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Topic: I don't believe the official story of 9/11
HotRodDeluxe's photo
Sun 08/26/12 05:15 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 08/26/12 05:34 AM
This video, uploaded by the Iranian controlled media outlet, 'PressTV' contains faked shots and misleading references. Note the shot of the 'missile' hole. This hole is actually the inner ring of the Pentagon, not the outer ring where the plane struck, therefore, it is merely where some debris penetrated the wall. Not that this will deflect the twoofer cult from their dogma. Moreover, the video footage of the 'missile' has been proven to be a fake, and yet, this is continually posited as 'pwoof'.

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/196559.html

"But, but...I saw it on pressTV! It must be true! laugh

Eleven years on and 'da twoofers' have achieved nothing. No case has been presented with convincing evidence to initiate another enquiry. Every straw clutched by them has been debunked. The grand leaps of logic have left them plummeting into a chasm of banality. The mythology of the cult is transparent to anyone with half a brain, and the same old dogma is dragged out yet again, even after debunking.

We've had such fantasies as 'the dustifying of steel and concrete', HAARP weapons; energy balls; missiles, etc. even though aircraft are clearly the terrorists weapons of choice. We have dumbass 'false flag' claims when it is clear that AL-Qaeda had been ramping up their operations against the US. But still, the dogma is rolled out yet again while the cult is slowly dying.

metalwing's photo
Sun 08/26/12 05:48 AM
Edited by metalwing on Sun 08/26/12 06:02 AM

This video, uploaded by the Iranian controlled media outlet, 'PressTV' contains faked shots and misleading references. Note the shot of the 'missile' hole. This hole is actually the inner ring of the Pentagon, not the outer ring where the plane struck, therefore, it is merely where some debris penetrated the wall. Not that this will deflect the twoofer cult from their dogma. Moreover, the video footage of the 'missile' has been proven to be a fake, and yet, this is continually posited as 'pwoof'.

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/196559.html

"But, but...I saw it on pressTV! It must be true! laugh

Eleven years on and 'da twoofers' have achieved nothing. No case has been presented with convincing evidence to initiate another enquiry. Every straw clutched by them has been debunked. The grand leaps of logic have left them plummeting into a chasm of banality. The mythology of the cult is transparent to anyone with half a brain, and the same old dogma is dragged out yet again, even after debunking.

We've had such fantasies as 'the dustifying of steel and concrete', HAARP weapons; energy balls; missiles, etc. even though aircraft are clearly the terrorists weapons of choice. We have dumbass 'false flag' claims when it is clear that AL-Qaeda had been ramping up their operations against the US. But still, the dogma is rolled out yet again while the cult is slowly dying.


The text under the video is especially funny where they have "learned" that three thermo-nuclear underground weapons took out the WTC building.laugh

First rule of fake video editing ... the blurrier the vid, the easier it is to fake.

metalwing's photo
Sun 08/26/12 06:00 AM

Reposting that is worse than Plagiarism.


... and that is all truthers do ...

no photo
Sun 08/26/12 10:47 AM
The twin towers were like an entire city. To burn an entire city down to ash and molten metal would have taken days probably weeks.

The cars in the parking lot blocks away from the towers were on fire? Did you see any pictures of them burning? If fire reached them, how did it get there? If fire was burning up blocks of cars why was there paper all over the streets?

You are claiming that there were fires hot enough melt cars but yet how did these fires reach the parking lot? And why was there paper (Unburned) all over the place?

Concrete pounded into dust, and steal beams melted into nothing. No furniture, toilets, file cabinets, desks, chairs, and tons and tons of other things you might find in a building as large as an entire city.... and yet there was unburned paper flying around all over the streets.


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Sun 08/26/12 10:49 AM
Looking at pictures of the towers exploding.... and that is what they were doing, is so glaringly obvious that they were EXPLODING I find it incredible that there are a few people who are still in denial about that.

I astonishes me.

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Sun 08/26/12 10:55 AM
What also astonishes me is that people who question the official account of 9-11 and people who want the truth (because the official 9-11 account IS NOT THE TRUTH) are treated with disdain and disrespect by a very small few.

The "truthers" number in the thousands and consist of scientists and engineers and relatives of victims, and a lot of ordinary alert people who just want some questions answered.

You small few who, for some reason, hold on tightly to the idea that your government is telling you the truth are not going to stop the truth movement.

It is a truth movement, which means that yours is a futile attempt to distort and ignore the truth or to cover up the truth.




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Sun 08/26/12 10:59 AM
Can you put paper into a microwave oven?

Yes. You can heat your sandwich on a paper plate.

Can you put metal in a microwave oven?

I dare you to try.

It will explode.

Perhaps there was a combination of things involved with the destruction of the Twin Towers... something related to microwave weapons.


