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Topic: Is the Bible historically accurate?
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 07/14/11 12:42 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 07/14/11 12:43 PM
That's why I said about turning up the AC, that would chill the lizardmen out to the point they would go to sleep. Maybe they are the ones behind global warming then. I watched a movie like that once, they didn't like the cold climates.

lookin4home Joined Sat 07/31/10 Posts: 177	Thu 07/14/11 12:50 PM
This is a poll. Do you believe the Bible is historically accurate? Does your church teach that the Bible is true and historically accurate? Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both? Forest Gump might be historically accurate but it's still fiction. The bible is just like the stories of Greek mythology, which the prophets ripped off to write the bible in the first place, they are real people and real places but it's not what really happened.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 07/14/11 01:33 PM
This is a poll. Do you believe the Bible is historically accurate? Does your church teach that the Bible is true and historically accurate? Are all the stories set out and told in the Bible true or are they fiction or a mixture of both? Forest Gump might be historically accurate but it's still fiction. The bible is just like the stories of Greek mythology, which the prophets ripped off to write the bible in the first place, they are real people and real places but it's not what really happened. This is what I think also. Even if some things in the Bible seem historically accurate that does not mean that the stories are true. Forest Gump was an excellent example.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Thu 07/14/11 03:08 PM
I dont know why he didnt make it 'simple' and I dont really care, but I imagine there was as much value in causing me to put 'effort' into understanding it,, as there was for my parents to teach me to put 'efforts' into other area of my life working hard, learning everying isnt simple or meant to be, are good ways to be a stronger individual in our mortal life,, perhaps its a good preperation for our immortal life as well? You ought to care, because if He's God He can do anything right? And if He wants people to know the truth, why do you have to jump so many hoops to get there? It doesn't seem like the work of a divine being. You don't need to place certain morals on those qualities you mention though do you? I try not to dwell on why things arent 'simple' in life,, it does little to help me figure them out ,,,,,,or , in other words, to help me LEARN,, which is one of the great points of life if its 'simple' , what do we learn? There is much to learn and experience, you don't need an afterlife promise to teach you things. If there's anything I've learned in the last year, it's that you never really stop learning. The problem comes when you assume there is nothing new to know, which religion more or less teaches. The idea that this is the truth, and there is no others type of thing, it stunts your growth and ability to learn new ideas because you refuse to accept them if they clash with what you've been taught. there is nothing new to know? also not something I remember reading in my Bible Of course not, you think it's gonna outright say that? And yes it still does stunt your growth spiritually speaking, because it places God in a box, to where anything that doesn't fit in that box you put God in is rejected, so you are incapable of learning new ideas about who God might really be because you won't step out of your box.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Thu 07/14/11 03:10 PM
It has been my experience that some Christians feel that the Bible has the answer to every question you could possibly have. (Ridiculi.) But if a person actually believes that, they are convinced that they don't need to crack the pages of any other book. The Religious leaders would love that, because other books might have information in them that would cause people to come to their senses and actually start thinking about other possibilities. That, that is EXACTLY what I mean when I say it stunts your spiritual growth. It applies to different belief systems as well, on top of books.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/14/11 03:39 PM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Thu 07/14/11 03:53 PM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 07/14/11 04:21 PM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so. I do, who else can determine what my spiritual journey/growth has been? wouldnt it be odd to suggest to christians that they not judge others connection to God by the bible but then to suggest that one can personally judge a christians spiritual growth?

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Thu 07/14/11 05:27 PM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so. I do, who else can determine what my spiritual journey/growth has been? wouldnt it be odd to suggest to christians that they not judge others connection to God by the bible but then to suggest that one can personally judge a christians spiritual growth? How else am I supposed to interpret you, when you subscribe to a religion that in and of itself limits you in what you can believe and what you can do?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 07/14/11 05:39 PM Edited by RKISIT on Thu 07/14/11 05:41 PM
some of the stories are historical facts,like the fact that an imaginary God used its magic and poofed everything into existance,then it poofed after puffing on some of the home grown chit it poofed,the life on this planet.Then it poofed this baby into some "virgin womans" womb,sure it did it got a little sumtin sumtin like Zues did.So then this babys daddy decided that the only way to chat with it is through its baby,the baby grew up did some magic tricks and chit,then like a dumba$$ got himself crucified,i think the dude smoked way to much of what daddy poofed to puff.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Thu 07/14/11 06:19 PM
some of the stories are historical facts,like the fact that an imaginary God used its magic and poofed everything into existance,then it poofed after puffing on some of the home grown chit it poofed,the life on this planet.Then it poofed this baby into some "virgin womans" womb,sure it did it got a little sumtin sumtin like Zues did.So then this babys daddy decided that the only way to chat with it is through its baby,the baby grew up did some magic tricks and chit,then like a dumba$$ got himself crucified,i think the dude smoked way to much of what daddy poofed to puff. er... so then... are you holding?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 07/14/11 06:23 PM Edited by RKISIT on Thu 07/14/11 06:24 PM
some of the stories are historical facts,like the fact that an imaginary God used its magic and poofed everything into existance,then it poofed after puffing on some of the home grown chit it poofed,the life on this planet.Then it poofed this baby into some "virgin womans" womb,sure it did it got a little sumtin sumtin like Zues did.So then this babys daddy decided that the only way to chat with it is through its baby,the baby grew up did some magic tricks and chit,then like a dumba$$ got himself crucified,i think the dude smoked way to much of what daddy poofed to puff. er... so then... are you holding? the story is true i tell ya i had 1,000,000 stoned christians tell me and i don't mean stoned by the Jewish Romans eithermaybe Roman Red they were smokin

