That didn't happen.

New date: Oct. 21, 2011

But I am reading this book (just started reading it) and I found a similar date for what the Mayan Calender marks as "the end of the creation"

It is a book written by Carl Johan Calleman, Ph.D. called "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness"

Page XX in the prefix:

He names the Date of the completion of the cosmic plan. It is day 13 Ahau, October 28, 2011.

So I remembered that there was a new date offered by that old pastor Harold Camping and so I looked it up and his date is Oct. 21 2011.

Pretty close huh?

This book I'm reading was published in 2004. I'm anxious to find out what its about but its more about the beginning of the golden age and the transformation of human consciousness than the doom and gloom of the end of the world.

I'll keep you informed what I think about it. A book review.

So you are saying that two devinely inspired people came up with the same date, from two totally different religions.

Except the divinities, the gods, are not in close harmony, they are seven days apart.

This tells me that Gods are American. At least they had had an American science education in math.

They probably spell their own name as "D-o-g".

Aside from that, while it's true that this is a near-miss, the Oct 21 and Oct 28, but there are literally millions of much widerly differenciated date-shifts. So this is nothing more than mere coincidence, at least in my opinion.

There was a lecture I saw on youtube before, where a guy made the case that what the Bible referred to as the coming of the son of man, really meant a change in consciousness, it was highly intriguing. Take a look and see what you think if you feel so inclined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqUJtKWubAI&feature=player_embedded

That's Part 1, can find the rest on the site.

wux, mere coincidence, probably.

I'm reading the book and a lot of it is way over my head with stuff that makes my eyes glaze over... but I'm going to skim to some part where I might find his over-all conclusions.... and get back to you.

Kleisto,
Thanks for the link.

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And a side note, something that came to my attention today:

There are two observatories in the world that have set out these things that detect this unknown energy that is coming into our world, into our planet from a location outside of our solar system.

I have some information on in at my website that I put up a few years ago. I will find the link to that...

Anyway, I noticed one of their detectors on the way to Lamar today and remembered what it was...

I want to visit the observatory and ask them about this project. By the way the two observatories are here in Colorado, (Lamar) and somewhere in Australia I believe.

Here is the link to my article on my home town website:


http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/auger.html

Here is a direct link to their site:

http://www.auger.org/


The Pierre Auger
Cosmic Ray Observatory
is studying ultra-high energy cosmic rays,
the most energetic and rarest of particles in
the universe. When these particles strike the
earth's atmosphere, they produce extensive air
showers made of billions of secondary particles.
While much progress has been made in nearly a century
of research in understanding cosmic rays with low to moderate
energies, those with extremely high energies remain mysterious.

The Pierre Auger Observatory is working on solving these mysteries.

From their site.

thats about the time comet elenin will be closest to us...


from what i can tell, oct. 17 is the day it will be closest to us

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010+X1&orb=1

(type in C/2010 X1 the search box)

READ THE BIBLE ITS ALL IN THERE WHAT GOD YOUR CREATOR WANTS YOU TO KNOW,THERE ARE NO DATES IN THE BIBLE WHEN THE WORLD WILL COME TO AN END AS WE KNOW IT,BUT DOES GIVE SIGNES OF THE END TIMES TO LOOK OUT FOR WHEN JESUS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR COMES BACK (HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE AND NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM)HE IS OUR SALVATION, HE PAID THE PRICE IN FULL FOR OUR SIN AT THE CROSS OF CALVERY,ALL WE NEED TO DO IS REPENT,ASK HIM INTO OUR HEART,WE ARE THEN FORGIVEN AS WE HAVE ALL GONE OUR OWN WAY IN LIFE AND WE ARE ALL SINNERS THERE IS NOT ONE RIGHTOUS.GOD LOVE YOU AND WANTS YOU TO COME TO HIM.

Who's Jesus?

What is he saving us from?

If he paid for our 'sins' in full, then why is no one righteous?

Also, if no one is righteous, including yourself, then why should anyone trust anything you have to say? I mean, seeing that you're confessing to be an unrighteous person and thus untrustworthy.

Kleisto, I listened to these videos and they were very interesting!

