You're missing the point there. It's not about that the rich can do what they want. That's a WHOLE different issue. The 'rich' are supporting themselves and being productive parts of society. The idea is that taxpayers are effectively supporting drug users who should/could be working and by NOT drug testing, encouraging them to continue their habits.

Addiction does not care about class status.......

were going to spend the money anyway...on help or jail

just makes sense to help people with addictions rather

than punish

anyone who has ever had an addiction or loves someone

with an addiction SHOULD be able to understand that

try to get past the 'bad parent' and think of their children

it's not the kids fault

we CAN help, if we want

if we can stop pointing fingers and actually know that these

people, not all maybe but some want a better life

as fellow humans, they deserve better

I have a brain, I know how to use it. I'm not a mindless robot who will quote tripe, just to appease the masses.

Listen.... I like you. I have nothing against you. I know I am taking an unpopular stance here. But I just feel it's un-fair. That's all......

That's absolutely true, but has nothing to do with the idea of drug testing for welfare.

if and when the addicts die..the kids becoming wards of the state is funded by taxpayer money
if and when the addict ends up in jail, is also supported by taxpayer money
why not put the money to better use and actually um, help?!?!

Certainly. We're all entitled to our opinions. Believe me, I'm in support of sterilization for a whole lot of reasons, including not needing 10 kids. Rich or poor.

As opposed to what? Corporations? Either way.....addicts will get high.....regardless of status or anything else......... Take away the drug trade and our economy will collapse. It's how we funded all these "secret wars" in the 80's. It funds our economy now. It will not go away.....no matter what we do........

It may get to that point. I probably wouldn't have a hard time if funds we're going to help get people clean. However, I do have a problem with someone using it for drugs if they're supposedly starving and have starving kids.

I was on food stamps for a while, and would have had no issues taking a piss test. Still wouldn't. I have to say, I was rather appalled at the way others get around it. I'm driving a Ford Focus and they want me to get rid of the car, or else I get $40.00 a month. I see people sitting in their $50K SUV and they get $300.00 a month. They can pop for a drug test, or sell the SUV.

the difference in the rich and poor is that the rich use their own money when those that want welfare are using tax payers money. Why should the tax payers be ok with this? If someone uses drugs, then they will have to deal with the consequences. Yes people get addicted, but they are the ones that did drugs. I do believe there needs to be help out there because I think that would help a lot of people, BUT there are a lot of tax payers living pay check to paycheck as it

That's the whole idea of requiring treatment to receive any assistance. If they want to collect welfare, they have to get clean. If they're clean, they just might become 'productive' citizens. I'm sure there's also some hidden political agendas there though. For instance- Do drugs....You don't get money (government keeps it and uses it for something more to their liking like taking over the world). If you don't do drugs, maybe you'll get a job (still not getting free money and instead paying taxes and giving more money to the government in order to take over the world).

an important fact is forgotten when talking about an addicts priorities....

um, addiction

I had an older friend at work who was laid off for two years. His unemployment had ran out couldnt find a job an applied for food stamps.

I am not sure why exactly he was denied I think it was because he had to many assets or something like that.

However the social worker told him if he were a drug addict he coul qualify for alot of aid but other than that they could do nothing for him.


My long time Gf is a drug counselor/socail worker. many of her "clients" get dental work done on tax payers dime and medical care and are drug users and abusers.

If you are complient with treatment it is a fairly generouse system.

Not sure if drug testing is a good thing or bad thing for food stamp reciepients. Its good if it inceases aid to those in need who do not do drugs a bad thing if it forces drug users to commit crimes.


Two sides to every coin and not sure what the blow back will be.

they have to want the help first... you can't force someone to quit drugs if they have no urge to...

agreed

Food stamps apply to only one thing.....food. You cannot buy drugs or alcohol or tobacco with food stamps. I am a recipient. I get $45 a month in food stamps. I use them to buy food....... I am a recovering drug addict also. So are many wealthy people. I don''t wanna' be judged as less important cuz' I am poor. Charlie Sheen makes 1.5 mil. an episode and buys cocaine by the briefcase. I am just a humble man living a humble life........

Not sure how food stamps are done there, but I know people on them here. They are given a debit card and a specific amount is put on the card monthly. You can use it for anything that except debit cards.

I don't look down on anyone because they are addicts or rich/poor, but the tax payers shouldn't support people without drug testing. They are (in a sense) employees of tax payers. Just like business might do drug testings. Why should this be any different?

I think I will get really stoned and walk over to the Kroger. I will be buying a T-bone steak and crab legs on food stamps. God Bless America.........