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Topic: What is sin, really?
Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 05/01/14 10:42 AM

Sin is based on intent......It is determined by the intention of our actions...toward others, toward nature, toward animals, toward our universe....Sin is based on intent.....



Pretty much so as it says if u know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to u

LUNG1954's photo
Mon 05/05/14 04:39 AM

{a sin is anything that creates distance in our relationship/friendship with God}

Islam teaches that all the prophets of God – including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad- taught basically the same religion: namely 'to worship the One True God and lead a life of obedience to His commandments'.
The story of our first parents Adam and Eve narrated in the Bible is also recounted in the Quran. Both Christians and Muslims are united in the belief that Adam was misled by Satan to disobey God and to eat the forbidden fruit, and consequently God expelled him and his progeny from Paradise.
Muslims believe that Adam soon after the act of disobedience became aware of the seriousness of his sin and repented. He sought the forgiveness of God, and God forgave him.
Sin, from the point of view of Islam, is a conscious and willful act that violates a commandment of God or the right of a fellow being. We cannot consider a person to be a sinner if he or she acts under duress or out of ignorance, because human accountability is an important aspect of justice as envisaged in Islam. And no one can be truly held accountable for an action he has no power to avoid, because, God does not lay more burden on a human than he can bear.
Islam teaches that sin is an avoidable act that harms the perpetrator's own soul. This means that there is no innate or inherited nature that prompts a person to disobey God. That is to say, it is a person's free choice whether to sin or not; and one's disposition to sin is only as much as, if not less than, their inclination to do good.




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Mon 05/05/14 04:40 AM


Sin is based on intent......It is determined by the intention of our actions...toward others, toward nature, toward animals, toward our universe....Sin is based on intent.....



Pretty much so as it says if u know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to u


flowerforyou

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Mon 05/05/14 06:09 AM
:heart: flowerforyou



Sin is based on intent......It is determined by the intention of our actions...toward others, toward nature, toward animals, toward our universe....Sin is based on intent.....



Pretty much so as it says if u know to do good and do not do it then it is sin to u


flowerforyou

LUNG1954's photo
Tue 05/13/14 07:00 AM
The general concept of sin in Islam
A sin is an act in contrast to the will of Allah. We can act following His will, or we can fail to pay attention to His will or we can deliberately act against His will. The purpose of our existence as Human beings is to worship and serve Allah - to do His will.
A fundamental precept of Islam is that Human nature is essentially good. There are many elements to Human nature and each one has the potential to bring benefits.
In general we can say that a sin is committed when someone causes harm to himself or to others or to any part of creation. The guilt depends on the intention of the sinner. In its most extreme form someone does deliberately harmful, destructive acts and rejecting any appeals to do. The greater sin is killing a man who isn't guilty.


CowboyGH's photo
Tue 05/13/14 07:07 AM

The general concept of sin in Islam
A sin is an act in contrast to the will of Allah. We can act following His will, or we can fail to pay attention to His will or we can deliberately act against His will. The purpose of our existence as Human beings is to worship and serve Allah - to do His will.
A fundamental precept of Islam is that Human nature is essentially good. There are many elements to Human nature and each one has the potential to bring benefits.
In general we can say that a sin is committed when someone causes harm to himself or to others or to any part of creation. The guilt depends on the intention of the sinner. In its most extreme form someone does deliberately harmful, destructive acts and rejecting any appeals to do. The greater sin is killing a man who isn't guilty.






The greater sin is killing a man who isn't guilty.


And who's to say you have pure enough judgement to claim who is guilty or not?

no1phD's photo
Tue 05/13/14 07:08 AM
.. operating a motor vehicle..
. without fully paying attention to what you're doing..
.. that's a sin you should burn 4...
mad :angry: explode

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 05/13/14 03:16 PM


1 John 2:1-15
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
KJV

Here is the problem know one wants to walk as Yahshua did because the world will hate you if u do. u will be called a cultists and hated for no reason. Try it walk as Yahshua walked and see if your family and friends don't leave you.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Sin is the Transgression of the Law that Yahshua kept perfectly. But the world says we pick and choose our laws and so they love you because u are of this world.

LUNG1954's photo
Wed 05/14/14 08:25 PM
QUOTE {And who's to say you have pure enough judgement to claim who is guilty or not?}
The judge who says if someone is guilty or not.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 05/14/14 08:45 PM

QUOTE {And who's to say you have pure enough judgement to claim who is guilty or not?}
The judge who says if someone is guilty or not.



So there's no mercy in this judgement? Only white or black, right or wrong?

LUNG1954's photo
Fri 05/16/14 01:07 AM
The Mercy of God in Bible
Mercy is the result and effect of God's goodness. Psa 33:5.
The most learned of the heathens thought they gave their god Jupiter two golden characters when they styled him good and great. Both these meet in God, goodness and greatness, majesty and mercy. God is essentially good in himself and relatively good to us.

The Mercy of Allah in Regard to Forgiveness
"O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." Koran.




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Fri 05/16/14 01:10 AM

The Mercy of God in Bible
Mercy is the result and effect of God's goodness. Psa 33:5.
The most learned of the heathens thought they gave their god Jupiter two golden characters when they styled him good and great. Both these meet in God, goodness and greatness, majesty and mercy. God is essentially good in himself and relatively good to us.

