idiots jumbled all sorts of Firearms together.
Included those a Civilian can only dream of,because they are strictly Military!
The Red Tent Brigade is out in full force!
Yeah,no Idea about Firearms,but screaming like heck,and disseminating false Information!
Wouldn't you know!
They stole the Pics from two different Sites and Photoshopped them!
Neither original carries the Captions!
Pretty sad how they make Political Hay out of this Tragedy!
Makes one sick!

Oopsy,Doublepost.

They gonna' play this one, big time.

They don't want to address the real problem.

Same page of the news on this, there's an article about reviving gun legislation. Which, in fact, is more important to the loons on the left than those kids or any other kids safety.

Loony criminals will always find a way to get weapons.

quote from a woman who lives in Maryland;

I shouldn't have to prove my life is in danger in order to carry a concealed weapon in Maryland!
This world is crazy!
I want to carry so I can hopefully prevent a crazy *** criminal from killing people whether it's in a movie theater, mall, school etc. things aren't working with only cops and criminals carrying.
More law abiding citizens need to be armed to protect innocent people!!!!
Maryland get with it and change the law or I may become a citizen who doesn't abide by the law and carries to protect myself and others!

Yes. And one day Radical, Loony leftists may realize and be gifted a little wisdom.
Barry and his buds are already priming the pump. That's reality.
Facts show, in areas where concealed or open carry is law, gun crime is lower.

the proof was apparent way back in Kennesaw,GA.

As to your earlier question " am I just another stupid american?" I'll answer this... That if you still cling to your gun believeing It to be your right while you watch the continuous killings of your fellow americans and you believe you are not part of the bigger problem with america??? Then I think you've answered your own question! Your reasoning to fight fire with fire has always been your problem. Look at your children and what you are teaching them! Already many people are suggesting having armed guards in schools!?! For the love of god wake up!

Perhaps you should study your country's history as to why and how it lost the United States as a former colony and why the right the bear arms was made a part of the constitution. You should also study how and why rights were taken away from your king by armed citizens and charters signed to guarantee those rights. Perhaps then, if someone threatened loss your valued freedoms, such as speech and the right to assemble, due to the actions of a few crazed individuals, you might have some concept of what it means for some loud mouthed jerk to demand the loss of basic freedoms for the general population.

LOL.....just because you have a strong opinion, does not make it right. You have no idea what it's like across the pond.

in '97 I got shot during a Robbery in my Place of work,in a former British Colony that has strict Guncontrol!
Yet the Place is awash with illegal Firearms of every Description!
Even fully Automatic Military Weapons!
There is a mandatory two-years increase in the Prisontime if the Crime was committed with a Firearm!
Criminals couldn't care less!

I wonder how it would be if there had been an eleventh right added to the bill of rights.

Those who publicly clamor for the removal of any of the above rights from any citizen shall have their right to free speech forever removed.

Because we are "afraid" of governing our guns from those who are mentally incapable of the responsibility, those who are irresponsible enough to let them get into kids hands or stolen, those who feel a gun makes them more powerful (mentally unwell), etc... and because we teach our children through beatings (spankings)and war, that violence is the answer when you cannot THINK of another way or feel your honor has been damaged. And in a country that believes mental wellness is a given and we don't need to worry about mental health at all. This will never stop.

So make sure your loved ones know you love them because there is no safe place from the gun crazies in this country.

There you go illustrating what I mean about prejudicial blaming, assigning blame before all of the facts come out.

'facts' show correlations

figures can be manipulated towards any end

let me give an example

top ten gun death rates by state

10. tennessee (15/100000)
tied with
9. NM
8. Arkansas
7. AZ
6. NV (16.1)
5. AL (17.5)
4. Alaska (17.6)
3. Mississippi (18.3)
2. Louisiana (20.2)
1. D.C (24.5)

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-204_162-10010004-21.html


top 10 states gun ownership rates

10.ND 50.7 %
9. AL 51.7%
8. Arkansas 55.3%
7. Idaho 55.3
6. Mississipi 55.3
5. WV 55.4%
4. SD 56.6%
3. Montana 57.7%
2. Alaska 57.8%
1. Wyoming 59.7 %




lowest gun ownership rates

•40. Delaware - 25.5%
•41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
•42. California - 21.3%
•42. Maryland - 21.3%
•44. Illinois - 20.2%
•45. New York - 18%
•46. Connecticut - 16.7%
•47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
•48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
•49. New Jersey - 12.3%
•50. Hawaii - 6.7%


http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm

by my count a full FOUR of the states with highest gun ownership are also the states with highest gun deaths and NONE Of those with low ownership make that list

possibly showing a correlation between number of gun owners and gun deaths

and a cause for gun opponents

just like gun proponents try to imply a causal relation between right to carry and gun deaths....

