Anybody can be persecuted. Blacks, Chinese, Indians, Jews....
And they have been but particularly the Jews. If you really
want to know about it read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Inquisition-Fifteenth-Century-Spain/dp/0940322390/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308613924&sr=8-1

In the case of the Inquisition it was because the Jews did not
believe the religious doctrine...and this seems to be typical.

It is important to remember that a full 6 million Jews - half of
the world's Jewish population at the time were executed in the
the Second World War for no reason except that they followed the
wrong religion. White Jews, Mideast Jews, Hungarian Jews etc.

It was an unprecedented vicious slaughter of genocide in terms of
scale and ferocity and we can all learn something from it. The
first thing we can learn is to distrust Jew-hate talk, talk of
global domination conspiracies or disparaging speech about largely
Jewish movements like Zionism.

I have a few books I would like you to read but you won't.

So just forget about it.

I probably read them or the equivalent already.

So then you are an expert on this subject? Why are you such an expert?

Actually they were not persecuted for practicing their religion but because of their business practices. Religion is always the "excuse" for war and slaughter, but the real reason for war is always MONEY and POWER.

MONEY AND POWER.

Its not about religion at all.

Those with the money and power were the ones doing the killing.
The Nazis and the Inquisitors. The Money and Power stuff is again
straight out of the false Protocols of the Elders of Zion and
the despicable equally false antisemitic articles from Der Sturmer.

Disgusting.

Those with the money and power were the ones doing the killing.
The Nazis and the Inquisitors. The Money and Power stuff is again
straight out of the false Protocols of the Elders of Zion and
the despicable equally false antisemitic articles from Der Sturmer.

Disgusting.

The new eligibility rules for your free trip to Israel now states that you have to have one Jewish parent. (It used to be a Jewish mother, not father. They changed it.)

All this means is that they are open to various levels of religious
observance. They want to invite Jewish people to have a connection
to Israel. Nothing sinister here. They have a special program to
assist Jews in coming to their country. Fine.

That is not correct. The Jews money and property was taken from them, they were not allowed to own land, etc.

There were rich and powerful Zionists who were participating in the persecution of Jews in Germany.

The Protocols have never been proven false. In fact everything in them has come to pass, the central banking systems owns and controls everything. The FED is a privately owned entity. It has no connection to the United States. Read a book called "The Fed." I have a hard back copy I will send you.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was a tribunal established in 1480 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms, and to replace the Medieval Inquisition which was under Papal control. The Inquisition was originally intended in large part to ensure the orthodoxy of those who converted from Judaism and Islam. This regulation of the faith of the newly converted was intensified after the royal decrees issued in 1492 and 1501 ordering Jews and Muslims to convert or leave. Nobody expected it.

Various motives have been proposed for the monarchs' decision to fund the Inquisition such as increasing political authority, weakening opposition, suppressing conversos, profiting from confiscation of the property of convicted heretics, reducing social tensions and protecting the kingdom from the danger of a fifth column.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Although the Inquisition was technically forbidden from permanently harming or drawing blood, this still allowed for methods of torture. The methods most used were garrucha, toca and the potro. The application of the garrucha, also known as the strappado, consisted of suspending the victim from the ceiling by the wrists, which are tied behind the back. Sometimes weights were tied to the ankles, with a series of lifts and drops, during which the arms and legs suffered violent pulls and were sometimes dislocated.[66] The toca, also called interrogatorio mejorado del agua, consisted of introducing a cloth into the mouth of the victim, and forcing them to ingest water spilled from a jar so that they had the impression of drowning (see: waterboarding).[67] The potro, the rack, was the instrument of torture used most frequently.[68]

The assertion that "confessionem esse veram, non factam vi tormentorum" (literally: ((a person's)) confession is truth, not made by way of torture.) sometimes follows a description of how, after torture had ended, the subject freely confessed to the offenses.[69] Thus, all confession acquired by means of torture were considered completely valid as they were supposedly made of the confessor's own free will.

This was posted to prove to you that "being Jewish" is not just a religion like you said.

It is a bloodline. It is a FAMILY.

Protocols = FALSE

Numerous citations. Good Grief!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent, antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for achieving global domination. It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the twentieth century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies which were distributed throughout the United States in the 1920s.

Adolf Hitler was a major proponent. It was studied, as if factual, in German classrooms after the Nazis came to power in 1933, despite having been exposed as fraudulent years before. In the opinion of historian Norman Cohn, the Protocols was Hitler's primary justification for initiating the Holocaust — his "warrant for genocide."[1]

The Protocols purports to document the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting of Jewish leaders discussing their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies. It is still widely available today, often offered as a genuine document, on the Internet and in print, in numerous languages.

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The fact that you keep insisting on the authenticity of the Protocols despite overwhelming evidence of its fabrication as
a method of Jewish persecution at once astonishes me and sickens
me. It was one of Hitler's favorite lies.

Here is another thing to think about. If the protocols was completely fabricated to make Zionism or Jews "look bad" someone sure hatched a pretty good plan and someone else adopted that plan and those methods for infiltrating countries all over the world. And they are still doing it.

It is called "the brotherhood of the snake."

I know, you think it doesn't exist.

What overwhelming evidence are you referring to?

A few people's opinions and a wikipedia cut and paste is certainly NOT evidence.

Do you know the name of the person who declared it to be a forgery?
Do you know what HIS bloodline or politics are?

The Protocols....

http://thompkins_cariou.tripod.com/id68.html

Maybe that is why you posted it but it doesn't prove squat.
Just because Israel has a program to help Jews visit Israel,
this does not change the definition of what a Jew is!



To be Jewish means that you have some form of Judaism as your
religion. There are many converts. It is no more of a family
than any other religion.