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 07/15/11 12:25 AM Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/15/11 12:26 AM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so. I do, who else can determine what my spiritual journey/growth has been? wouldnt it be odd to suggest to christians that they not judge others connection to God by the bible but then to suggest that one can personally judge a christians spiritual growth? How else am I supposed to interpret you, when you subscribe to a religion that in and of itself limits you in what you can believe and what you can do? this assumes a christian can only learn from one resource, which is almost insulting if I wasnt very familiar with the foundational truth of the individual asserting the claim in truth, the bible doesnt limit me in what I can believe, anymore than a math book limits what I can learn about numbers,, it is one resource that can be used to gain knowledge accepting that knowledge in no way has 'limited' me,,,,although it gives me a foundation for other things I learn(kind of like basic math does for geometry,,etc,,,)

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Fri 07/15/11 03:30 AM Edited by Kleisto on Fri 07/15/11 03:30 AM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so. I do, who else can determine what my spiritual journey/growth has been? wouldnt it be odd to suggest to christians that they not judge others connection to God by the bible but then to suggest that one can personally judge a christians spiritual growth? How else am I supposed to interpret you, when you subscribe to a religion that in and of itself limits you in what you can believe and what you can do? this assumes a christian can only learn from one resource, which is almost insulting if I wasnt very familiar with the foundational truth of the individual asserting the claim in truth, the bible doesnt limit me in what I can believe, anymore than a math book limits what I can learn about numbers,, it is one resource that can be used to gain knowledge accepting that knowledge in no way has 'limited' me,,,,although it gives me a foundation for other things I learn(kind of like basic math does for geometry,,etc,,,) The problem though is, you use that as a means to interpret other things outside of it. Ergo, if any of it goes against the Bible it's automatically wrong because the Bible is always right. That's where the closed mind and limitations come in, cause you become incapable of really being open to other ideas that may clash with what you have been told the truth is.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 07/15/11 10:24 AM
some of the stories are historical facts,like the fact that an imaginary God used its magic and poofed everything into existance,then it poofed after puffing on some of the home grown chit it poofed,the life on this planet.Then it poofed this baby into some "virgin womans" womb,sure it did it got a little sumtin sumtin like Zues did.So then this babys daddy decided that the only way to chat with it is through its baby,the baby grew up did some magic tricks and chit,then like a dumba$$ got himself crucified,i think the dude smoked way to much of what daddy poofed to puff. er... so then... are you holding? the story is true i tell ya i had 1,000,000 stoned christians tell me and i don't mean stoned by the Jewish Romans eithermaybe Roman Red they were smokin ...I'm not doubting your story ...er.... I just wanted to know if you are holding...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 07/15/11 11:01 AM Edited by msharmony on Fri 07/15/11 11:01 AM
it may stunt some peoples spiritual growth mine has managed just fine though I would beg to differ but.......if you say so. I do, who else can determine what my spiritual journey/growth has been? wouldnt it be odd to suggest to christians that they not judge others connection to God by the bible but then to suggest that one can personally judge a christians spiritual growth? How else am I supposed to interpret you, when you subscribe to a religion that in and of itself limits you in what you can believe and what you can do? this assumes a christian can only learn from one resource, which is almost insulting if I wasnt very familiar with the foundational truth of the individual asserting the claim in truth, the bible doesnt limit me in what I can believe, anymore than a math book limits what I can learn about numbers,, it is one resource that can be used to gain knowledge accepting that knowledge in no way has 'limited' me,,,,although it gives me a foundation for other things I learn(kind of like basic math does for geometry,,etc,,,) The problem though is, you use that as a means to interpret other things outside of it. Ergo, if any of it goes against the Bible it's automatically wrong because the Bible is always right. That's where the closed mind and limitations come in, cause you become incapable of really being open to other ideas that may clash with what you have been told the truth is. but what would that have to do with being any less or more spiritually evolved than someone who believes any other resource as 'true' dont those 'pedantics' who have a scientific foundation automatically dispute and become unwilling to accept anything other than what science has told them is the 'truth'? are they being spiritually stunted or even intellectually stunted by following their source of foundation and applying it everywhere else?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 07/15/11 01:08 PM
Imagination rules the world. While some people create reality, others simply observe and perpetuate it.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 07/15/11 03:20 PM
Imagination rules the world. While some people create reality, others simply observe and perpetuate it. Very deep, I guess you found someone who was holding, eh? (in case you didn't... sffftttt, ERE!)

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 07/15/11 03:51 PM
Imagination rules the world. While some people create reality, others simply observe and perpetuate it. Very deep, I guess you found someone who was holding, eh? (in case you didn't... sffftttt, ERE!)

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Fri 07/15/11 03:56 PM
some of the stories are historical facts,like the fact that an imaginary God used its magic and poofed everything into existance,then it poofed after puffing on some of the home grown chit it poofed,the life on this planet.Then it poofed this baby into some "virgin womans" womb,sure it did it got a little sumtin sumtin like Zues did.So then this babys daddy decided that the only way to chat with it is through its baby,the baby grew up did some magic tricks and chit,then like a dumba$$ got himself crucified,i think the dude smoked way to much of what daddy poofed to puff.