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I agree with both artlo and J. I don't agree with calling what's happening a lynch mob. OP, did you know anyone who lost their life or was injured on 9/11? Do you have any family or friends who have been deployed overseas because of this man? Do you have any idea of the amount of death and destruction this man has brought to this country? If yes, I'm sure you can understand, at least in some way, why people are reacting the way they are. I live near the Naval Academy and went over there the other night after the President announced that Bin Laden was dead. There was lots of hugging, high fives and tons of emotion going on there that night. It was a pretty awesome sight to see. These guys are training to be part of our military, to be able to defend our country. They put their lives on the line to protect us from people like Bin Laden. I can absolutely see why they were celebrating. I've also had both friends and family who have been deployed overseas for months and years because of this man. I have absolute respect for them and am hoping more troops can come home now. I'm sorry you feel shame for the way people have reacted. Are we actually supposed to feel sad that he's dead? Would you like us to mourn his death for some reason? Do you realize the grief he has caused this country and what people have gone through because of him? Do you expect people to just forget all of that and ignore it? People have reacted the way they have because they love this country. I see no problem with being happy because someone like him is now dead after all that has happened. Unfortunately, you feel the need to put people down, which I really have to wonder about. |
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Dancing and Lynching are not the same thing, when you get an A on a test at school , do you LYNCH? WTF? I saw with my own eyes that second plane go into that tower and bodies jumping out the windows...(on live tv) and that was enough to make me wanna kill someone---I thought the first crash was an accident but as news covered it in live time---and I realized what was happening. and for him to come outright and claim responsibilty---HELL YEAH THERES A DANCE IN ORDER!!!! Perhaps if he was a rapist and got a hold of your daughter your opinions may differ....(funny how some people remain numb when their inner circle is not affected) We defended our country from future destruction...We have lost a lot of Service men as a result, and they have lost a lot of sanity and limbs for those who have survived....It's time for some repercussions, and apparently HE KNEW It, OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HIDING> A SO CALLED MARTYR----HIDING and letting everyone else do his dirty work and yet praised as a MARTYR for his country-- BITE ME! Does anyone remember that movie, THREE KINGS with GEORGE CLOONEY! How the arabs poured OIL down their throats while our soldiers tried to help their people get free....Some of you should rent that film, you might learn something. 
We no longer live by the draft, i've never met a soldier who didn't volunteer to be in the service--and who was not proud to go out and do what they did out there...the ones who were drafted like my grandparents---were very proud to serve in the military in their time... Have you talked to any soldiers? The ones I have known have chosen to serve and are very proud of serving the country. |
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I'm not quite sure how to answer this post. Whether to sugar coat it or just come right out & say what I'm really thinking. First thing in the morning doesn't settle well with me at the moment. You have every right to think , feel, speak however you wish & I have that same right. Many have put their lives on the line & died for those rights. Sometimes you have to celebrate ones death to have less deaths to mourn. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot...burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Seems there's been more than enough loss of our loved ones to celebrate Osamas death. I'm not exactly dancing in the streets but I'm not mourning either. JMHO
This isn't a race issue. It's war. Plus, the glove didn't fit! |
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Edited by
Jess642
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Wed 05/04/11 03:33 AM
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Are we actually supposed to feel sad that he's dead? Would you like us to mourn his death for some reason? Do you realize the grief he has caused this country and what people have gone through because of him? Do you expect people to just forget all of that and ignore it? People have reacted the way they have because they love this country. I see no problem with being happy because someone like him is now dead after all that has happened. Unfortunately, you feel the need to put people down, which I really have to wonder about. Perhaps it is not the death insomuch, as the dance of Vengeance...not justice....that has much of the world viewing America in a disparaging way. It is also the attitude of 'Collateral Damage' that the world is led to believe your countrymen prescribe to...that over a million people have lost their lives....off US Soil in these long, costly tedious wars....all targeted to apparently liberate a country from tyranny...and to hunt down a figurehead. Do you realise the grief your country has caused other people of THEIR countries because of your wars? A pretty hollow victory dance, in the eyes of orphaned Iraqis, and widows of Afganistan.....of innocent 'Collateral Damage'....and in many of the world's eyes. |
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Are we actually supposed to feel sad that he's dead? Would you like us to mourn his death for some reason? Do you realize the grief he has caused this country and what people have gone through because of him? Do you expect people to just forget all of that and ignore it? People have reacted the way they have because they love this country. I see no problem with being happy because someone like him is now dead after all that has happened. Unfortunately, you feel the need to put people down, which I really have to wonder about. Perhaps it is not the death insomuch, as the dance of Vengeance...not justice....that has much of the world viewing America in a disparaging way. It is also the attitude of 'Collateral Damage' that the world is led to believe your countrymen prescribe to...that over a million people have lost their lives....off US Soil in these long, costly tedious wars....all targeted to apparently liberate a country from tyranny...and to hunt down a figurehead. Do you realise the grief your country has caused other people of THEIR countries because of your wars? A pretty hollow victory dance, in the eyes of orphaned Iraqis, and widows of Afganistan.....of innocent 'Collateral Damage'....and in many of the world's eyes. What about the children here who have lost parents due to 9/11 or the wars? Or people who have lost family members or friends because of that? Or the people who have given up normal lives to defend the country because of that? For some of them, at least now there is some sort of closure. I'd love to see troops come home now. |
