Topic: Jesus walks also...
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Thu 02/16/12 07:28 PM


One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 02/16/12 07:40 PM
"to claim that man created something that God didn't, would mean that God is not the creator of everything"


God is still creating.

God did not create faith.

It came with him.

God created all things that are listed in the bible except one.

The Abyss.

That he moved upon.

As we can see now with our tools (gained by an exercise of Free Will)...

The Abyss is quite large and beyond it but chaos.

Yet is Gods Glory Great.

for God moves now Beyond the Chaos.

and is greater than the Heavens...

For I can see into the Abyss and only Gods Breath do I feel.

but as yet not see beyond the Chaos but God moves there also and I am content.

For he is with me.

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Thu 02/16/12 09:29 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 02/16/12 09:35 PM
God finished creating on the sixth day and rested

on the seventh day...

But God made all things to continue on ,by making all

things to reproduce after its own kind.

......

Eve came from the rib or side of Adam, NOT the womb of

Adam...the ribcage is hollowed out like a womb..but again, Eve

did not come from the womb of Adam...God did not create man

with a womb...only WOman( one with the womb)...otherwise man

woud still have a womb today.


:heart::heart::heart:

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 02/17/12 03:23 AM

God finished creating on the sixth day and rested

on the seventh day...

But God made all things to continue on ,by making all

things to reproduce after its own kind.

......

Eve came from the rib or side of Adam, NOT the womb of

Adam...the ribcage is hollowed out like a womb..but again, Eve

did not come from the womb of Adam...God did not create man

with a womb...only WOman( one with the womb)...otherwise man

woud still have a womb today.


:heart::heart::heart:

He does.

Eve.


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Fri 02/17/12 07:03 AM
Edited by funches on Fri 02/17/12 07:04 AM

To be 'sad' isn't a human-based emotion.
Dogs, cats, any other animal can be 'sad'.
Therefore, who's to claim that 'human's' were the first to show 'grief'?


I'm going by what is in the bible...this way I don't have to whine up in silly arguments with Christians or you

therefore if the bible claim that God had grief....then God had grief and the bottom line is that is the bible "humanizing" God

for you to then attempt to regulate the level of God's grief or that cats get sad, is when the argument gets ridiculous

also I've notice that you have a somewhat disturbing fixation about Cats

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Fri 02/17/12 07:09 AM


To be 'sad' isn't a human-based emotion.
Dogs, cats, any other animal can be 'sad'.
Therefore, who's to claim that 'human's' were the first to show 'grief'?


I'm going by what is in the bible...this way I don't have to whine up in silly arguments with Christians or you

therefore if the bible claim that God had grief....then God had grief and the bottom line is that is the bible "humanizing" God

for you to then attempt to regulate the level of God's grief or that cats get sad, is when the argument gets ridiculous

also I've notice that you have a somewhat disturbing fixation about Cats


Why wouldn't God feel greif? We are made in his image, do you not feel greif?

Greif = being saddened.

God has the emotion love, we all know this. "For God so LOVED the world, he gave his only begotten son". So if God has the emotion of love, why would he not have the emotion of greif? The two almost go hand in hand. Someone/something will not give you grief or make you sad if you do not first love that person or thing.

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Fri 02/17/12 07:24 AM

I can never follow Funches train of thought, I just gave up trying. Sometimes I will be reading and be like, YEA!!! . . then out of nowhere Im like . . . WOAHHH, I'am lost.




Bushidobillyclub, you generally give up trying to follow my train of thought whenever it conflicts with your hidden religious beliefs

case in point is when we had that Cosmological Argument...for you or anyone that claim to be more towards science then religion to say that the psychology of a God as to why it would create the Universe is irrevelant as to "first cause"...would be insane unless the person had a hidden religious agenda

the same as when Einstein's claim that nothing can travel faster than light...he was placing light into the same realm as God ..when it's clear that even light has rules that it must follow

religious beliefs always find a way to stagnate the conscious mind


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Fri 02/17/12 07:30 AM



One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding


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Fri 02/17/12 07:57 AM




One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.

