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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. So if you had many different birth certificates, I mean different, not just copies. They would all be right? If you had multiple different social security numbers, they would all be yours? All the beliefs are so different, they can NOT be speaking of the same entity. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. So if you had many different birth certificates, I mean different, not just copies. They would all be right? If you had multiple different social security numbers, they would all be yours? All the beliefs are so different, they can NOT be speaking of the same entity. If there's ONE God, repeat ONE, than there's no other place for the spiritual energy to go but back to that one. Otherwise there are multiple God's then. You can't have it both ways, there's either one God over all, or multiple. If there's just the one, there couldn't be false Gods because there's no other God that would exist. Besides all that, there have been many people who have experienced miracles of all different kinds, that didn't subscribe to the Christian God. Are you gonna tell me that those experiences are not valid simply because they don't believe as you believe? That's highly arrogant if so. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information there is similar information in more than one book just like if I wrote an autobiography, someone else wrote a biography about me, and a third person wrote a biography about me they would all have , no doubt, plenty of facts that were true of my life and my quotes,, etc,, although they may not all word it the same or use all the same examples and incidents... The bible is a COLLECTION of books, the collection is inspired of GOD (according to my belief), but it does not necessarily contain all books which were ever inspired of God,, leaving room for other such collections to lay the same claim of being God Inspired Truth |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. So if you had many different birth certificates, I mean different, not just copies. They would all be right? If you had multiple different social security numbers, they would all be yours? All the beliefs are so different, they can NOT be speaking of the same entity. If there's ONE God, repeat ONE, than there's no other place for the spiritual energy to go but back to that one. Otherwise there are multiple God's then. You can't have it both ways, there's either one God over all, or multiple. If there's just the one, there couldn't be false Gods because there's no other God that would exist. Besides all that, there have been many people who have experienced miracles of all different kinds, that didn't subscribe to the Christian God. Are you gonna tell me that those experiences are not valid simply because they don't believe as you believe? That's highly arrogant if so. First of all, you think God only helps, loves, and or takes care of the people that are "Christian". lol, no God helps loves and takes care of everyone. And no there is not one god. Know ye not the ye are God's? There is one father, one creator, one being in control. Spiritual energy? You're spirit, you, either dies, or is rewarded with eternal life. Sure there could be "False Gods" if there is but one God. That's why they are "FALSE" gods, because they are not real. If a group of people worshipped a bag as God, are you telling me it either is a god or there is absolutely no god? How would that work? |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. How do I know that Columbus existed, the papers I have seen and read could be completely part of a conpsiracy to lay claim to AMerica , they could all be fictional fabrications I know the information is 'true', because I dont find the compelling reason to believe otherwise. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. God tells us it's right. You take the first step and put faith in it's truth, God will reassure you and comfort you that it is. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. So if you had many different birth certificates, I mean different, not just copies. They would all be right? If you had multiple different social security numbers, they would all be yours? All the beliefs are so different, they can NOT be speaking of the same entity. If there's ONE God, repeat ONE, than there's no other place for the spiritual energy to go but back to that one. Otherwise there are multiple God's then. You can't have it both ways, there's either one God over all, or multiple. If there's just the one, there couldn't be false Gods because there's no other God that would exist. Besides all that, there have been many people who have experienced miracles of all different kinds, that didn't subscribe to the Christian God. Are you gonna tell me that those experiences are not valid simply because they don't believe as you believe? That's highly arrogant if so. First of all, you think God only helps, loves, and or takes care of the people that are "Christian". lol, no God helps loves and takes care of everyone. My point in saying that is that if someone say is praying to Buddha for help in a situation and they receive it, it indicates to me that it really doesn't matter which God you subscribe to, you are still being heard if you seek. |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Thu 08/25/11 07:24 PM
