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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 06/07/12 06:42 PM
That's probably why DNA evidence cannot be used in court. Any DNA evidence can be faked if the powerful elite set it up. Any signature can be notarized if the powerful elite set it up. Witness to the JFK assassination made statements and were told to shut up that it did not happen that way. Later they discovered their statements had been altered, rewritten and entered into official records and they were notarized. They claim they did not sign any of them! SOME PEOPLE ARE ABOVE THE LAW. That can do any damn thing they want. Don't be so naive and gullible, and don't show me your so-call media sources as proof. I know the truth and none of that means a damn thing.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 06/07/12 06:46 PM
So I suppose you are going to tell me that all of these people are related? Decedents of King David and the mythical Abraham?

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Thu 06/07/12 07:07 PM Edited by s1owhand on Thu 06/07/12 07:07 PM
There are Jews of all races and colors but that does not mean that they do not share genetic traits and ancestry. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100603/full/news.2010.277.html The researchers analysed single-letter differences in the genome called single nucleotide polymorphisms, longer segments of DNA shared between different Jewish groups, as well as deleted or duplicated stretches of DNA called copy-number variants. Although the groups had strong genetic commonalities, the results also showed a varying degree of genetic mixing with nearby non-Jewish populations. The most genetically distinct Jewish communities, compared both to other Jewish groups and to nearby non-Jews, were those from Iran and Iraq. “We really see the events of the Jewish diaspora in the genomes of Jewish people.” The study provides a genetic basis for confirming or debunking theories of Jewish origin and history, says Ostrer. For example, one theory proposes that Ashkenazi Jews (of eastern European origin) are largely descended from Khazars in eastern Europe who converted to Judaism, but the genetic closeness between Ashkenazi Jews and other non-European Jews does not support this idea. The study also highlights how genetics can reflect history, Ostrer says, including evidence of the dispersal of Jewish populations throughout the Middle East and Europe. "We really see the events of the Jewish diaspora in the genomes of Jewish people." http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/06/03/the-dna-of-abraham-s-children.html The DNA of Abraham’s Children Jun 2, 2010 8:00 PM EDT Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 06/07/12 07:25 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/07/12 07:26 PM
I think posting it one time is sufficient. It's the best you got? And you believe it? What a crock!! People should wake up and realize that those who call themselves Jews and don't really practice Judaism.... aren't Jews. And they certainly are not related to anyone named Abraham or Kind David. They are FICTIONAL CHARACTERS MADE UP. SO WHO ARE THEY? You will never find out from them because they have been denying who they are for centuries.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Fri 06/08/12 03:06 AM
You can try to deny the genetic DNA evidence all you like and you will only be chasing your tail. Your so-called Khazarian Jew conspiracy is just a log of hogwash made up by antisemites who wish to somehow deligitimize Jews who were not killed in the Holocaust by the Nazis. This has shown to be false by DNA analysis. The Jews from Europe and all over the world share a common middle eastern genetic heritage because their common ancestors came from Israel. Linda Chavez for example was found to have such a component in her genetic makeup through such DNA analysis and her family tree was traced back to Jews who underwent forced conversion to Christianity during the Inquisition. Jews from all over the world are related genetically and culturally and through their common religious beliefs and through their ties to their original homeland in Israel. So what big deal.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 03:15 AM
So I suppose you are going to tell me that all of these people are related? Decedents of King David and the mythical Abraham? Even Edward Bernays [The Father of Propaganda] couldn't pull that one out of the Hat.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 06:20 AM
Up to Date Facts. According to the Israel Prison Service, there were about 4424 Palestinian prisoners and security detainees being held in Israeli prisons as of the end of April 2012. According to prisoners’ rights organization Addameer, there were 4653 Palestinians imprisoned by Israel as of May 1, 2012. Since 1967, Israel has imprisoned upwards of 700,000 Palestinians from the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, or about 20% of the total population of the occupied territories. Those who are charged are subjected to Israeli military courts that human rights organizations have criticized for failing to meet the minimum standards required for a fair trial. According to Amnesty International’s 2011 Annual Report on Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories: “Palestinians in the [occupied territories] subject to Israel’s military justice system continued to face a wide range of abuses of their right to a fair trial. They are routinely interrogated without a lawyer and, although they are civilians, are tried before military not ordinary courts.”