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What about the children here who have lost parents due to 9/11 or the wars? Or people who have lost family members or friends because of that? Or the people who have given up normal lives to defend the country because of that? For some of them, at least now there is some sort of closure. I'd love to see troops come home now. I mourn the loss of all lives...your people's, my people's...and every single one that was an innocent. I mourn for all the mothers, fathers, children... What happened on 9/11 was a travesty....an abhorrence....vicious, callous, and cruel. What has come since, has mirrored it. |
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Edited by
singmesweet
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Wed 05/04/11 05:30 AM
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People will react in different ways. Some are not going to agree with others, or understand why they celebrate. All I can do is suggest for those who don't understand to try to see it from a different point of view. If you haven't, visit to Ground Zero one day. Or go see the memorial at the Pentagon and walk through the hall that was hit.
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Time repeats.
The first great attack on the US was at Pearl Harbor to start WWII. Approximately the same number of Americans were killed there as 9/11. The attack was planned and executed largely by Admiral Yamamoto of the Japanese navy. Before too long, the US broke the Japanese Naval code. This event led to our victory at Midway and turned the war to our favor. We learned from the code that Yamamoto was going to fly to an island and we had the time and place. We sent in several P38 fighters to shoot down his transport plane in flight. |
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The first great attack on the US was at Pearl Harbor to start WWII. Approximately the same number of Americans were killed there as 9/11. The attack was planned and executed largely by Admiral Yamamoto of the Japanese navy.
I saw that movie too. It's a wonderful war story.
Before too long, the US broke the Japanese Naval code. This event led to our victory at Midway and turned the war to our favor. We learned from the code that Yamamoto was going to fly to an island and we had the time and place. We sent in several P38 fighters to shoot down his transport plane in flight. Not really on-topic, though, is it? |
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I'm not quite sure how to answer this post. Whether to sugar coat it or just come right out & say what I'm really thinking. First thing in the morning doesn't settle well with me at the moment. You have every right to think , feel, speak however you wish & I have that same right. Many have put their lives on the line & died for those rights. Sometimes you have to celebrate ones death to have less deaths to mourn. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot...burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Seems there's been more than enough loss of our loved ones to celebrate Osamas death. I'm not exactly dancing in the streets but I'm not mourning either. JMHO
This isn't a race issue. It's war. Plus, the glove didn't fit!
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Perhaps it is not the death insomuch, as the dance of Vengeance...not justice....that has much of the world viewing America in a disparaging way. It is also the attitude of 'Collateral Damage' that the world is led to believe your countrymen prescribe to...that over a million people have lost their lives....off US Soil in these long, costly tedious wars....all targeted to apparently liberate a country from tyranny...and to hunt down a figurehead. Do you realise the grief your country has caused other people of THEIR countries because of your wars? A pretty hollow victory dance, in the eyes of orphaned Iraqis, and widows of Afganistan.....of innocent 'Collateral Damage'....and in many of the world's eyes. Thank you Jess...my sentiments exactly. |
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Edited by
winterblue56
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Wed 05/04/11 08:00 AM
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Time repeats. The first great attack on the US was at Pearl Harbor to start WWII. Approximately the same number of Americans were killed there as 9/11. The attack was planned and executed largely by Admiral Yamamoto of the Japanese navy. Before too long, the US broke the Japanese Naval code. This event led to our victory at Midway and turned the war to our favor. We learned from the code that Yamamoto was going to fly to an island and we had the time and place. We sent in several P38 fighters to shoot down his transport plane in flight. We knew, without a shadow of a doubt, that it was "japanese" who bombed Pearl Harbor. There is no proof that it "was not" a grand scheme concocted by our own "trusted" government to take down the Twin Towers. Don't you remember all the hulla-ballau about "Mass Weapons"? ...which was the REASON for us going to war in the first place??? They found no weapons. And all of the sudden.......BAM! Guess who we got...well if it isn't Sadam Hussean. Lies and corruption from Nam on. |
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from my perspective, life is not sacred. I have no problem with living things becoming dead. Death is a part of life. It is suffering and loss that I mourn. It is about those left behind. How we react to the Bin Laden death is an individual thing. Some ways, I am comfortable. Some, I find quite distasteful. I can't say that any of these reactions are wrong. Is it revenge, is it justice? I don't really know the differnce.