I too always wondered why Christians claimed that Jesus was the "son of man" and also the "son of David" and yet also the "son of God." That never made any sense.

Interesting how he says that "son of man" means humanity itself. It means the coming of enlightenment or the Christ mind.

It denotes humanity or "SELF." The expression "son of man" originates from the country of Iraq around 5000 BC. (Before Christ!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bytb6FRu44&feature=related

Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David who opens the seven seals:

Christianity claims that this is Jesus.
But he can't be because he is not root of David or the son of David.
Jesus can't be the son of God and the son of Man and the son of David and the tribe of Judah etc. They can't have it all.

Its ridiculous that they would interpret these things this way.
Any time the Bible speaks of someone they don't know who it is, they claim that it must be "Jesus." But that makes no sense.

Of course a lot of things Christians believe make no real sense, so that does not surprise me.

So the tribe of Judah, The Bible, says, is the tribe of LIGHT!

And guess how many members the Bible says are in the tribe of light?
186,400!

186,400 members are in the tribe of Judah which is also the speed of light. --(Bradley's Stellar Aberration.)

So the number of people in the "tribe of light," (tribe of Judah) is the speed of light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YcfKXXJBRI&feature=related
He says he things that Eta Carinae is the seventh angel.

Back to the The Pierre Auger Cosmic Ray Observatory



Last event recorded by the observatory on their website: June 2 20ll:

http://auger.colostate.edu/ED/index.php?evid=11851400


I am wondering if these "cosmic rays" being recorded could be coming from Eta Carinae.

P.S.

Concerning the book I am reading about the Mayan Calander:

I have to admit, I simply can't understand it. But it comes to the same conclusion that what is coming is a change of consciousness of man.

Not the end of the world.

The world is not coming to an end.

I believe we are entering the "Golden Age of enlightenment."

So, be enlightened.

Weren't they though? The guy really did his homework, a lot of what he said blew me away when I first saw it.

There's quite a few other videos you can find on youtube as well. In fact there's another one you may find interesting, about what happens to the soul after death. That's another good one, am gonna open a new thread on that subject.

Very clever how you twisted the truth there,now i wont be argueing with you about this as you will just twist what i tell you again,what i will say, is that we are all unrighteous untill we repent of our sin and believe Jesus paid the price for our sin in full on the coss, and said it is finished ,he took our place so we dont have to pay our debt of sin and spend eternity with out him,he is the lamb of God that was taken to the slaughter for us,he was sinless,righteous,a perfect sacrifice and only he could take our place so we can be reconciled to God our Father again,he is our mediator between us and God,he came to set us free from sin and death.I am righteous through Jesus in Gods eyes through Jesus my Lord and saviour because i am forgiven, past, present, and future sin,the only person who was and is perfect to walk this earth is JESUS and him only, he gave and wrote the bible so we can know him,not to judge him without first finding who he is,give him a chance ask him what ever you want he will show up,check out shake the nations and see what power our God has and is proving to the world how much he loves us.there are other christian sites too or if your brave enough there are churches to go and have a listen too.i dont need to prove to you about my God he can do this himself if you let him and ask him,his love for you is deeper than the ocean and wider than the sea,if you were the only one on this earth he would still have given his one and only son Jesus to die for you and save you.There will not be, and should never be any debate about almighty God who is creator of heaven and earth,he should also be feared because of who he is,and also judgment on that day,because it will come,and i wouldn wish it on anyone to be stood before him on that day ,the bible tells us this will happen,and every idle word spoken about him will be brought up by him,if any one wants to know him its all in the bible,there are churches ,there is God channel,there are preaches to go and listen too which is what i did myself,God Bless you x.

Elegance888

There is really no way to tell exactly WHO you are talking to. And I looked and I can't really find anyone who has "twisted" your words.

I understand that you are of the Christian faith and you believe what you are saying but its not really what we are talking about in this thread.

p.s. You sound as if you are terrified of God, or as if you want everyone else to also be terrified of God. I wonder why.

Are you brave enough to watch this?

Its called "God is not a nice person"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1sQm0XTkVg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.wholepersonwholeplanet.com/_private/articles/We Are The Ones We Have Been Waiting For.pdf