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. God tells us it's right. You take the first step and put faith in it's truth, God will reassure you and comfort you that it is. The whole thing of it is, you are more or less FORCED to believe it upon penalty of death. How is that love or true choice? I refuse to believe that a loving God is gonna give us free will to make of our lives what we will but then place restrictions therein on how we use it. The two ideas are completely contradictory. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. God tells us it's right. You take the first step and put faith in it's truth, God will reassure you and comfort you that it is. The whole thing of it is, you are more or less FORCED to believe it upon penalty of death. How is that love or true choice? I refuse to believe that a loving God is gonna give us free will to make of our lives what we will but then place restrictions therein on how we use it. The two ideas are completely contradictory. First off, we aren't "forced" into believing. How can one be "forced" into believing something but yet still have free will? And besides that, we aren't "forced". You either believe and obey or you don't, choice is yours. Eternal life is a GIFT, it's not a given, it's not automatic, it is a GIFT. Do you give gifts to people that curse you, insult you, or do any other kind of terrible thing to you? |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. God tells us it's right. You take the first step and put faith in it's truth, God will reassure you and comfort you that it is. The whole thing of it is, you are more or less FORCED to believe it upon penalty of death. How is that love or true choice? I refuse to believe that a loving God is gonna give us free will to make of our lives what we will but then place restrictions therein on how we use it. The two ideas are completely contradictory. First off, we aren't "forced" into believing. How can one be "forced" into believing something but yet still have free will? And besides that, we aren't "forced". You either believe and obey or you don't, choice is yours. Sure if you wanna play semantics, we are not technically forced, but how can you TRULY have a choice if the choices are obey or die? That's no more a choice than it is for a rapist to tell his victim she is free to leave but he'll kill her if she tries. It's the same damn thing. |
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Gods words are infallible,,, our interpretations/translations,,, are not The god that doesn't exist has left no words. Only man is left words. according to your beliefs,,, but not everyone's Perhaps, but no religion, book or belief system has a monopoly on God. The idea that one book above all others can be God's word, would suggest the opposite. not really, especially if God is everywhere than God can have certainly inspired more than one book or collection of book, he could have inspired numerous authors, he could have spoken through many people,,,, Right BUT why place one book above all others, infallibly so if that's the case? Just cause a book says something and is claimed to be something doesn't automatically make it so. its not the book, but the information Ok fine, but how do you KNOW that ALL of the information is true? How can you prove it? Just because we are told over and over again that something is true doesn't always make it so. God tells us it's right. You take the first step and put faith in it's truth, God will reassure you and comfort you that it is. The whole thing of it is, you are more or less FORCED to believe it upon penalty of death. How is that love or true choice? I refuse to believe that a loving God is gonna give us free will to make of our lives what we will but then place restrictions therein on how we use it. The two ideas are completely contradictory. First off, we aren't "forced" into believing. How can one be "forced" into believing something but yet still have free will? And besides that, we aren't "forced". You either believe and obey or you don't, choice is yours. Sure if you wanna play semantics, we are not technically forced, but how can you TRULY have a choice if the choices are obey or die? That's no more a choice than it is for a rapist to tell his victim she is free to leave but he'll kill her if she tries. It's the same damn thing. Free will doesn't mean you can do everything and anything you wish. The USA is a FREE country, does that mean you can do anything and everything you wish? No. There are rules, laws, and regulations. Free will doesn't mean you can do things without consequence. There's a consequence and or a "reaction" to everything and anything you do. All free will is, is the ability to think, the ability to choose, the ability to make a decision. |
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kleisto,there's one God who is the God of gods.His path is narrow.Very few find him;those who seek with determination.There's satan who also answers prayers esp when one prays to false gods.That's why even a stone will answer if you believe in it but it's not God.If you find God or when he finds you,you'll know by the Spirit.Eckankar will take you on an astral 'spiritual' journey till you get to a blue light which they worship from a distance as God.That's the gate of Heaven.They don't enter cos, no Christ!
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It is a sin to miss Church on the weekend... Go to Church!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HorzUloGkY |
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biblically, the church is the people, not the building
anyplace where people ocngregate together in reverance of God and anytime they choose to do it,, Sundays arent the mandated day to show reverence and a church 'building' is not the mandated place |
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whats the issue? truly
I do not believe that I have to be a good girl for santa to bring gifts, because I dont believe in Santa IF one doesnt believe in the God who requires belief , than they shouldnt be concerned with what the potential consequences of such a non existent God are and let time reveal to them what the TRUTH is, as opposed to what they might have BELIEVED it to be life is a gamble |
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All the beliefs are so different, they can NOT be speaking of the same entity. They can if that are all partly wrong. |
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IF one doesnt believe in the God who requires belief , than they shouldnt be concerned with what the potential consequences of such a non existent God are 
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