InvictusV's photo
Sun 08/26/12 11:13 AM

What also astonishes me is that people who question the official account of 9-11 and people who want the truth (because the official 9-11 account IS NOT THE TRUTH) are treated with disdain and disrespect by a very small few.

The "truthers" number in the thousands and consist of scientists and engineers and relatives of victims, and a lot of ordinary alert people who just want some questions answered.

You small few who, for some reason, hold on tightly to the idea that your government is telling you the truth are not going to stop the truth movement.

It is a truth movement, which means that yours is a futile attempt to distort and ignore the truth or to cover up the truth.






I am astonished that you are astonished..











metalwing's photo
Sun 08/26/12 11:16 AM


What also astonishes me is that people who question the official account of 9-11 and people who want the truth (because the official 9-11 account IS NOT THE TRUTH) are treated with disdain and disrespect by a very small few.

The "truthers" number in the thousands and consist of scientists and engineers and relatives of victims, and a lot of ordinary alert people who just want some questions answered.

You small few who, for some reason, hold on tightly to the idea that your government is telling you the truth are not going to stop the truth movement.

It is a truth movement, which means that yours is a futile attempt to distort and ignore the truth or to cover up the truth.






I am astonished that you are astonished..













To someone with no concept of science ... everything seems like magic.

InvictusV's photo
Sun 08/26/12 11:25 AM



What also astonishes me is that people who question the official account of 9-11 and people who want the truth (because the official 9-11 account IS NOT THE TRUTH) are treated with disdain and disrespect by a very small few.

The "truthers" number in the thousands and consist of scientists and engineers and relatives of victims, and a lot of ordinary alert people who just want some questions answered.

You small few who, for some reason, hold on tightly to the idea that your government is telling you the truth are not going to stop the truth movement.

It is a truth movement, which means that yours is a futile attempt to distort and ignore the truth or to cover up the truth.






I am astonished that you are astonished..













To someone with no concept of science ... everything seems like magic.


the government could say the sky is green and it doesn't change the fact that the 9-11 truthers are full of it..

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Sun 08/26/12 11:33 AM
Yep 9-11 truthers are full of it.... they are full of the truth.

One does not to have to know jack about your so-called academic science to KNOW that the government's account of 9-11 is a lie and there is no evidence to back them up on their claims.

No evidence that flights 77 or 11 ever even took off.

No evidence that anyone ever boarded those planes.

No evidence that they were hijacked by the people they claim did it.

Plus, 7 of those alleged suspected hi jackers turned up alive after 9-11.

laugh laugh laugh

The truth will be known.


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Sun 08/26/12 11:34 AM

FBI Suspected dead terrorist hi jacker:

Waleed M. Alshehri: Possible Saudi national. Dates of birth used: Sept. 13, 1974; Jan. 1, 1976; March 3, 1976; July 8, 1977; Dec. 20, 1978; May 11, 1979; Nov. 5, 1979. Possible residences: Hollywood, Orlando and Daytona Beach, Fla. Believed to be a pilot.

<--- First picture, FBI Photo. Second Picture from a 2007 video.


Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September. Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco. He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Dayton Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring. But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco. [BBC]


Waleed Alshehri, a Saudi Arabian pilot, was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 11. Alshehri turned up in Morocco after the attack where he contacted both the Saudi and American authorities to tell them he was not involved in the attack.

Other points.

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According to American Airlines own records, flight 11 NEVER DEPARTED. That flight did not exist.

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Videos of planes hitting the World Trade center could not and cannot be identified as an American Airlines Flight.

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A flash of light was seen on videos coming from the plane before the plane (or drone) even made contact with the Tower.

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The FBI has no evidence that anyone at all ever boarded flight 11. There are no videos, and there was no authentic flight passenger list produced.

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There are six other so-called accused Hijackers who were still alive and claiming their innocence after 9-11.




InvictusV's photo
Sun 08/26/12 11:38 AM

Yep 9-11 truthers are full of it.... they are full of the truth.

One does not to have to know jack about your so-called academic science to KNOW that the government's account of 9-11 is a lie and there is no evidence to back them up on their claims.

No evidence that flights 77 or 11 ever even took off.

No evidence that anyone ever boarded those planes.

No evidence that they were hijacked by the people they claim did it.

Plus, 7 of those alleged suspected hi jackers turned up alive after 9-11.

laugh laugh laugh

The truth will be known.




I don't give a flying f**k what the 9-11 commission report says..

large planes flying at high speeds collided with 2 towers and the force of the impact created enough stress on the buildings structures to cause them to collapse..

that's it..

no fning laser beams or pulse weapons..

no fning explosives or aliens..

no fning made up BS..

