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URGENT: One student was killed and five were wounded during a shooting early Monday at an Ohio high school, authorities said. A suspect, whose name has not been released, is in police custody.
Civil deputy Erin Knife with the Geauga County Sheriff's Office said the shooting was reported around 7:30 a.m. Monday at Chardon High School. The suspected gunman, believed to be a student, fled the school on foot and was later apprehended after turning himself in. Authorities have not released the juvenile's name because he has not been charged yet. Law enforcement officials said earlier that three of the shooting victims are in critical condition, while one victim is in stable condition. The victims have not yet been identified. The situation is under control and an FBI SWAT team is on the scene, police said. A parent waiting outside the school told the station that her daughter sent her a text message, saying the shooting took place inside the cafeteria. Another student reported hearing a total of five shots fired, the station reported. Student Heather Ziska, who was just feet away when the gunman opened fire, said a normal morning was interrupted by strange sounds in a hallway, then the sight of the gunman beginning to shoot. The 17-year-old junior said she and other students began hearing popping noises in a nearby hallway. Ziska said she then saw a boy with a gun who she recognized as a fellow student come into the cafeteria and start shooting. She said she and several others immediately ran outside, while other friends ran into a middle school and others locked themselves in a teachers' lounge. The wounded students were reportedly airlifted to local hospitals. The 1,100-student high school is about 30 miles east of Cleveland. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/27/ohio-high-school-on-lockdown-after-reports-shooting/#ixzz1nbWDOkag |
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need more Gunfree Zones!
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need more Gunfree Zones! They need armed school police at every school. |
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need more Gunfree Zones! They need armed school police at every school. ie if I was a teacher Id want to be strapped. |
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need more Gunfree Zones! They need armed school police at every school. Total waste of money. . . and they need to allow law abiding citizens who normally can carry to carry. ie if I was a teacher Id want to be strapped. Best solution. |
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need more Gunfree Zones! They need armed school police at every school. ie if I was a teacher Id want to be strapped. |
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This by Ted Nugent,somewhat of a Nut,but I agree with him on this Issue!
WACO, Texas (CNN) -- Zero tolerance, huh? Gun-free zones, huh? Try this on for size: Columbine gun-free zone, New York City pizza shop gun-free zone, Luby's Cafeteria gun-free zone, Amish school in Pennsylvania gun-free zone and now Virginia Tech gun-free zone. Anybody see what the evil Brady Campaign and other anti-gun cults have created? I personally have zero tolerance for evil and denial. And America had best wake up real fast that the brain-dead celebration of unarmed helplessness will get you killed every time, and I've about had enough of it. Nearly a decade ago, a Springfield, Oregon, high schooler, a hunter familiar with firearms, was able to bring an unfolding rampage to an abrupt end when he identified a gunman attempting to reload his .22-caliber rifle, made the tactical decision to make a move and tackled the shooter. A few years back, an assistant principal at Pearl High School in Mississippi, which was a gun-free zone, retrieved his legally owned Colt .45 from his car and stopped a Columbine wannabe from continuing his massacre at another school after he had killed two and wounded more at Pearl. At an eighth-grade school dance in Pennsylvania, a boy fatally shot a teacher and wounded two students before the owner of the dance hall brought the killing to a halt with his own gun. More recently, just a few miles up the road from Virginia Tech, two law school students ran to fetch their legally owned firearm to stop a madman from slaughtering anybody and everybody he pleased. These brave, average, armed citizens neutralized him pronto. My hero, Dr. Suzanne Gratia Hupp, was not allowed by Texas law to carry her handgun into Luby's Cafeteria that fateful day in 1991, when due to bureaucrat-forced unarmed helplessness she could do nothing to stop satanic George Hennard from killing 23 people and wounding more than 20 others before he shot himself. Hupp was unarmed for no other reason than denial-ridden "feel good" politics. She has since led the charge for concealed weapon upgrade in Texas, where we can now stop evil. Yet, there are still the mindless puppets of the Brady Campaign and other anti-gun organizations insisting on continuing the gun-free zone insanity by which innocents are forced into unarmed helplessness. Shame on them. Shame on America. Shame on the anti-gunners all. No one was foolish enough to debate Ryder truck regulations or ammonia nitrate restrictions or a "cult of agriculture fertilizer" following the unabashed evil of Timothy McVeigh's heinous crime against America on that fateful day in Oklahoma City. No one faulted kitchen utensils or other hardware of choice after Jeffrey Dahmer was caught drugging, mutilating, raping, murdering and cannibalizing his victims. Nobody wanted "steak knife control" as they autopsied the dead nurses in Chicago, Illinois, as Richard Speck went on trial for mass murder. Evil is as evil does, and laws disarming guaranteed victims make evil people very, very happy. Shame on us. |
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Already spineless gun control advocates are squawking like chickens with their tiny-brained heads chopped off, making political hay over this most recent, devastating Virginia Tech massacre, when in fact it is their own forced gun-free zone policy that enabled the unchallenged methodical murder of 32 people.
Thirty-two people dead on a U.S. college campus pursuing their American Dream, mowed-down over an extended period of time by a lone, non-American gunman in possession of a firearm on campus in defiance of a zero-tolerance gun ban. Feel better yet? Didn't think so. Who doesn't get this? Who has the audacity to demand unarmed helplessness? Who likes dead good guys? I'll tell you who. People who tramp on the Second Amendment, that's who. People who refuse to accept the self-evident truth that free people have the God-given right to keep and bear arms, to defend themselves and their loved ones. People who are so desperate in their drive to control others, so mindless in their denial that they pretend access to gas causes arson, Ryder trucks and fertilizer cause terrorism, water causes drowning, forks and spoons cause obesity, dialing 911 will somehow save your life, and that their greedy clamoring to "feel good" is more important than admitting that armed citizens are much better equipped to stop evil than unarmed, helpless ones. Pray for the families of victims everywhere, America. Study the methodology of evil. It has a profile, a system, a preferred environment where victims cannot fight back. Embrace the facts, demand upgrade and be certain that your children's school has a better plan than Virginia Tech or Columbine. Eliminate the insanity of gun-free zones, which will never, ever be gun-free zones. They will only be good guy gun-free zones, and that is a recipe for disaster written in blood on the altar of denial. I, for one, refuse to genuflect there. |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 02/27/12 11:23 AM
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Most Gun control laws are pro crime laws.