The Mercy of Allah in Regard to Forgiveness
"O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." Koran.





and then he instructs his Followers to kill all the Infidels!

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Fri 05/16/14 01:45 AM
Hi

LUNG1954's photo
Fri 05/16/14 02:03 AM
Removing Sin in Bible
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Ways in which we can erase our sins. (in Islam);
Performing Prayer; if any Muslim performs ablution well and offers his prayer with humility and bowing, it will be an expiation for his past sins, so long as he has not committed a major sin; and this applies to for all times.
Doing good deeds; the good deeds remove the evil deeds (small sins).
Fasting and performing prayers in the nights: Whoever fasted the month of Ramad�n out of sincere Faith (i.e. belief) and hoping for a reward from All�h, then all his past sins will be forgiven,
Sending salutations; If anyone sends you a salutation, All�h will record for him ten good deeds, wipe off ten of his sins, and raise him thereby ten degrees in rank, and He will return his salutation with a similar salutation.
Being kind to animals; there is a reward for serving any animate.


CowboyGH's photo
Fri 05/16/14 11:40 PM

Removing Sin in Bible
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Ways in which we can erase our sins. (in Islam);
Performing Prayer; if any Muslim performs ablution well and offers his prayer with humility and bowing, it will be an expiation for his past sins, so long as he has not committed a major sin; and this applies to for all times.
Doing good deeds; the good deeds remove the evil deeds (small sins).
Fasting and performing prayers in the nights: Whoever fasted the month of Ramad�n out of sincere Faith (i.e. belief) and hoping for a reward from All�h, then all his past sins will be forgiven,
Sending salutations; If anyone sends you a salutation, All�h will record for him ten good deeds, wipe off ten of his sins, and raise him thereby ten degrees in rank, and He will return his salutation with a similar salutation.
Being kind to animals; there is a reward for serving any animate.





This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,


Why you try to separate "God" and "Savior" Show where in the scriptures of either it specifically says "Savior" in reference to Jesus please.


Exodus 15:26
26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the Lord that healeth thee.

Isaiah 43:3
3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.


Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Ok I've shown a few verses in reference to our "God". If you will, please show some that state "savior".

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 05/16/14 11:44 PM


The Mercy of God in Bible
Mercy is the result and effect of God's goodness. Psa 33:5.
The most learned of the heathens thought they gave their god Jupiter two golden characters when they styled him good and great. Both these meet in God, goodness and greatness, majesty and mercy. God is essentially good in himself and relatively good to us.

The Mercy of Allah in Regard to Forgiveness
"O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." Koran.





and then he instructs his Followers to kill all the Infidels!


Matthew 5:39
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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Sat 05/17/14 04:16 AM



The Mercy of God in Bible
Mercy is the result and effect of God's goodness. Psa 33:5.
The most learned of the heathens thought they gave their god Jupiter two golden characters when they styled him good and great. Both these meet in God, goodness and greatness, majesty and mercy. God is essentially good in himself and relatively good to us.

The Mercy of Allah in Regard to Forgiveness
"O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." Koran.





and then he instructs his Followers to kill all the Infidels!


Matthew 5:39
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.


thank you for the message of deliverance from the old way :)

and good morning :)

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 05/17/14 07:59 AM
Yahshua does not save nobody. His sacrifice Yahweh grants salvation through him not by him. It always has been and always will be Yahweh Saves. Yahshua means literally Yahweh is Salvation. That's why when he came into Jerusalem they say Blessed is He who comes in the Name of Yahweh.
Yahshua was the word he did as his father told him. Yahweh and Yahshua are not the same person only in Spirit as we can be also.
Yahshua did not pray to himself. His miracles he said was to show the Glory of his father. Tradition tradition with no study of where tradition came from. Nothing new under the sun

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Sat 05/17/14 08:08 AM
.. so question.. fornicating with myself.. is that a sin.
. I mean you know what I mean..hmm.
. and who here without sin may throwout the first stone... another question.. if you're in a committed relationship. and the Bible says.. at least I think it does..
. that you're not even supposed to think about other women..yes..?..
. it makes it really hard in today's age and time.. when they plaster beautiful half naked women everywhere..
. I mean they walk down your street even. we have all seen them.. wearing those tight spandex pants.
. so what is a guy supposed to do..
. it's hard to turn a blind eye..hmm..
.. just wondering..

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 05/17/14 08:23 AM

.. so question.. fornicating with myself.. is that a sin.
. I mean you know what I mean..hmm.
. and who here without sin may throwout the first stone... another question.. if you're in a committed relationship. and the Bible says.. at least I think it does..
. that you're not even supposed to think about other women..yes..?..
. it makes it really hard in today's age and time.. when they plaster beautiful half naked women everywhere..
. I mean they walk down your street even. we have all seen them.. wearing those tight spandex pants.
. so what is a guy supposed to do..
. it's hard to turn a blind eye..hmm..
.. just wondering..


It is Sodom and Gommorrah. yes it is very hard. all sin starts in the mind. our society says do not touch but it is okay to entice. all these women are doing a greater sin

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