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 06/08/12 07:52 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 06/08/12 07:57 AM
Who are the Ashkenazi anglo Jews who falsely claim Palestine to be their original ancestral homeland? They are Europeans. They are a people who totally deny their true identity and origins. European Jewry in its entirety totally denies its own European origin. It is interesting to notice that the European Ashkenazi Jewry would refer to non-Anglo Jews as 'Iranian Jews', 'Yemeni Jews', 'Egyptian Jews', 'Moroccan Jews', 'Algerian Jews'. But it almost never is the case that the European Jew is identified with an adjective such as 'European Jew' or 'Ashkenazi Jew' or 'Khazaric Jew'. They are simply referred to as 'Jews' and that is deliberately done to hide their European origins and to shift that origin to Palestine. It is so shaming! It is in fact shameful for a people to totally disown its own roots, its own heritages, and its own customs and steal someone else's. And only Euro-Jewry does and no other people on Earth. The Zulu is proud to be a Zulu and so is the Eskimo and the Yemeni and the Nigerian. The only group who exhibits shame in disclosing their true origins is the European Ashkenazi Jewry! There can never be peace on earth until the Ashkenazi Khazaric people understand that they did not bust out of rocks but out of a region in Europe that used to be called 'Khazaria'. Once they accept their identity, they may then begin to reactivate their dead language of Khazaria the same way they resuscitated a Middle Eastern language of Hebrew and stole it by claiming it to be their ancestral language, the same claim as when they stole Palestine. Conversion to a religion does not also convert once biologic makeup or ancestral heritage. Euro-Jewry's heritage is that of Khazaria! And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article. http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6 And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract: =-=-=-= Abstract For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. =-=-=-= Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is a fact. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466 and all the Revisionism of you Guys can change that!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 06/08/12 07:53 AM
So I suppose you are going to tell me that all of these people are related? Decedents of King David and the mythical Abraham? Even Edward Bernays [The Father of Propaganda] couldn't pull that one out of the Hat. More Revisionism?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 08:40 AM
- TORTURE & ABUSE - Until 1999, the use of torture by Israeli military and security forces was both widespread and officially condoned under the euphemism of “moderate physical pressure.” Methods included beatings, forcing prisoners into painful physical positions for long periods of time, and sleep deprivation. In 2000 it was revealed that between 1988 and 1992 Israel’s internal security force, the Shin Bet, had systematically tortured Palestinians during the first, mostly nonviolent, uprising against Israel’s occupation, using methods that went beyond what was allowable under government guidelines for “moderate physical pressure.” These methods included violent shaking, tying prisoners into painful positions for long periods, subjecting them to extreme heat or cold, and severe beatings, including kicking. At least 10 Palestinians died and hundreds of others were maimed as a result. In 1999, the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that the use of “moderate physical pressure” was illegal, however reports of torture and abuse of Palestinian prisoners continued unabated. Amnesty International’s 2011 Annual Report on Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories states: 'Consistent allegations of torture and other ill-treatment, including of children, were frequently reported. Among the most commonly cited methods were beatings, threats to the detainee or their family, sleep deprivation, and being subjected to painful stress positions for long periods. Confessions allegedly obtained under duress were accepted as evidence in Israeli military and civilian courts.' Other abusive practices employed by Israel against Palestinian prisoners include the use of solitary confinement, denial of family visits, and forcing prisoners to live in unsanitary living conditions. The harsh conditions endured by Palestinians in Israeli prisons prompted a series of hunger strikes, including a mass hunger strike by more than 1500 prisoners in early 2012 leading to some concessions from Israel. The concessions reportedly included an end to long-term isolation of prisoners for “security” reasons and allowing family visits for prisoners from Gaza.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 08:48 AM
TORTURE & ABUSE Dick Cheney Definition... ........Enhanced Interrogation Techniques Binyamin Netanyahu Definition....“Moderate Physical Pressure.” I prefer to stick with The Really Old-Fashioned Name of Torture