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Fri 02/17/12 08:05 AM





One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth

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Fri 02/17/12 08:21 AM






One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth


lol you're funny Funches. Or are you going to claim that a woman's DNA is the exact same as a man's DNA? If their DNA would have been the exact same, they would have been the exact same being, a duplicate. There would have been no difference in genders or anything.

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Fri 02/17/12 09:46 AM







One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth


lol you're funny Funches. Or are you going to claim that a woman's DNA is the exact same as a man's DNA? If their DNA would have been the exact same, they would have been the exact same being, a duplicate. There would have been no difference in genders or anything.


I'm saying that a woman formed from a Man's body part would have the same genetic markers and/or genetic traits as the donor which would signify that they are blood relatives or a twin or a clone


so unless you can find a passage from the bible that states that God altered Adam's or Eve's DNA or Noah and his family DNA....then they were all Blood Relatives that spawn Mankind through inbreeding

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Fri 02/17/12 09:54 AM


To be 'sad' isn't a human-based emotion.
Dogs, cats, any other animal can be 'sad'.
Therefore, who's to claim that 'human's' were the first to show 'grief'?


I'm going by what is in the bible...this way I don't have to whine up in silly arguments with Christians or you

therefore if the bible claim that God had grief....then God had grief and the bottom line is that is the bible "humanizing" God

for you to then attempt to regulate the level of God's grief or that cats get sad, is when the argument gets ridiculous

also I've notice that you have a somewhat disturbing fixation about Cats


No, you are creating your own version that is free of your 'own thought'. That's not a defense, that's not anything.

That's just sitting on the fence tossing stones.

I constantly have a cat in my face.
You find it a fixation, but he's always by me.

..and to end this part; you didn't argue my idea, all you did was deflect it... again.

..and dude, your arguments from the start are ridiculous, I just attempt to lower myself and resort to your low-swamp level way of thinking in attempts to show you how ridiculous you are being.

Finally.. it's catching on.

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Fri 02/17/12 10:00 AM








One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth


lol you're funny Funches. Or are you going to claim that a woman's DNA is the exact same as a man's DNA? If their DNA would have been the exact same, they would have been the exact same being, a duplicate. There would have been no difference in genders or anything.


I'm saying that a woman formed from a Man's body part would have the same genetic markers and/or genetic traits as the donor which would signify that they are blood relatives or a twin or a clone


so unless you can find a passage from the bible that states that God altered Adam's or Eve's DNA or Noah and his family DNA....then they were all Blood Relatives that spawn Mankind through inbreeding


According to the Qur’an, Eve was not created from Adam’s rib. The first verse of Surah Nisa explicitly states that the first man and woman (Adam and Eve) were created directly by the Almighty:

O mankind! Fear your Lord who created you from a single soul and of like nature his mate and from the two scattered [like seeds] countless men and women. (4:1)

Some people translate this verse as ‘It is he Who has created you from a single person (Adam) and then He created from him his wife (Eve)’. They explain this verse by saying that Eve was created from the rib of Adam. This misleading translation has probably arisen because of the Arabic words khalaqa minha zawjaha, which if literally translated mean ‘created from him [-- the initial soul--] his wife’. Actually the word minha (from the soul) does not imply that ‘Eve was made from Adam’; they rather imply that Eve was made from the same species as Adam, meaning that both were human.

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Fri 02/17/12 10:01 AM









One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth


lol you're funny Funches. Or are you going to claim that a woman's DNA is the exact same as a man's DNA? If their DNA would have been the exact same, they would have been the exact same being, a duplicate. There would have been no difference in genders or anything.