1 simple fact. Those against guns secretly feel inept, they feel that they cannot control the dangerous object, and since we human beings project our feelings outward to the reset of humanity it then becomes a conclusion in the mind of the Anti2A that no one can safety use firearms. I recently had a long conversation with such a person. My mother. She has been coming around lately due to some circumstances that were truly out of her control. When the world feels safe, the person has no need to think about protection. It is only when the world does not feel safe that we question our abilities, choose to learn new strategies, and gain competence. This is true of more than just gun control. This is the same relationship we have with automobiles. As a kid 15 years old learning to drive is a daunting task, and becuase it is 100% necessary we work to achieve the competencies to render this dangerous object safe. Every dangerous thing we control in our lives once felt scary, but as we gain competence we gain control, and as we gain control we feel safe. The gun reaches new levels of this relationship however. It can not only be used safety, it can be used to promote safety. http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_van_uhm_why_i_chose_a_gun.html This ted talks is not about gun rights, its about the relationship to a peaceful society that guns necessarily play the key role. Gun control advocates do not feel safe using the gun itself because of a lack of competency. So instead they seek to control the guns through laws, the problem is that laws are a social honor system, not a way to directly control the behavior. We can only control our own behaviors, laws only offer a way to punish after the fact. Thus laws only control the law abiding, when what we need is a way to stop the crime while it takes place, ie we need guns to control violent situations directly. |
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Most Gun control laws are pro crime laws. |
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need more Gunfree Zones! They need armed school police at every school. Total waste of money. . . and they need to allow law abiding citizens who normally can carry to carry. ie if I was a teacher Id want to be strapped. Best solution. Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. |
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I am surprised at how quickly an FBI swat team was on site and searching the school...........
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 02/27/12 12:45 PM
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Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. ie useless in these kinds of situations.
Also I dont know about the school you went to, but mine was small ~ 300-400 students and we had 1 officer, and 1 security person. The sad truth is either we make schools prisons, or we bring back personal responsibility and remove the predator zones . . . oh I mean gun free zones. |
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Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. ie useless in these kinds of situations.
Also I dont know about the school you went to, but mine was small ~ 300-400 students and we had 1 officer, and 1 security person. The sad truth is either we make schools prisons, or we bring back personal responsibility and remove the predator zones . . . oh I mean gun free zones. One of the high schools I went to had like 300 people total. We had one actual school cop, he even had a police car with the flashing lights to pull people over. Every school no matter the size can have that. |
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Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. ie useless in these kinds of situations.
Also I dont know about the school you went to, but mine was small ~ 300-400 students and we had 1 officer, and 1 security person. The sad truth is either we make schools prisons, or we bring back personal responsibility and remove the predator zones . . . oh I mean gun free zones. One of the high schools I went to had like 300 people total. We had one actual school cop, he even had a police car with the flashing lights to pull people over. Every school no matter the size can have that. That just means we'll have a larger, more bloated police state. We need fewer police officers and more armed citizens who are ready and willing to protect their community. |
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Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. ie useless in these kinds of situations.
Also I dont know about the school you went to, but mine was small ~ 300-400 students and we had 1 officer, and 1 security person. The sad truth is either we make schools prisons, or we bring back personal responsibility and remove the predator zones . . . oh I mean gun free zones. One of the high schools I went to had like 300 people total. We had one actual school cop, he even had a police car with the flashing lights to pull people over. Every school no matter the size can have that. That just means we'll have a larger, more bloated police state. We need fewer police officers and more armed citizens who are ready and willing to protect their community. No it doesn't. School police officers have NO jurisdiction off school property. |
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Mon 02/27/12 01:56 PM
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Ummmmmm, every school has school police or security. They just arn't all armed. ie useless in these kinds of situations.
Also I dont know about the school you went to, but mine was small ~ 300-400 students and we had 1 officer, and 1 security person. The sad truth is either we make schools prisons, or we bring back personal responsibility and remove the predator zones . . . oh I mean gun free zones. One of the high schools I went to had like 300 people total. We had one actual school cop, he even had a police car with the flashing lights to pull people over. Every school no matter the size can have that. That just means we'll have a larger, more bloated police state. We need fewer police officers and more armed citizens who are ready and willing to protect their community. The purpose of me showing the ratio of "security" to students is to show that it would have been impossible for the 2 men to protect the 300 spread out over 10 acres of land, a small school and still it wouldn't matter. A person of 18 years old should be able to be armed at all times every-were. My opinion. No it doesn't. School police officers have NO jurisdiction off school property. lol. He is not talking about school police creating a NWO or anything like that lol, he is talking about the standard knee jerk reaction to subvert more of our personal responsibility to the government.
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This one hits close to home being it is a few miles away. I have been to sporting events there know parents who live their. A real tragedy for all. The kid twittered his intentions yesterday but no one believed him.
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This one hits close to home being it is a few miles away. I have been to sporting events there know parents who live their. A real tragedy for all. The kid twittered his intentions yesterday but no one believed him. It should have raised some sort of alarm. Plus kids were saying earlier there were two shooters. |
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