FORCE EQUALS MASS TIMES ACCELERATION..


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Sun 08/26/12 11:39 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/26/12 11:45 AM
Eleven years on and 'da twoofers' have achieved nothing.



On the contrary. They have achieved a lot.

The bombing of the twin towers by the Cabal and the sloppy way in which they attempted to cover up the truth has awaken millions of people... not only in America, but all over the world.

The truth is always revealed and enlightenment is achieved after the event of the tower.

In the tarot and in reality, the sign means the same thing. The ugly truth will be revealed. The "truthers" are the ones who are uncovering the truth and exposing the lies. It continues. The status quo is doomed.

The people are enlightened.



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Sun 08/26/12 11:42 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/26/12 11:43 AM


Yep 9-11 truthers are full of it.... they are full of the truth.

One does not to have to know jack about your so-called academic science to KNOW that the government's account of 9-11 is a lie and there is no evidence to back them up on their claims.

No evidence that flights 77 or 11 ever even took off.

No evidence that anyone ever boarded those planes.

No evidence that they were hijacked by the people they claim did it.

Plus, 7 of those alleged suspected hi jackers turned up alive after 9-11.

laugh laugh laugh

The truth will be known.




I don't give a flying f**k what the 9-11 commission report says..

large planes flying at high speeds collided with 2 towers and the force of the impact created enough stress on the buildings structures to cause them to collapse..

that's it..

no fning laser beams or pulse weapons..

no fning explosives or aliens..

no fning made up BS..

FORCE EQUALS MASS TIMES ACCELERATION..




--->force equals mass times acceleration...<------ (Hillarious)

laugh laugh laugh


That is basically irrelevant. It matters NOT what YOU believe about HOW the Towers were taken down. Those are details that are irrelevant.

The important thing is who is responsible, why it was done and what is going to result because of it.

The important thing is the truth about why the government is covering up the truth and what their role in the event was.

I don't give a flying f**CK what you believe about how the towers fell, or why.


Flights 77 and 11 did not crash into the towers and no one can prove they did.



mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/26/12 11:54 AM

For those who don't believe fire can melt steel and other metals:

Sylmar fire's collateral damage
Los Angeles Times - Nov 28, 2008

Earlier this month, fire erupted in the hills above Sylmar. It blew through Oakridge Mobile Home Park, burning with such ferocity that rain gutters turned into pools of molten metal and car tires were melted down to tangled nests of steel radials.

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Deadly pile-up paralyses city
From: Herald Sun (Melbourne)
March 24, 2007 12:00AM

As the Burnley Tunnel tragedy unfolded:

WITNESSES watched a 15m fireball turn cars to molten metal and send thick plumes of smoke billowing skyward.
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"This was extreme heat -- the wrecks are just molten metal," [Metropolitan Fire Brigade acting chief Keith Adamson] said.

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Police unable to locate drivers who escaped tunnel fire
The Daily Journal (San Mateo County), October 15, 2007

As the highway reopened early Monday, investigators worked to identify vehicles, some of which were reduced to molten steel in the fire's intense heat.

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Tank Explosion Tied To California Bus Fire
Evening Independent - Jun 27, 1981

The intensity of the flames sent streams of molten metal running along the highway and blackened asphalt for a quarter of a mile.

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[San Bernardino County Coroner Harvey Castro] said all the bodies were burned beyond recognition by the intense heat, "which just melted the bus."

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Indicators of Trouble
John J. Lentini
w w w. firescientist.com/Documents/IndicatorsOfTrouble.pdf

A study of the 1991 Oakland fire that burned 3,000 homes revealed the presence of melted copper in over 80% of the burned structures, and what appeared to be melted steel in over 90% of the burned structures. With respect to steel, looks can be deceiving. What appears to be melted may be merely oxidized.

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Fire Melts Steel Road Supports
Schenectady Gazette, August 7, 1989

A fire at an illegal dump beneath an elevated highway yesterday melted steel supports and buckled a section of the busy route into the New York metropolitan area, authorities said.

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Old Amusement Park Burns
The Spokesman-Review (Spokane, WA) - Jul 22, 1963

Fire of searing intensity consumed much of the old Forest Park Highlands Amusement Park, a St. Louis landmark. The blaze, at its height here, "melted steel like butter," said one awed spectator.

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Massive fire engulfs several blocks of Ybor City
Boca Raton News (Associated Press) - May 20, 2000

Several blocks of historic Ybor City went up in flames Friday, wiping out a $30 million luxury apartment complex under construction and destroying a post office.

The massive six-alarm blaze, caused by a construction accident, melted steel girders on nearby construction projects and sent construction workers and postal employees fleeing from the inferno.