Very True!

Just Another Day in America



Where do the flowers go, perishing before full bloom?

Bearing the scent of innocence instead of perfume

Laughter stilled by harbingers of ill will . . . .

Newtown Connecticut ( a sleepy town originally known as Quanneapague, was purchased from the Pohtatuck Indians in 1705. Settled from Stratford and incorporated in 1711) --- violence interrupts the daily activities and terminates the lives of innocents.

Again we ask ---- why? Genetics, drugs, absence of morality, psychosis or that old chestnut ---- failure of the system? Far and away, the USA is the world leader in gun violence. Sure, the Constitution allegedly gives us the right to bear arms. This too is a matter of interpretation and a topic of discussion for another day.

There are more gun related incidents because we, the people of the United States of America train and develop killers. It is in our culture and heritage.


Hold your outrage at my inferring that this form of moral turpitude is a product made in the USA and not outsourced to China or elsewhere. Consider instead:

1. Our planes and warships spreading and preserving “peace” are loaded with warheads and missiles not olive branches

2. Children, especially young boys can identify types of hand guns before knowing the names of planets. By the way Pluto is almost a planet again; it is a “dwarf planet, ice planet or plutoid”

3. Games on hand held or controlled devices where killings are “scored” are among the best sellers

4. Killers are celebrated and glamorized i.e. Billy the Kid is better known than Bass Reeves (who? --- look it up, you are only proving my point), gangster theme movies and TV shows are financial bonanzas

5. When someone makes a financial windfall, it is referred to as “a killing”

6.Add the violence in sports ---- OK that´s enough



In an ever evolving new world order where scientists, mathematicians, and engineers are in demand, we are left in a trance gaming, tweeting and texting away becoming spectators instead of leaders. Anthropologists someday will ponder whether the opposable thumb was really genetic advancement.



There is a special vase in a celestial place

For the flowers that are not in full bloom

well said.

And, here is the way the stupid Liberals want things.

Taking the stats you provided on the ten highest and ten lowest gun ownership states, I ranked them in terms of the amount of gun crime (larger number means lower gun crime) and the % homicide victims by state (% by gun as opposed to other weapons…national average is 61%). The results proved interesting. To make a long statistical story short, while one might expect the ten highest gun ownership states to have a mean rank of about 5 or 6, they had a mean rank of 31.1 (i.e. they averaged 31st position out of 50 in terms of gun crime. Of crime victims by weapon, they averaged 53.19% by gun (well below the 61% national average).

Taking the ten states with lowest percentage of gun ownership, the mean rank was 23.5 (in the upper half of the rankings and nowhere near the mid 40s as you might expect) and victims by gun (which you might expect to be much lower percentage-wise owing to fewer weapons per capita) averaged to 62.95%, which was higher than the high gun ownership states by about 11% and even higher than the national average of 61%. It appears then, that the gun is the killer's weapon of choice when most other people don't have guns.

To make the short story even shorter, the numbers suggest that high ownership states have lower per capita gun crime and a smaller percentage of gun victims than states with low ownership states. I note that Connecticut had one of the lowest gun death rates in the country. I dare say that statistic is now slated to climb in light of recent tragic events. Apparently fewer guns don't appear to translate into public safety no matter how the numbers are crunched.

The use of gun deaths as a statistic can be very misleading, as many gun deaths are the result of accidents resulting from poor education & trainin (it should be mandated that every student & gun owner in the country should have to pass a competency & firearms safety training course before being able to purchase their first gun) lawful homicide by police in the line of duty stopping criminals, and also suicides, where people find guns to be quick & convenient, however taking the suicidal person's gun way will probably not prevent his suicide by other means, so adding in gun suicides & lawful homicide skews the numbers and makes guns look like the bad guy. The more important numbers IMO are per capita victims of homicide/wounding by gun, which is more accurately reflected in gun crime.