The only part that I can really talk about is the families left behind, the friends left behind, the country left behind. How they feel and with what dignity and decorum they display. Whether they are better for what has happened, or worse. |
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Dancing and Lynching are not the same thing, when you get an A on a test at school , do you LYNCH? WTF? I saw with my own eyes that second plane go into that tower and bodies jumping out the windows...(on live tv) and that was enough to make me wanna kill someone---I thought the first crash was an accident but as news covered it in live time---and I realized what was happening. and for him to come outright and claim responsibilty---HELL YEAH THERES A DANCE IN ORDER!!!! Perhaps if he was a rapist and got a hold of your daughter your opinions may differ....(funny how some people remain numb when their inner circle is not affected) We defended our country from future destruction...We have lost a lot of Service men as a result, and they have lost a lot of sanity and limbs for those who have survived....It's time for some repercussions, and apparently HE KNEW It, OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HIDING> A SO CALLED MARTYR----HIDING and letting everyone else do his dirty work and yet praised as a MARTYR for his country-- BITE ME! Does anyone remember that movie, THREE KINGS with GEORGE CLOONEY! How the arabs poured OIL down their throats while our soldiers tried to help their people get free....Some of you should rent that film, you might learn something.
We no longer live by the draft, i've never met a soldier who didn't volunteer to be in the service--and who was not proud to go out and do what they did out there...the ones who were drafted like my grandparents---were very proud to serve in the military in their time... I dont think WE ACCUSED OSAMA of 9/11 he took credit for it. He also willingly took credit for several other acts of terror across the world....It's not some mythical accusation or a rumor/LIE it is what it is, charles manson and his party didnt kill very many people but they will still get the death penalty right. Osama was a murderer of the masses...Our soldiers volunteered their bravery by choice...they want to serve their country--they want to bring justice home to the americans and their families who are forever scarred by OSAMA'S reign of Terror! |
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We need to use his body and photos to make an example for other radical islamists to see. They need to know that the U.S. doesn't screw around, if you F with us we will kill you. I don't believe he should have received a muslim burial, he should have been displayed for people to see then cremated and his ashes put in an urn and placed in an undisclosed warehouse. |
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We need to use his body and photos to make an example for other radical islamists to see. They need to know that the U.S. doesn't screw around, if you F with us we will kill you. I don't believe he should have received a muslim burial, he should have been displayed for people to see then cremated and his ashes put in an urn and placed in an undisclosed warehouse. Yeah, osama didnt consider any religion when he blew everyone up... |
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There will be a price to pay -- what it will be is still to be seen. But remember, there is no free lynch.
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The first great attack on the US was at Pearl Harbor to start WWII. Approximately the same number of Americans were killed there as 9/11. The attack was planned and executed largely by Admiral Yamamoto of the Japanese navy.
I saw that movie too. It's a wonderful war story.
Before too long, the US broke the Japanese Naval code. This event led to our victory at Midway and turned the war to our favor. We learned from the code that Yamamoto was going to fly to an island and we had the time and place. We sent in several P38 fighters to shoot down his transport plane in flight. Not really on-topic, though, is it? Your comment just shows how little you understand, as well as your usual state of rudeness. In a war footing, the sending of P-38s to assassinate Yamamoto was no different from sending the Seals in to kill Bin Laden. There was no attempt to force the plane to land or to follow them to base. It was simply a mission to kill a leader. This leader planned a sneak attack on the US that killed about the same number of Americans as 9/11. And this event happened about fifty years ago. |
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Edited by
artlo
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Thu 05/05/11 10:25 AM
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I still don't understand your point. This is how wars are fought. from the beginning of time, the goal has been to kill or capture the top leadership of the enemy. This is not news to anybody. What are you trying to argue? Or do you even have an argument? Or was this just an opportunity to tell me how rude I am?
The topic is not about how we fight wars. he topic is about how the people at home react to a victory. You are off-topic. |
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I still don't understand your point. This is how wars are fought. from the beginning of time, the goal has been to kill or capture the top leadership of the enemy. This is not news to anybody. What are you trying to argue? Or do you even have an argument? Or was this just an opportunity to tell me how rude I am? The topic is not about how we fight wars. he topic is about how the people at home react to a victory. You are off-topic. i hate to admit it, but i agree with you here... cut off the head, the body dies... same with war, take out the leaders, and the rest should fall...i don't see any reason to be upset bin was taken out, it needed to be done, but it would have better 10 years ago... |
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