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Troopers Identify Fourth Victim In Fishing Boat Fire
Anchorage Daily News - Sep 15, 1982

Troopers said they have recovered remains of at least seven bodies from the fishing vessel Investor, which burned Sept. 7. The body of 4-year-old John Coulthurst was not found, but trooper spokesman Paul Edscorn said investigators believe the intense heat of the fire completely destroyed any remains.

"We're talking about a fire that melted steel," Edscorn said.

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Worker Injured When Fire Erupts At Paint Warehouse
Ocala Star-Banner - May 28, 1987

Fire broke out at a paint warehouse on the city's north side Wednesday night, injuring one worker and turning the building into a pile of melted steel girders, authorities said.

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Five-Alarm Blaze Razes Factory in New Orleans
The Victoria Advocate - Jul 9, 1980 (AP)

Flames, so hot they melted steel, destroyed the 800,000-square-foot American Standard plumbing accessories plant on Lake Pontchartrain early Tuesday and injured at least two firefighters who fought the spectacular blaze for more than six hours.

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4 DIE IN HIGH-RISE FIRE
Chicago Sun-Times - January 18, 1996

What apparently drove residents to risk life and limb was dense, acrid smoke that filled the building and flames "so hot they melted steel," [Fire Commissioner Raymond] Orozco said.

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Repairs to damaged stadium include safety improvements
USA TODAY - Aug 3, 1993

The fire, linked to cooking fuel left unattended, destroyed eight suites. Also, smoke damaged the press box and press lounge and the booth where the scoreboard and video displays are operated. The intense heat melted steel beams, forcing temporary closing of the 1,700 seats.

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Mobile home park is ground zero of Calif. wildfire
USA Today, November 15, 2008

Powerful Santa Ana winds continued to beat down, carrying ash and twigs from the devastated landscape. Elegant cacti spewed smoke and mail boxes hung from charred posts. Cars and motorcycles were reduced to piles of ash and molten steel.


Perhaps Thermite is responsible for all the above? Were they all controlled demolitions? Maybe, all these stories were invented to mask the conspiracy? Maybe insanity is a by-product of too much "internet research(?)". laugh







yes, termites was used in all of these, planned by bush so could use it now against the CT'ers, who in turn would make up another wild fantasy about super-secret government weapons... they were all started by the microwave oven satellite...(so the people on the ISS can have some buttered popcorn) the one that melts engine blocks on cars, and blows up 110 story buildings...

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Sun 08/26/12 12:08 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/26/12 12:10 PM
The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years.

Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret."

You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?"

They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President.

So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs.

How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon.

Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive.

Are you claiming it does not exist?

The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court.

Wake up people.

Damn. frustrated

mightymoe's photo
Sun 08/26/12 12:22 PM

The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years.

Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret."

You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?"

They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President.

So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs.

How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon.

Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive.

Are you claiming it does not exist?

The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court.

Wake up people.

Damn. frustrated
i'll use your logic here... THERE IS NO PROOF of these "super-secret" weapons....

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Sun 08/26/12 12:24 PM


The government's new weapons are not so "super secret." They have been practicing with them for years.

Just because they don't blast this information all over the Major Media does not mean it is "super secret."

You have to know that there are many many super secret things hidden from us by the government, otherwise why would they have everything so "classified?"

They have top secret and many levels above top secret, and levels of top secret above the head of the President.

So NO, Bush himself knows very little. He basically does as he is told and is bribed with ways to make billions of dollars in the countries he invades and bombs.

How long have we been using microwave ovens? How long before that was microwave technology invented? Christ, you know if you have any common sense at all, that any new technology the government gets their hands on, the first thing they do is figure out a way to make it into a weapon.

Making fun of the governments' "super secret" weapons technology as if it does not exist is ludicrous and extremely naive.

Are you claiming it does not exist?

The government denied for years and years the very existence of area 51, even when people who worked there were trying to sue them in court.

Wake up people.

Damn. frustrated
i'll use your logic here... THERE IS NO PROOF of these "super-secret" weapons....




You would be wrong about that.

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Sun 08/26/12 12:28 PM
First, where there are weapons, there are victims being hit with them, and there are people using them. They were used in Iraq and other places.

Second, its on wiki- pedia.

Just a sample of the well known weapons:

A directed-energy weapon (DEW) emits energy in an aimed direction without the means of a projectile. It transfers energy to a target for a desired effect. Intended effects may be non-lethal or lethal. Some such weapons are real, or are under active research and development.

The energy can come in various forms:
Electromagnetic radiation, in lasers or masers
Particles with mass, in particle beam weapons (Technically a form of micro-projectile weapon)

Sound, in sonic weapons

Others are more in the "secret" and "classified" catagory.

But I am not allowed to talk about them.

they are classified.tongue2


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