I included the erroneous stat of deaths by gun only to show how drastically it differs from the actual unlawful homicide stats, however, some facts can even be gleaned from these statistics. For one thing, the mean ranks would be expected to fall in the midrange of the actual ranking mean. In both cases they don't. In high gun ownership states, the mean rank is 15.3, well outside the top ten and nowhere near the expected 5 or 6. While in the lower gun ownership states, the mean rank is 41; it just squeezes in to the bottom ten rankings and still sits quite a ways from the expected number of 45-46. This suggests that even with all gun deaths taken into account, the numbers at the extremes tend to gravitate away from their place within the extremes in the direction of the other extreme. Obviously then, there is a problem in establishing a meaningful correlation of gun numbers to gun deaths there are mitigating variables at work.

It will probably lose all the formatting when posted, but for what its worth, here are the numbers:

ownership gun crime rank (of 50) victims by gun (%) gun deaths/100k rank & number

• 1. Wyoming - 59.7% 48th 40.0 4th ( 18.8)
• 2. Alaska - 57.8% 45 52.9 2 (20)
• 3. Montana - 57.7% 7 50.0 13 (14.5)
• 4. South Dakota - 56.6% 46 33.3 41 (7.9)
• 5. West Virginia - 55.4% 40 68.4 12 (14.7)
• 6. Mississippi - 55.3% 9 63.6 6 (17.3)
• 6. Idaho - 55.3% 34 50.0 19 (12.3)
• 6. Arkansas - 55.3% 23 75.2 9 (16.3)
• 9. Alabama - 51.7% 18 65.2 10 (16.2)
• 10. North Dakota - 50.7% 41 33.3 37 (9.1)
__ ___ __
31.1 53.19 15.3 (14.71)


• 40. Delaware - 25.5% 1st 80 37 (9.1)
• 41. Florida - 24.5% n/a
• 42. California - 21.3% 8 72.6 30 (6.7)
• 42. Maryland - 21.3% 18 67.6 22 (11.5)
• 44. Illinois - 20.2% 6 74.2 31 (9.7)
• 45. New York - 18% 32 59.3 46 (5.1)
• 46. Connecticut - 16.7% 31 60.5 49 (4.3)
• 47. Rhode Island - 12.8% 24 63.4 46 (5.1)
• 48. Massachusetts - 12.6% 43 47.4 50 (3.1)
• 49. New Jersey - 12.3% 28 61.0 48 (4.9)
• 50. Hawaii - 6.7% 44 43.5 51 (2.8)
• __ ___ __
• 23.5 62.95 41 (7.17)

I pulled the extra stats off of this site, which seems pretty comprehensive and allows statistical selection by a number of criteria:

http://www.statemaster.com/red/graph/cri_hom_vic_by_wea_gun-crime-homicide-victims-weapon-gun&b_map=1

Here's another story showing how Connecticut's strict gun control laws did NOTHING to protect thse little kids and in fact probably contributed to the massacre by ensuring that a killer would not meet with armed resistance.

http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2012/12/15/connecticuts-strict-gun-control-laws-did-not-stop-the-school-shootings-in-newtown/

and here's one pointing to medication as a possible factor in the shooting:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/adam-lanza-is-recalled-as-a-rambunctious-kid-with-family-problems/2012/12/14/795ad0fe-4641-11e2-8e70-e1993528222d_story.html

and unfortunately, while those poor innocent bodies are still warm, the gun control freaks are already snapping into action.:

http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/15/gun-control-petition-to-white-house-gets-large-and-immediate-support-online/

Could there be a hidden agenda to capitalize on this tragedy?:

http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2012/12/15/government-calling-for-gun-control-with-fake-social-media-accounts/

It strikes me that PROPER legislation to deal with mass shootings like this would be to repeal the act mandating schools as "gun free zones", severely restricting the use of SSRI's and making the local city ordinance of Kennesaw, Ga a federal law, that mandates every capable and competent householder to own and learn proper use & safety & carry of firearms. Kennesaw is a model of what the average citizen can do to bring safety, peace, law, and order to his community. Imagine if your whole country was like that! Just think what 300 million peace officers could do. For one thing…mass shootings would be a thing of the past.

Believe it when I say;

If, anyone there had been armed and saved kids, the armed civilian would have been jailed and prosecuted for an illegal firearm.

Stupid Libs want further restrictions.

How ignorant is dat?

in this case, wouldnt make much point at all

since the killer was already suicidal