I'm saying that a woman formed from a Man's body part would have the same genetic markers and/or genetic traits as the donor which would signify that they are blood relatives or a twin or a clone


so unless you can find a passage from the bible that states that God altered Adam's or Eve's DNA or Noah and his family DNA....then they were all Blood Relatives that spawn Mankind through inbreeding


According to the Qur’an, Eve was not created from Adam’s rib. The first verse of Surah Nisa explicitly states that the first man and woman (Adam and Eve) were created directly by the Almighty:

O mankind! Fear your Lord who created you from a single soul and of like nature his mate and from the two scattered [like seeds] countless men and women. (4:1)

Some people translate this verse as ‘It is he Who has created you from a single person (Adam) and then He created from him his wife (Eve)’. They explain this verse by saying that Eve was created from the rib of Adam. This misleading translation has probably arisen because of the Arabic words khalaqa minha zawjaha, which if literally translated mean ‘created from him [-- the initial soul--] his wife’. Actually the word minha (from the soul) does not imply that ‘Eve was made from Adam’; they rather imply that Eve was made from the same species as Adam, meaning that both were human.


It is God who has made from your species your mates. (16:72)

A literal translation of the words ja‘ala lakum min anfusikum azwaja of the above quoted verse (which are very similar to khalaqa minha zawjaha) would mean ‘it is God which has created your mates from you’ implying that every wife is made from her husband as Eve was. This of course is incorrect; the word anfus (plural of nafs) in this verse means ‘genre’, ‘species’ and not ‘physical being’.
As far as the Hadith you have quoted is concerned, it needs to be appreciated that in Arabic the words ‘created from’ do not necessarily refer to the substance of creation; they can also refer to the nature of something. For example the Qur’an says: ‘Man has been created from hastiness’, (21:37). This does not of course mean that man’s substance is hastiness; it only refers to his nature.
Secondly, if all the texts of the Hadith you have referred to are collected and analyzed, it becomes evident that the Prophet (sws) has compared the nature of a woman with a rib. The comparison subtly alludes to the fact that a woman’s nature is very delicate and tender as well as a bit adamant. The Prophet (sws) has advised men to treat them tactfully keeping in view this nature. Instead of forcing them to accept a particular point of view which will only bring out their obduracy, men should try to convince and persuade them.

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Fri 02/17/12 10:06 AM










One 'rib', imo, wouldn't make Adam the father of Eve, because, that's not how the whole 'birth' process works. I'm sure, the Omni-God he is, if he had intended for Adam to be the 'father' of Eve, he would have made Eve a toddler; not a full grown hottie.


since the rib of Adam was used for the egg that would form Eve...then Adam would have been the Mother of Eve and God would have been Eve's Father and it would constitute as being The first Homosexual act with Eve being the Love child of Adam and God


Eve was formed in the Womb.

Was not a egg.

How to explain this is beyond MY science.

However I have seen postings in the City of Knowledge with this science.



whatever Eve was formed from..it was still from a body part of Adam and therefore making Eve of his blood and their mating and Mankind would still spawn from inbreeding





inbreeding - Breed from closely related people or animals


Not true. For God changed Eve's DNA from Adam eg., forming a woman from a man. So with that change who knows what else was changed in the DNA.


where in the bible does it state anything about God changing Eve's DNA ......while you are searching for that passage also find the passage where God changed the DNA of Noah family before they resorted to inbreeding to repopulate the Earth


lol you're funny Funches. Or are you going to claim that a woman's DNA is the exact same as a man's DNA? If their DNA would have been the exact same, they would have been the exact same being, a duplicate. There would have been no difference in genders or anything.


I'm saying that a woman formed from a Man's body part would have the same genetic markers and/or genetic traits as the donor which would signify that they are blood relatives or a twin or a clone


so unless you can find a passage from the bible that states that God altered Adam's or Eve's DNA or Noah and his family DNA....then they were all Blood Relatives that spawn Mankind through inbreeding


According to the Qur’an, Eve was not created from Adam’s rib. The first verse of Surah Nisa explicitly states that the first man and woman (Adam and Eve) were created directly by the Almighty:

O mankind! Fear your Lord who created you from a single soul and of like nature his mate and from the two scattered [like seeds] countless men and women. (4:1)

Some people translate this verse as ‘It is he Who has created you from a single person (Adam) and then He created from him his wife (Eve)’. They explain this verse by saying that Eve was created from the rib of Adam. This misleading translation has probably arisen because of the Arabic words khalaqa minha zawjaha, which if literally translated mean ‘created from him [-- the initial soul--] his wife’. Actually the word minha (from the soul) does not imply that ‘Eve was made from Adam’; they rather imply that Eve was made from the same species as Adam, meaning that both were human.