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 06/08/12 10:46 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/08/12 10:52 AM
Who are the Ashkenazi anglo Jews who falsely claim Palestine to be their original ancestral homeland? They are Europeans. They are a people who totally deny their true identity and origins. European Jewry in its entirety totally denies its own European origin. It is interesting to notice that the European Ashkenazi Jewry would refer to non-Anglo Jews as 'Iranian Jews', 'Yemeni Jews', 'Egyptian Jews', 'Moroccan Jews', 'Algerian Jews'. But it almost never is the case that the European Jew is identified with an adjective such as 'European Jew' or 'Ashkenazi Jew' or 'Khazaric Jew'. They are simply referred to as 'Jews' and that is deliberately done to hide their European origins and to shift that origin to Palestine. It is so shaming! It is in fact shameful for a people to totally disown its own roots, its own heritages, and its own customs and steal someone else's. And only Euro-Jewry does and no other people on Earth. The Zulu is proud to be a Zulu and so is the Eskimo and the Yemeni and the Nigerian. The only group who exhibits shame in disclosing their true origins is the European Ashkenazi Jewry! There can never be peace on earth until the Ashkenazi Khazaric people understand that they did not bust out of rocks but out of a region in Europe that used to be called 'Khazaria'. Once they accept their identity, they may then begin to reactivate their dead language of Khazaria the same way they resuscitated a Middle Eastern language of Hebrew and stole it by claiming it to be their ancestral language, the same claim as when they stole Palestine. Conversion to a religion does not also convert once biologic makeup or ancestral heritage. Euro-Jewry's heritage is that of Khazaria! And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article. http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6 And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract: =-=-=-= Abstract For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. =-=-=-= Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is a fact. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466 and all the Revisionism of you Guys can change that! Your link exposes itself as biased for two reasons. It is not scientific because it begins with the mention of a fictional character Abraham. "Abraham's Children......." Secondly it exposes itself as biased because it uses the term "Diaspora." "This word is used profusely by Euro-Jewry and it is never challenged! What is meant by 'the Jews in the Diaspora'? It simply is intended to mean all Jews [black, brown and white] who do not reside on Arab Palestine. The European Khazars who now have adopted the name of 'Jews' are "in the Diaspora" even while residing on their very original habitat of what used to be called 'Khazaria'. They are considered to be "in the Diaspora" even after having resided in America, Canada, Germany, France, and England for generations; because they do not believe that the countries where these Ashkenazi Jews reside as their countries but rather as host countries. So it's a crock! Your link has been exposed as being created by European Jews (Khazars.) They are the only people who use the term "Diaspora." So naturally that "evidence" is compromised and bias. Not to be believed. It is not to be believed because Euro Zionist Jews will do anything to deny their true ancestry. They are not from Arab Palestine. If you look at any Euro Jew you can tell they are European, unless you are blind.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 06/08/12 11:00 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/08/12 11:18 AM
What I would like to know is why would European Jews want so desperately to hide their own origins? Also why do so many of these same European Jews claim to be Jews when they do not practice Judaism at all? They are pretending to be Jews when it comes to the religion and they are denying where their ancestors are really from. Any of them who claim to be descendants of King David and Abraham are either lying or fooling themselves because these are characters that cannot even be proven to have ever lived. They are fictional characters. Invented characters. The European Jews trying to colonize Palestine are invaders. There ancestors never lived there. They are perpetrating a hoax on Christians everywhere who believe and support them because of the mythical stories in the Bible that are simply not true. The three Abrahamic religions grew out of a hoax and a fiction.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 06/08/12 11:15 AM
Invaders and conquerors have been invading and conquering from the beginning of human civilization. It is nothing unusual. But how many of these conquerors go to such lengths to pretend to be something they are not? None do except the European Jew' or 'Ashkenazi Jew.' This means their first priority and policy is to lie and deceive. Many famous Euro Jews have changed their names so as not to not give them away as being a European Jew.

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Fri 06/08/12 11:18 AM
God...I know we are your chosen people...but couldn't you choose somebody else for a change?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 11:37 AM
God...I know we are your chosen people...but couldn't you choose somebody else for a change? Who else is occupying Palestine?

