Yeah the dirty bastards did it.

absotively and posilutely amazing!

Nown let's be careful and honest with what we say. US primary education system. Our colleges are actually considered some of the best in the world. I mean S Korea is ranked in the top 5 in everything and I asked some if Koreans think US colleges are better and they said yes.

Think Military Industrial Complex, banks and profit.....

It depends what you consider "inside" in the question.....

But.. I just can't help myself..

That was a classic read! Loved it!

Oh! I got a great education here. I was referring to the ones who apparently skewed the poll.

The poll is in line with my peer group that's for sure.

latest results.

75.7% yes it was an inside job.

13% no

9.8% depends how you define inside.

1.5% none of the above.

Go into denial and spin mode all you wish, the people have spoken.

I love how you guys use the psychological term 'denial' incorrectly.

So, the poll is in line with your peer group? I'd keep quiet about that if I were you.

The people have spoken? Well, that confirms what my peer group believes about most people, but I doubt they'd be incompetent enough to actually use it as proof.

It's a bit like explaining color to a blind person.

from the "TWOOFER"-Thread!

Mark Hoofnagle has described denialism as "the employment of rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of argument or legitimate debate, when in actuality there is none." It is a process that operates by employing one or more of the following five tactics in order to maintain the appearance of legitimate controversy:
1.Conspiracy theories — Dismissing the data or observation by suggesting opponents are involved in "a conspiracy to suppress the truth".
2.Cherry picking — Selecting an anomalous critical paper supporting their idea, or using outdated, flawed, and discredited papers in order to make their opponents look as though they base their ideas on weak research.
3.False experts — Paying an expert in the field, or another field, to lend supporting evidence or credibility.
4.Moving the goalpost — Dismissing evidence presented in response to a specific claim by continually demanding some other (often unfulfillable) piece of evidence.
5.Other logical fallacies — Usually one or more of false analogy, appeal to consequences, straw man, or red herring.

Tara Smith of the University of Iowa also stated that moving goalposts, conspiracy theories and cherry-picking evidence are general characteristics of denialist arguments, but went on to note that these groups spend the "majority of their efforts critiquing the mainstream theory" in an apparent belief that if they manage to discredit the mainstream view, their own "unproven ideas will fill the void".[/i[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

I say it again....


This whole unprovable argument for or against one theory or another, name calling and opinion bashing....

It's like 2 monkeys arguing over a banana under a tree full of them!

POINTLESS!

Actually, the POINT is clear in this thread that real logic and science trumps made up absurdities 100% of the time.

Now if you are referring to one truther theory over another truther theory, your description seems pretty valid.

I question 9/11 because it doesn't add up for me, others might think I'm crazy for having a belief or understanding different from theirs, but without facts (all veiled under gov't security shams) 9/11 can never be argued rationally by either set of beliefs... therefore, any belief is equally valid, or equally invalid, and to argue a point without fact..... is indeed pointless!

Name calling and opinion bashing from either side is senseless, devisive and futile...except to grow ones own ego.... and homey don't play that!

One might as well argue religion.... the aspects are the same....a belief based opinion without fact, only personal understanding and willingness to believe

75.8% say its an inside job.

Its pretty much in line with those who post in this thread, well at least the americans.

Two very loud voices from far away lands claim it happened as described by our corrupt government and media, one american as far as I can tell.

The debate is over , its an inside job so what to do about it?

"Pancake theory?" I didn"t see a stack of floors piled up at the base. 110 floors fell at or near free fall speed one would think they would have piled up a bit.

You guys claiming science is on your side simply crack me up.

'One would think they would have piled up a bit'

That is absurd given the mass and inertia. You have science on YOUR side?

It doesn't add up for YOU. You believe there aren't any facts, but science disagrees with your belief system. Your whole premise is illogical.



Assume much?



Incorrect.

Irrelevant.



Again, where I live has nothing to do with this debate. Just more ad hominem from someone without an arsenal of facts.



So, this is your decision alone?