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Forgive but never forget.
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I forgive people to lessen the stored tension, more or less. Nothing worse than feeling angry at the person you banned yourself from speaking to. It's like i miss our inside jokes we shared together. It always feels good to share that again with said person.
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How do we learn to forgive? how have you MADE youself REALLY forgive someone when you thought you never could? What did you tell yourself to convince yourself? What did you do after forgiving - ever backslide???? I guess it gets to the point that whatever happened And who it was no longer matter to you , Like you no longer Think about it , I mean it's still there but doesn't make you lose Sleep or anything ... I don't know if I have forgiven those who Did me wrong , All I know is It doesn't bother me nor I give A f@ck about them. |
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Here's an example of forgiveness, the driver that ran me and my friend off road will be paying for the whole thing, and he is being held responsible for his actions. Me and my friend will do what we have to do to make sure he does.
Do I hate the driver, or have any ill feelings toward him? No, I forgive him for his wrong doing, but you better believe he will pay for what he has done. |
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If it's someone I love I can forgive them if it means that not to would only make matters worse. To dwell on something and keep bringing it up and fighting over it sometimes is just not worth what it puts you through. I can know I was right and keep that to myself. But to forget is an entirely different thing. I don't forget easily when I'm hurt. That can be a good thing as you learn things from that to keep it from happening again. But sometimes....you're in a situation where you just know it's still going to happen again and again. It may take years of you forgiving but eventually it makes you strong enough that you finally can reach the point of changing the situation. By not forgetting you can prepare yourself over time. If it's someone I don't love....different story. I go by the fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Once in a while I'll give them a three strikes you're out if they mean a little more to me.
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I had a really awful ex boyfriend. But I don't really forgive, I just ignore. I have had friends want to go after him and I tell them, "My love of YOU exceeds my hatred of HIM and he is such a worthless manatee of a human being in my eyes, YOU so much as getting arrested or having to explain to the cops is not worth it". I mean if my friends beat him up, he'd be like "Oh poor me. Terri's mean old friend beat me up for NO REASON". I decided rather than forgive people like that to look at them as just pathetic and ignore and move on.
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Hummm to me to forgive someone is more for me then them...... One must be able to get past the bad in order to move on.
If you hold a grudge it just fester's and at times creates more problems.... I may forgive but I don't forget what they did. Just figured they are not worth wasting my time on them.. Those that do me wrong even though I may forgive them I do not let them stay within my life...... I have forgave before and let them remain a friend only to find they repeated what they did. Second time was a charm for me.... I learn from it and move on like a stepping stone in life....ya learn and move on leaving the bad in the past and look forward to what the future holds... |
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Forgiving to me is ...Not telling the story anymore in a negative way...letting it die. I tell myself to try and not go, in my mind, to the pain of what happened in the past. Instead I look at it as, what did I learn from it that made me a better person today.
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Would always (eventually) forgive as I only want the people I care about (and other junk ) in my head space.
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i think apologizing and forgiveness are 2 sides of the same coin
i know that the mistakes i make only affect me because they are pittiful yet annoying .....harmless and stupid ....so i cannot apologize if i haven't done anything wrong being harmful to a human being...even so if im wrong i admit it and apologize for it/flip-side is i know people that made mistakes with me and i never heard them apologize for it and never will and i only accept genuinely made apologies ....that has everything to do with my ability to forgive i suppose ....im not very good at it but flip-side is i haven't done anything to be forgiven for(nothing major) BUT rather i am the person who bears the benefit of my choice to forgive because i had big wrongs done to me.....so a lot of times these tend to be pretty big things ...but to put it accurately i just have no desire,purpose,reason even the slightest bit of encouragement to forgive because i see it like this,i think people repeat their actions ...so in forgiving is always our choice but if you choose to do it then id say your going to get that Deja vu effect ...i may be wrong but thats what i think |
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I think I forgive to easily. Especially if it is someone I loved that hurt me.
