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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. |
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Conspiracy Theory is the new boogieman. To undermine dialogue and attempt to stifle or ridicule the desire to question and quiet dessent, " conspiracy theory" is now a tag used to labal truthers as unpatriotic and paranoid irrational crackpots. hmmm, unpatriotic and paranoid irrational crackpots?... well you said it, I didn't! 
At least everyone agrees on the basic facts that the planes were hijacked by al-Qaeda and flown full of passengers and fuel into the World Trade Center towers in a successful terrorist attack killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah and radical Islamic bigotry. The rest is just piddling details but no one in their right mind would question those basic evidence facts concerning the attacks.
The evidence is overwhelming. It has nothing to do with what any government says. Planes full of passengers, video of the hijackers, money and document trail to al-Qaida, confessions and bragging by the hijackers, destroyed WTC towers, thousands killed...such facts don't lie.
No amount of nonsensical side arguments negates any of the evidence. No amount of governmental lying covers any of that up!! No unsupported Conspiracy Theories will make it go away.
Don't let that scientific gobbledegook put blinders on your eyes... Yeah! Don't let any of that scientific analysis and engineering investigation fool you! IT WUZ AYLEEANZ!! 
and YES I "refuse" to consider your "science"
ALL the scientists and engineers are WRONG! Nobody saw those planes hit the WTC. It wuz FAKED by da Gubbermint. The proof is what these Aleeanz sed!!
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. CT'ers may think they "deserve" a lot of things.... they don't... your probably the most logical CT'er in here, but you really are kidding yourself if you think we deserve anything... |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? lol... my math could have been a little off... 
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Not just simulations. There are failure analysis equations as well as yield strength. In fact a resident structural engineer on this site has talked about these at length. You just ignore them. Well the scientific community doesn't agree with you. You have no evidence. You say look at the evidence but you present none. Everything CTs say can't be explained actually can and they just ignore it. I ignore them because they are bunk. They mean nothing in the whole scheme of things. Even if there is some truth to those "facts" there is no proof that the planes that hit the two towers were the ones they claim they were. You cannot identify them in any of the videos. The flights did not exist on that day according to records. You are the one WHO is hypnotized by your scientists reports which mean NOTHING AND PROVE NOTHING. Also the videos you guys are always touting that are "live" show a bright light (a missile) going off before the plane makes contact with the building. The kind of plane in the video is unknown. It cannot be identified. No evidence that the official account is true.... at all. science prove a lot of this, but you refuse to see... all you want as proof is doctored videos on you tube, and your CT sites... neither of which proves anything, except to you and your fellow CT'ers Science did not prove any of it. They used computer SIMULATIONS and most probably input fabricated data in order to come up with the results their masters wanted them to come up with. Even if that is NOT THE CASE... it does not prove what planes (or drones) actually crashed into the towers. and it does NOT PROVE who flew them, or who was actually on those planes. Hence your hypnotic fixation on your "science" MEANS NOTHING and proves nothing. whatever... i already knew that that you cannot comprehend any science, thats why you always argue against it... but believing someone you don't know on some weird site that just makes stuff up is more your speed anyway... There you go. Pretending to know what I can "comprehend." That is your only argument. A presumption. I don't even "argue against" your alleged "science." I said that it is irrelevant and that it does not prove the official story is anything but a bald faced lie and cover up. If you want to say that your science proves that two planes caused the towers to fall the way they did IT DOES NOT MATTER and it does not change a thing. Even if it is true. (Which I don't believe) it does not matter. It doe not prove the official story is true about the hi jackers or the planes. |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
Well, I was being general regarding 'twoofer' logic, not referring to any specific detail. But he is right about jumping to conclusions without considering other possibilities. That is poor logic. |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
You shouldn't. |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
You shouldn't. Why's that? Oh yeah, because in a battle of wits 'twoofers' are unarmed. |
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It is rather odd that the black boxes if they were ever found, were never used as evidence or exposed to media scrutiny. I suspect and this is my personal opinion is that the information on them did not match up with the "official story line". your right it is odd... and obama still being president is even odder... but still really means nothing, just more speculation... Black boxes are to be used to find out what happened. I had heard none were found and that is very odd and unusual. Then I heard one was found yet the evidence on it was never released. How very odd indeed. Just add it to the pile of all the odd things that transpired on 911 forget about it and except the official government fairy tale eh? only if someone believes it was a fairy tale... what i really don't get is since when did the government say they were going to disclose everything they do to everybody? the government is going to have it's secrets, no matter how much CT'ers think otherwise...and if you think the government is/was/will disclose any secrets on 9/11, your wrong, because the won't and never will. We haven't even been told the truth about Kennedy yet, 70 years ago. And you guys seem to think they will just open up about this? or is it just fun for you guys to think about how many different ways the government is screwing with us? Something like "this is the pilot I have no control of my plane its flying on its own please help" We bankrupted our country over two wars on the pretext of 911. We deserve answers. that seems like bad logic... it's kind of like saying your child is not home, so something bad must have happened to them... if i remember right, didn't the hijackers kill the pilots? so maybe, just maybe, they didn't release them because of the victims families? lawsuits? Just trying to put it to rest? there is more than one reason why they didn't release them to the public... Bad Logic? Really?
