I get that. And, believe me, I do not enjoy siding with volant7. It's embarrassing. But, in this particular instance I agree. In the interest of "safety" we are slowly but surely giving up our freedoms and our rights. These are laws and allowances we believe will not affect us if we "just do the right thing". But, history has shown us that that's not how it works. Once the laws and allowances are in place, the powers that be can use them any way they want against us. It's why the Founding Fathers were so adamant about putting the restrictions in the Constitution.

Getting off my soapbox now.

I would buy this if it was a murder charge or something like that, but... back to reality here, people stopped at check points either already have warrants, or are doing something illegal. Hopefully at a respectful age you'd know the difference between right and wrong, so the real question is... what do you have to hide?! And yeah, I know what you're gonna say, "nothing." Well, you sure fooled me, so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to step outta the car, Ma'am.

The cops have always been able to do that. But, unless something comes up wrong with your tags (which are in plain view) they can't stop you.

DUI checkpoints are slow as hell and take up too much time. they really should only be checking for sobriety.

if they run every person's license and information, that would take WAAAAY too much time.

That's fine. All I was doing was explaining why it might not be covered under the 4th amendment. If it doesn't violate rights (not privileges) then I wouldn't think it's covered under the constitution. I never said you couldn't have your views (in a debate, we all have them) or even suggested you thought it was legal or illegal or brought up Nazi's

You obviously do not know what a DUI checkpoint is. Everyone is stopped.

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From wiki (which I hate to use as a source, but it gives you the basic info about sobriety checkpoints and what else they involve):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_checkpoint

Sobriety checkpoints

Sobriety checkpoints or roadblocks involve law enforcement officials stopping every vehicle (or more typically, every nth vehicle) on a public roadway and investigating the possibility that the driver might be too impaired to drive. They are often set up late at night or in the very early morning hours and on weekends, at which time the proportion of impaired drivers tends to be the highest.

With a portable and quick alcohol breath test, the police can test all drivers (if the law permits), and process the cars one by one as in a conveyor belt. When there is no quick test, a more complicated routine is necessary. Upon suspicion, the stopped driver is required to exit the vehicle and take a roadside sobriety test that requires the demonstration of both mental and balance skills. If the officer determines that the test has not been passed, the driver is then required to take an alcohol breath test (referred to as a Breathalyzer test in the United States).

Sobriety checkpoints regularly catch much more than just drunk drivers. The identity checks will catch individuals wanted by the police, and DUI often occurs together with other crimes, such as vehicle inspection and registration violations, vehicle tax avoidance or driving without a license.

He knows that....but still has not said why he had no papers

you do have the right to travel, just not across borders without id,

and you dont have the right to OPERATE A VEHICLE on a road that is public without the proper public validation for doing so which is in the form of registration and insurance,,,

thats odd, because EVERYTIME im stopped for anything, they check my license and registration and it takes maybe five minutes

but thats IF papers are in order or IF the driver has papers at all, I Guess,

Sure they can get you for being out in public regardless if your walking, riding a bike,driving a vehicle or a passenger. It's the Law!!!!

It has always been a law that one must carry a form of ID....

being in public is just that...IN PUBLIC!

exactly...so what's the problem?

the only time it's taken me a while is if it's a high traffic area and there are a lot of cars to check

It seems that he's mad because he was actually asked for those things and that he wasn't able to get away with not having them. I guess he thought since he was not drunk, they should have let him go without asking to see his license and registration for some reason. Even though they ask everyone for those things.

What is your question?

this is not the law in the US. Pedestrians arent required to carry ID. So long as they know who they are and can cooperate with an officer. An actual document is not legally required.

This is just flat out not true.

You need a driver's license to drive. Other than that there is no law stating you must have I.D. I can walk or bike anywhere I want in this country without identification.