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 12:03 PM
Administrative Detention or Imprisoned without Charge or Trial. Another example of abuse of Language. The Language gets softer as The Police State Gets Tougher. Israel has even Administratively Detained CHILDREN...Fact B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories Administrative Detention Administrative detention is detention without charge or trial that is authorized by administrative order rather than by judicial decree. Under international law, it is allowed under certain circumstances. However, because of the serious injury to due-process rights inherent in this measure and the obvious danger of its abuse, international law has placed rigid restrictions on its application. According to international law, administrative detention can be used only in the most exceptional cases, as the last means available for preventing danger that cannot be thwarted by less harmful means. Israel's use of administrative detention blatantly violates these restrictions. It is carried out under the thick cover of privilege, which denies detainees the possibility of mounting a proper defense. Over the years, Israel has administratively detained thousands of Palestinian for prolonged periods of time, without prosecuting them, without informing them of the charges against them, and without allowing them or their attorneys to study the evidence, making a mockery of the protections specified in Israeli and international law to protect the right to liberty and due process, the right of defendants to state their case, and the presumption of innocence.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 06/08/12 12:34 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/08/12 12:46 PM
You can try to deny the genetic DNA evidence all you like and you will only be chasing your tail. I don't "deny" your fabricated evidence. I challenge it. I claim that it is fabricated, faked by the Euro Jews who invented it in an effort to cloud the issue of their true ancestral Khararian roots. Your so-called Khazarian Jew conspiracy is just a log of hogwash made up by antisemites who wish to somehow deligitimize Jews who were not killed in the Holocaust by the Nazis. One cannot be anti-Semitic against a non-Semitic European people. The expression dates back only about one hundred years and it was an expression of European people's biases against their very own European Jews. It did not apply to Jews outside of Europe as the historical evidence suggested that Arab Jews, Arab Christians and Arab Muslims lived in relative harmony in the Arab region and there were no pogroms against non-European Jews anywhere outside of Europe. European Jews do love the expression of anti-Semitic because the word 'Semitic' is related to the Middle Eastern region, and anything that would hopefully connect the European Ashkenazi Jews to Palestine is highly desired by Euro-Jewry. The word 'Semitic' does not apply to people but to languages of the Middle Eastern and East African region such as Arabic, Amharic, Tigrina, and Hebrew. Hebrew was a language spoken in ancient times in the Arab region but European Khazars who later came to be known as 'Jews' adopted the Hebrew language along with the religion after converting to Judaism in the 9th century. This has shown to be false by DNA analysis. The Jews from Europe and all over the world share a common middle eastern genetic heritage because their common ancestors came from Israel. And all DNA of every human on earth can be traced back to Africa, which is very near that area. So what? That study is meaningless. Linda Chavez for example was found to have such a component in her genetic makeup through such DNA analysis and her family tree was traced back to Jews who underwent forced conversion to Christianity during the Inquisition. People who "convert" to another religious belief "by force" don't hold much conviction in their faith to begin with. They are just hiding out. The European Jews converted to Judaism for strategic and military purposes, not because they believed in it. Jews from all over the world are related genetically and culturally and through their common religious beliefs and through their ties to their original homeland in Israel. So what big deal. Not all Jews are related genetically, and not all people who practice Judaism are accepted as "Jewish" by Israel. Zionist Israel wants the tribe of Euro Jews to move to Israel. They don't want the black and brown skinned Jews. White skinned European Jews original homeland is Europe not Israel. I don't believe they are related "genetically" to these other dark skinned Jews.

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Fri 06/08/12 01:09 PM Edited by s1owhand on Fri 06/08/12 01:32 PM
And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article. http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6 And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract: =-=-=-= Abstract For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. =-=-=-= Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is a fact. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466 and all the Revisionism of you Guys can change that!

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Fri 06/08/12 01:19 PM Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 06/08/12 01:20 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THEFT & DESTRUCTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< After taking control of the occupied territories in 1967, Israel began to exploit their natural resources. Most critically in the semi-arid region, Israel began to exploit aquifers and other water sources. According to international law, including Article 55 of the Hague Regulations, an occupying power is prohibited from using an occupied territory's natural resources for its own benefit. An occupying power may only use resources in an occupied territory for military necessity or for the benefit of the occupied population. Thus, Israel’s exploitation of Palestinian resources such as water for use in Jewish settlements and inside Israel proper is a clear breach of international law, a position supported by human rights organizations such as Amnesty International. Despite this clear prohibition, in December 2011, in response to a petition filed by Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din, the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that Israeli companies could continue exploiting Palestinian resources in the occupied territories.