There are Jews of every ethnicity. Asian, African, Russian, Indian
etc. etc. Just like Christians - Just like Muslims - Just like
Buddhist or Taoists or Hindus...

It has been known as a forgery for about 90 years. I learned about
it in High School history. Read the Wiki article and
it gives a lot of the sources. Not really disputable.

That issue was settled ages ago.

Wait a sec and I will look it up in the Wiki article...

Literary forgery

The forgery contains numerous elements typical of what is known in literature as a "false document": a document that is deliberately written to fool the reader into believing that what is written is truthful and accurate even though, in actuality, it is not.[6] It is also one of the best-known and most-discussed examples of literary forgery, with analysis and proof of its fraudulent origin going as far back as 1921.[7] The forgery is also an early example of "Conspiracy Theory" literature.[8] Written mainly in the first person plural,[9] the text embodies generalizations, truisms and platitudes on how to take over the world: take control of the media and the financial institutions, change the traditional social order, etc. It does not contain specifics.[citation needed]

Maurice Joly

Elements of the Protocols were plagiarized from Joly's fictional Dialogue in Hell, a thinly-veiled attack on the political ambitions of Napoleon III, who, represented by the non-Jewish character Machiavelli,[10] plots to rule the world. Joly, a monarchist and legitimist, was imprisoned in France for 15 months as a direct result of his book's publication. Ironically, scholars have noted that Dialogue in Hell was itself a plagiarism, at least in part, of a novel by Eugene Sue, Les Mystères du Peuple (1849–1856).[11]

Ref 7 is here:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/hoax.html

The article by Graves on the hoax was published in the NY Times
in 1921:



Pretty much it is a standard lie of antisemites to justify mistreatment of Jews. Hitler and Goebbels loved it! But it is all a lot of toe jam
of course.



More from the Wiki...

Further reading

Stephen Eric Bronner: A Rumor About the Jews: Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (Oxford University Press, 2003) ISBN 0-19-516956-5
Chanes, Jerome A., Antisemitism: a reference handbook, ABC-CLIO, 2004
Eisner, Will: The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. ISBN 0393060454
Hagemeister, Michael: "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Between History and Fiction - Hagemeister 35 (1103)". Retrieved 2009-09-15.
Hagemeister, Michael. The 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' and the Myth of a Jewish Conspiracy in Post Soviet Russia, in: Brinks, Jan Herman; Rock, Stella; Timms, Edward (ed.): Nationalist Myths and Modern Media. Contested Identities in the Age of Globalization, London / New York 2006, pp. 243–255.
Jacobs, Steven Leonard and Weitzman, Mark: Dismantling the Big Lie: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. (2003) ISBN 0-88125-785-0
Lüthi, Urs: Der Mythos von der Weltverschwörung: die Hetze der Schweizer Frontisten gegen Juden und Freimaurer, am Beispiel des Berner Prozesses um die "Protokolle der Weisen von Zion" (Basel: Helbing & Lichtenhahn, 1992), ISBN 3719011976 9783719011970, OCLC: 30002662
Katz, Steven; Landes, Richard (eds.): Reconsidering 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion': 100 Years After the Forgery, New York 2008 (in print)
Kis, Danilo: The Book Of Kings And Fools in The Encyclopedia of the Dead, 1989 (Faber and Faber)
Goldberg, Isaac: The so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion": a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
Shibuya, Eric, "The Struggle with Right-Wing Extremist Groups in the United States, in Countering terrorism and insurgency in the 21st century, vol 3, Forest, James (Ed.), Greenwood Publishing Group, 2007
Stauber, Roni; Webman, Esther (eds.): The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - The One-Hundred Year Myth and Its Impact, Tel Aviv 2008 (in print)
Timmerman, Kenneth R.: Preachers of Hate: Islam and the War on America (2003), Crown Forum. ISBN 1-4000-4901-6
Wolf, Lucien: The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).
The truth about "The Protocols" : a literary forgery (1921) The original Times articles exposing the book collected in a contemporary pamphlet.
Bernstein, Herman (1921): The History of a Lie at Project Gutenberg As page images at archive.org Internet Archive: Details: The history of a lie, "The protocols of the wise men of Zion"; a study Archive.org. Retrieved on 2009-02-01

I am not the one who did the changing of the definition of "what a Jew is." I was just showing you and quoting from an Israeli web site, that this is what the Israeli Nationalist (Zionist) are defining what a Jew is.

I don't actually agree that this is true or should be true, it is just what THEY are defining a Jew to be.



I agree with you. To be Jewish is all about Judaism. Or it should be. Yes there are converts. In fact the white Jews governing Israel have been said to be descendants of a race(bloodline/Family) who actually converted to Judaism for their own political purposes many years ago.

People with a Jewish mother or Father should not be considered "Jewish" if they do not practice Judaism,so why are they? According to the Israeli Nationalist/Zionists they say that you qualify as a "Jew" if you are in "The family."

I know that all of Judaism or all "Jewish" people are not of the same family or bloodlines or even race as you mentioned.

Also, converting to Judaism is a long complicated process. They (the Zionist) don't really seek out converts because they aren't really practicing Judaism, (most of them are just pretending to be Jewish.)

Protocols:

"As far as 'authenticity' is concerned, the outcome of the trial of Berne is, as we have explained, negative : the prosecution did not succeed in proving that the 'Protocols' were false. But, legally, the defence is not required to prove the authenticity of an impugned document ; it is up to the prosecution to prove its falsity. "

If you use the term "anti-semitic" it shows me that you are either in league with their political cause or you are just reacting to your own programming.

If a Gentile exposes Zionism, they are called "anti-semitic" which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide the Zionists actions.

But, if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, they resort to other tactics.

(You resorted to calling them "extremists." How are they extremists except that they are resisting and objecting to Zionism??