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Ah, ok. I was asking, as you seem to think that the woman should be responsible for it, so I thought you may have an idea of what you thought they should be using. actually I think personally men are responsible for it. I have always been responsible for having a condom. I never met a girl that said they had condoms. I only every had 1 person taking the pill and that was a relationship and she didn't want to use condoms anymore. |
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Women are born with all the eggs they're going to have. Men are continuously making sperm, even if it's deteriorating as they get older. Men want the say-so in what women do with their bodies, but aren't going to stand up and accept half the responsibility, including birth control pills. Then they wonder why women are telling them to F off, when it comes to decision making for carrying a pregnancy to term? If men took up half the responsibility with regards to birth control, then there would be some fairness in allowing them some rights to decide whether a baby should be carried to term. Good point, but men and women are not equally involved in the creation of a baby. The men may supply the sperm, but the action takes place inside the women. Not to say that either one should be more responsible than the other though. That's really reaching to say they're not equally involved, as without the sperm, there will be no baby. That just sounds like an argument for being less responsible. It seems that men have been doing so all along. Every excuse in the book from nature to society. |
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Not to say that either one should be more responsible than the other though.
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You would know the need for birth control being used by both parties if you stood in a Walmart and watched some of the people frequenting the place. There are some strange looking people going in and out.
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Ah, ok. I was asking, as you seem to think that the woman should be responsible for it, so I thought you may have an idea of what you thought they should be using. actually I think personally men are responsible for it. I have always been responsible for having a condom. I never met a girl that said they had condoms. I only every had 1 person taking the pill and that was a relationship and she didn't want to use condoms anymore. As I've already said earlier, if I think I'm going to have sex, I'm going to have condoms. Not all men have condoms when needed. So, just because you do and you've never been with a woman who has brought a condom, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. How do you know you've only been with one person who was on the pill? Does that conversation come up every time? |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Sat 06/11/11 06:10 PM
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Ah, ok. I was asking, as you seem to think that the woman should be responsible for it, so I thought you may have an idea of what you thought they should be using. actually I think personally men are responsible for it. I have always been responsible for having a condom. I never met a girl that said they had condoms. I only every had 1 person taking the pill and that was a relationship and she didn't want to use condoms anymore. As I've already said earlier, if I think I'm going to have sex, I'm going to have condoms. Not all men have condoms when needed. So, just because you do and you've never been with a woman who has brought a condom, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. How do you know you've only been with one person who was on the pill? Does that conversation come up every time? because the people i have been with were not 1 time things. One way or another it comes up. I don't think its any more private a question than do you have a condom. And I didn't always use to carry one. When I was caught in a situation where I could have had sex and didn't have a condom I learned then and there to always have one. |
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I only date women my age(60). Women my age have gone through menopause so I wouldn't need it.
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Ah, ok. I was asking, as you seem to think that the woman should be responsible for it, so I thought you may have an idea of what you thought they should be using. actually I think personally men are responsible for it. I have always been responsible for having a condom. I never met a girl that said they had condoms. I only every had 1 person taking the pill and that was a relationship and she didn't want to use condoms anymore. that part is true, usually men are responsible for getting the condoms and the lube if needed. |
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Edited by
Simonedemidova
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Sat 06/11/11 11:36 PM
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whoop there it is....whoop there it is....
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Ah, ok. I was asking, as you seem to think that the woman should be responsible for it, so I thought you may have an idea of what you thought they should be using. actually I think personally men are responsible for it. I have always been responsible for having a condom. I never met a girl that said they had condoms. I only every had 1 person taking the pill and that was a relationship and she didn't want to use condoms anymore. As I've already said earlier, if I think I'm going to have sex, I'm going to have condoms. Not all men have condoms when needed. So, just because you do and you've never been with a woman who has brought a condom, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. How do you know you've only been with one person who was on the pill? Does that conversation come up every time? because the people i have been with were not 1 time things. One way or another it comes up. I don't think its any more private a question than do you have a condom. And I didn't always use to carry one. When I was caught in a situation where I could have had sex and didn't have a condom I learned then and there to always have one. I don't remember saying I was talking about one time things. I never said it was a private question, either. I just don't see a lot of guys asking about it, especially if condoms are being used. I find it hard to believe you've never met a woman who has ever had condoms and only one that has ever been on birth control. |
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Women are born with all the eggs they're going to have. Men are continuously making sperm, even if it's deteriorating as they get older. Men want the say-so in what women do with their bodies, but aren't going to stand up and accept half the responsibility, including birth control pills. Then they wonder why women are telling them to F off, when it comes to decision making for carrying a pregnancy to term? If men took up half the responsibility with regards to birth control, then there would be some fairness in allowing them some rights to decide whether a baby should be carried to term. So you are in agreement if the unless the law changes they should be less responsible for birth control? No, I'm saying if men want more say-so, then they need to step up with a better way to prevent pregnancy. Condoms aren't 100% either, and while I commend a man who has them and carries them and uses them, pregnancies are mostly happening to those who don't. |
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Male birth control? I still find the best method is a bad attitude wrapped in negativity. Those swimmers never get in the pool. |
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Male birth control? I still find the best method is a bad attitude wrapped in negativity. Those swimmers never get in the pool. |
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I like the idea that a man would not have to rely on a female partner to take her pill - to give both genders somewhat more equal empowerment regarding pregnancy prevention
on the other hand although tests may show sperm production going back to normal after tests on mice. I know myself, I am not planning to boink any mice any time soon... so I would stil be concerned about long term usage affects on sperm production and sperm quality as well as longer term effects on libido - we defintely do no want to neuter people just because they are sexually active |
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If we agree that its 'our body' when we get pregnant (which I dont)
its consistent to accept that its 'our body' to protect from pregnancy |
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If we agree that its 'our body' when we get pregnant (which I dont) its consistent to accept that its 'our body' to protect from pregnancy Then again, there are many men who want to have a say in it as well. So, if they want to have a say in what goes on, why not take part in using birth control as well? That being said, I am fine with protecting myself from pregnancy. Even if guys were able to start taking a male birth control pill, I'm not sure I'd rely on that. Then again, like I said above, it would be nice for them to have a bit more control over birth control if they're not ready to have kids. |
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I agree. When it comes to contraception, pregnancy, and having children, there is fine line between "me" and "we".
If you have a "me" attitude, then you should do everything possible to protect yourself. If you don't want to have a child, then take the proper steps to avoid conception. If you don't want to be infected by an STD (they changed the term, but I forget what the new one is), then take the proper precautions to avoid receiving one. Gender doesn't matter. Be responsible enough to act in your own best interests even if you don't care who your partner is. Simple right? If you have a "we" attitude, then there needs to be some communication. If even one of you doesn't want a child, then both of you should act accordingly. Like I said, the more forms of contraception used, the less chance of pregnancy. Don't rely on any one method. Still simple, right? Because of the logic, a "me" and a "we" should be able to have sex without worrying about an unwanted pregnancy. Unfortunately, too many of us are short-sighted or just can't be bothered. That is the problem that truly needs to be addressed. It's a sign of laziness, apathy, and irresponsibility....especially to one's self regardless of one's partner. |
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I think if you are going to have sex (and both have agreed not want kids), then it's both parties responsibility!
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I think if you are going to have sex (and both have agreed not want kids), then it's both parties responsibility! I think it starts with self, but I agree adults who dont want to be parents (taking the gender out of it) should WEAR/Use the protection available for THEIR BODIES |
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