It is not really something I choose to do it is just something that comes from inside me. However I tend not to forget what the hurt was or who caused it. At times the results of that pain makes me fearful of giving a part of myself again. But life is to short to dwell on the bad things that happen. I prefer to remember the good. |
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"for hates sake,I spit my last breath at thee"(moby dick)
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I agree with Krupa to an extent. The people themselves are not worth it. However.......... I AM. I forgive because I'm not gonna carry bitterness, resentment and hatred around with me. I have seen well what that does to people. I don't have to like 'em. I don't have to associate with 'em I just forgive'em. For my Own good..... Not theirs. |
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Forgiveness sometimes me a fool but i love to be a fools, it made me who i am today.
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i also want to say that i think just because a person chooses not to forgive doesn't necessarily mean they are carrying any hate around ...i think it just goes to mean that they know that to forgive that person(s)wouldn't be worth forgiving ...like i said reason,purpose and desire there has to be a reason to ...that reason is really up to the wrong doer ...i think no one would knowingly do something to bring a situation they rather avoid to themselves...just doesn't make sense ...it also means respecting our self's as well as others
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I guess it just depends on what and who I need to forgive.
Also sometimes what may be perceived as forgiveness may actually just be apathy towards the person and the situation. |
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Edited by
RavenousSin
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Fri 03/09/12 03:12 PM
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Realize that holding onto hateful or negative energy is only damaging to yourself. More than likely, whoever you can't forgive isn't nearly as affected (if at all) by things as you yourself.
I think of forgiveness as being for myself. I might as well enjoy life and holding on to negative things is not enjoying life. Doesn't clear the person of what they did and it doesn't make them a friend or anything good. It's to release your own hatred, spite, or whatever the **** is there in order to avoid becoming consumed by it. It's finding a sense of peace. |
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I agree with Krupa to an extent. The people themselves are not worth it. However.......... I AM. I forgive because I'm not gonna carry bitterness, resentment and hatred around with me. I have seen well what that does to people. I don't have to like 'em. I don't have to associate with 'em I just forgive'em. For my Own good..... Not theirs. YES! |
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Whether I can forgive or not depends on the transgression against me or someone I care about, the reason behind it, and the sincerity and extent of corrective action or apology by the transgressor. There will always be some change to the relationship. Trust is an easy thing to damage and a difficult thing to re-earn.
There have been and probably will be again situations that I can not forgive, there are people that are no longer a part of my life because of there actions. I do not carry around a hatred for these people they are simply not a part of my life any more. And in some extremely rare situations it has and may again become necessary to apply the simple principle that I must sometimes live by: "I don't get mad, I get even!" |
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How do we learn to forgive? how have you MADE youself REALLY forgive someone when you thought you never could? What did you tell yourself to convince yourself? What did you do after forgiving - ever backslide???? My Father beat me and was a constant yelling voice at me,,as a child growing..Yet because HE drank when he did that,,I was able to KNOW,,that altered substances in SOME PEOPLE,,make them CHANGE who they normally live as..SO in those two ideas of reason and witness,,I told myself and God,,I'd never grow to be abusive or a drunk,,and I have lived to not be that,,and IF ever I felt I was even a small tad bit in his reflections,,I found ME,,quickly and never looked back at him. SO knowing the pain he caused me was a very long time of trying to figure out why,,and as a boy I prayed him dead many times,,yet,,growing into my manhood,,and knowing I could hurt him,,he THEN,,was forgiven inside me as to know and see him,,weak,,old,,and without the respect or love from his family to have inside him,,and THAT was in my thoughts,,enough for him to be shown to know as for ALL he had done to my siblings and Mother...I was at peace and at one with my own identity,,all through me facing him,,and telling him,,he was nothing now for me to ever fear...I forgave him,,but shall always know his or ANYONE'S damages they can do through their abuses or their substances to do,,THAT change them.... I have forgiven everyone in my life for ANYTHING they have ever did against me... Because to LIVE WITH HATE,,,,makes HATE LIVE within YOU! Releasing THAT ANGER,,and finding the courage to embrace forgiveness,,is just to become MORE of a real person to all around you and within you... |
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