Seatbelts ...........another $$$$$$ law.

For you all worried about being stopped and checked for something you may not have, why not just make sure you have what's required in order to drive?

singmesweet why not just jump ahead and get your family rfid chipped

so you can be ready when the law takes affect?

chips would be a bit extreme

requirements for driving a two ton vehicle at and besides others driving two ton vehicles seems kind of logical and reasonable to me,,,


requiring id just to be IN PUBLIC would be another extreme

requiring proof that you have been validated as someone who understands the signs on the road, or proof that if you cause an accident or are in an accident you can contribute towards repairs

is another logical and reasonable request,,,

so much for your rights to probable cause

sieg highal

That's coming too

I only made it through the first page of this whining crap.

Keep your papers in order and stop comparing all this to the holocaust.

Only two members of my blood survived Buchenwald and Aushwitz. THEY got the right to ***** about the Nazis.

This is the last time I am gonna bother reading your crap dude.

However, I've never had a problem with them taking either my SSN or DL, because I have it memorized.

I think I forgot my ID once. It was creepy, I felt naked, and not in a good way.

i've read some really absurd statements on the forums but this..............

what rights do you think one has as regards probable cause?

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Preamble

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it is unreasonable to stop someone for just driving down the street and not breaking any rules of the road just so they can force you to give a portion of your body to see if you have been drinking which qalso violates this from same site

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Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;

nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,

nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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forcing you to give a part of yourself (blood or breath) is forcing you to be a witness against yourself

sorry if you dont like having to show your id at a checkpoint an registration id say dont drive.

and when four wheelers and bikes are prohibited because others abuse them

just park them

remember he three wheelers === illegal to make or import cause to many abused them and drove them recklessly

but thats okay thank daddy govt

why should everyone be punished for the actions of a few