It is God who has made from your species your mates. (16:72)

A literal translation of the words ja‘ala lakum min anfusikum azwaja of the above quoted verse (which are very similar to khalaqa minha zawjaha) would mean ‘it is God which has created your mates from you’ implying that every wife is made from her husband as Eve was. This of course is incorrect; the word anfus (plural of nafs) in this verse means ‘genre’, ‘species’ and not ‘physical being’.
As far as the Hadith you have quoted is concerned, it needs to be appreciated that in Arabic the words ‘created from’ do not necessarily refer to the substance of creation; they can also refer to the nature of something. For example the Qur’an says: ‘Man has been created from hastiness’, (21:37). This does not of course mean that man’s substance is hastiness; it only refers to his nature.
Secondly, if all the texts of the Hadith you have referred to are collected and analyzed, it becomes evident that the Prophet (sws) has compared the nature of a woman with a rib. The comparison subtly alludes to the fact that a woman’s nature is very delicate and tender as well as a bit adamant. The Prophet (sws) has advised men to treat them tactfully keeping in view this nature. Instead of forcing them to accept a particular point of view which will only bring out their obduracy, men should try to convince and persuade them.


"When Eve was created—when her body was made by God—Adam exclaimed, “Bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of man” (Moses 3:23).

From the rib of Adam, Eve was formed (see Gen. 2:22; Moses 3:22; Abr. 5:16). Interesting to me is the fact that animals fashioned by our Creator, such as dogs and cats, have thirteen pairs of ribs, but the human being has one less with only twelve. I presume another bone could have been used, but the rib, coming as it does from the side, seems to denote partnership. The rib signifies neither dominion nor subservience, but a lateral relationship as partners, to work and to live, side by side."

- Russell M. Nelson, “Lessons from Eve,” Ensign, Nov 1987, 86

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Fri 02/17/12 11:00 AM

No, you are creating your own version that is free of your 'own thought'. That's not a defense, that's not anything.


sorry Sin_and_Sorrow...but you like to argument about and deny things that are clearly in the bible ....the bible claim that God grieved ..so if you disagree with it.....then grieve about it along with God.. ...misery loves company

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Fri 02/17/12 11:02 AM


No, you are creating your own version that is free of your 'own thought'. That's not a defense, that's not anything.


sorry Sin_and_Sorrow...but you like to argument about and deny things that are clearly in the bible ....the bible claim that God grieved ..so if you disagree with it.....then grieve about it along with God.. ...misery loves company


Yes God greived, we've already covered this. God feels the same emotions that we feel eg., sadness, happiness, anger, ect. We are made in the image of God.

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Fri 02/17/12 11:05 AM



No, you are creating your own version that is free of your 'own thought'. That's not a defense, that's not anything.


sorry Sin_and_Sorrow...but you like to argument about and deny things that are clearly in the bible ....the bible claim that God grieved ..so if you disagree with it.....then grieve about it along with God.. ...misery loves company


Yes God greived, we've already covered this. God feels the same emotions that we feel eg., sadness, happiness, anger, ect. We are made in the image of God.


That is why we are told to control our emotions eg., anger but sin not. It is not the emotion that is sinful, but the possible action that follows.


Ephesians 4:26
26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath

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Fri 02/17/12 11:07 AM

According to the Qur’an, Eve was not created from Adam’s rib. The first verse of Surah Nisa explicitly states that the first man and woman (Adam and Eve) were created directly by the Almighty:


wow Cowboy...I didn't know you were Muslim....now a lot of your posts makes sense