You shouldn't. Why's that? Oh yeah, because in a battle of wits 'twoofers' are unarmed.
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Black boxes are not magic. They are just a tool to help the FAA and the NTSB analyze and prevent additional crashes and, often, non crash related events such as the pilot being asleep.
The "black box" is just a voice recorder and a device that records some of the instrument readings. |
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Black boxes are not magic. They are just a tool to help the FAA and the NTSB analyze and prevent additional crashes and, often, non crash related events such as the pilot being asleep. The "black box" is just a voice recorder and a device that records some of the instrument readings. Nuh uh. It's a magical device that takes a total 3d scan of the entire plane during the entire flight. It does DNA write upset of everyone on board, it has heart monitors and heat sensors and it displays them in a halographic image when openned. |
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Black boxes are not magic. They are just a tool to help the FAA and the NTSB analyze and prevent additional crashes and, often, non crash related events such as the pilot being asleep. The "black box" is just a voice recorder and a device that records some of the instrument readings. Nuh uh. It's a magical device that takes a total 3d scan of the entire plane during the entire flight. It does DNA write upset of everyone on board, it has heart monitors and heat sensors and it displays them in a halographic image when openned. It the black boxes had been found, The TCers would just say the data was faked. 
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Black boxes are not magic. They are just a tool to help the FAA and the NTSB analyze and prevent additional crashes and, often, non crash related events such as the pilot being asleep. The "black box" is just a voice recorder and a device that records some of the instrument readings. Nuh uh. It's a magical device that takes a total 3d scan of the entire plane during the entire flight. It does DNA write upset of everyone on board, it has heart monitors and heat sensors and it displays them in a halographic image when openned. It the black boxes had been found, The TCers would just say the data was faked.
Some probably would. And IF the entire 9-11 official account IS a total fraud, and they did happen to find a black box that did not back up their story, they would have two choices. 1. Pretend no black boxes were recovered. or 2. Try to fake what they might find on the black box to match their story. Which one do you think would be easiest? You guessed it. And guess what they most probably did? .... No black boxes were recovered. |
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Black boxes are not magic. They are just a tool to help the FAA and the NTSB analyze and prevent additional crashes and, often, non crash related events such as the pilot being asleep. The "black box" is just a voice recorder and a device that records some of the instrument readings. Nuh uh. It's a magical device that takes a total 3d scan of the entire plane during the entire flight. It does DNA write upset of everyone on board, it has heart monitors and heat sensors and it displays them in a halographic image when openned. It the black boxes had been found, The TCers would just say the data was faked.
Some probably would. And IF the entire 9-11 official account IS a total fraud, and they did happen to find a black box that did not back up their story, they would have two choices. 1. Pretend no black boxes were recovered. or 2. Try to fake what they might find on the black box to match their story. Which one do you think would be easiest? You guessed it. And guess what they most probably did? .... No black boxes were recovered. and maybe they were melted and crushed by 100's of tons of melted concrete and steel... |
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