Maybe... but when I am letting it hang out over and above women, I don't want a friend right beside me then, to play chess or pool with.

Or maybe I don't understand your point.

I am a missionary man... and a nocturnal one at that. A nocturnal emissionary man.

I don't think he wants to compete. I think he is, instead, hoping to bum into George Michael. At the urinal, naturally.

Because we've been brought up in a society , which applauds immediate gratification, as opposed to real connecting.
Let's boff, then we'll talk--kind of; nah, let's boff, again.

Now, but seriously.

Many European men I met in real life in Norht America complained to me that they can't make friends with guys.

In Europe, all over, guys have a number of male friends, and women, women friends.

This shut down my theory that I had had for a long time, that men are lone hunters, not pack hunters, and women, are sociable gatherers. Women go to the washroom in couples, because they can defend better against a predator than if they were alone. Or they can call out for help to the herd of the nearby girls who heard them.

So, to this day, women go to the washroom in couples.

In north america girls also go to singles dances in couples, and guys almost always alone.

In my old country, even guys go in groups.

But there is a reason for that. In Hungary guys fight over girls. In fact, they fight you if you accidentally bump into them. Here the guy you bump into will say "sorry" and you say "excuse me."

So you don't need back-up to say "excuse me", but when fists and chairs and beer-bottles are flying, it's not good to be involved in the main bill of entertainment all alone.

So it's cultural, not only genetic. It's a child of necessity for European men to go to places together, and therefore it's necessary for them to have "friends". Here it's not, so guys don't bother to chase after just any old thing that moves, here guys like solitude or sex, no in-between.

myself... if i relied on this place for dates. my self esteem would be horrible!

for one as you can see how long i have been here.. this actually was a place to "meet new friends" they did have the same choices though back then.
again i am different... but actually i have had many emails with married men on here.. some of the most respectful guys overall if you ask me.. heck i have even talked to their wives as well.. on their emails as they read them together..
i do not seek out to just talk to married men.. nor just to talk to men alone.. i love meeting nice gals on here.. and i have no other intent than to be just friends with them. if i put on here just here for friends.. and put interested in women that would definitely not mean i am gay. or seeking a woman for anymore for what is simply put.. people use this site for what they want to.. not everyone has the same intents or ideas that others do.. everyone is individual..

I think people......carry over how it's percieved. It's probably due to the vast "oh you're gay/that's gay" attitude that's still around.
I've seen guys search out for other guys to be new friends and whatnot but by far it's guys seeking females and I think that "friendship" isn't the real thing they are seeking most of the time.

Is that why they do that?! I always wondered.Buttons! Buttons! Buttons! It's hard for me (knowing as little as I do about you) to believe that, with all the men on this site, You're not being approached by lots of good men.

ARE YOU FOR REAL?

Yeah, all the women in my friends listing are from getting to know them here. Men too, for that matter.

Yep, he is. I've heard that before too.

I would much rather find a nice female friend.

When I first signed up on here I was only looking for a woman to date.

Now that I found one, I have found the forums are still interesting. So far the only people I have friended are people I have interacted with in the forums.

So. I have a different focus now. A friend is just someone you like talking to or find interesting. That is certainly not exclusive to the opposite sex.

Part of he problem is that this is a dating site. I know I for one don't search other men's profiles because of that fact. I don't want them to think I want a date. The first guy that viewed my profile for some reason thought I was a woman. He sent an email asking me out. I replied asking if he knew I was a man. He was really sheepish then.

But yesterday was the first time I sent an email to another man. This was just to clarify what we were both talking about in the thread. You know, just getting to know each other. So easy to misunderstand someone when you don't know what they are about.

(psst... ask buttons how current her picture is.)

I have plenty of guy friends specifically from this site.

Everyone of them I have met and got to know on the forums. Here, you find out who is cool and who aint. After weeks or months of hanging out and building a form of friendship, I often find friends requests from guys cause they just like that I am easy going and tell it like it is or they just want some advise.

Gay or not has nothing to do with friendship. A friend is a friend....screw anyone elses perceptions or assumptions. They are the ones with the real issues.

touche!

Some of the friends I have here are men.

With my current pic, I get a lot of men trying to IM me.

Oh great! Thought you were one of the lesbians

I would make a great lesbian!
I fell in love with that picture and carry her around with me on a few sites.

Not entirely true, but surely men do have more friends and even girl-friends (not lovers) who hang out with large groups of men, although she may or may not be dating any of them. It's an entirely different thing when you have a country of less than 10 million ethnic (Hungary) origin (or any other smaller population countries) and not 307 million (USA) with all sorts of backgrounds.
The larger the society the less the trust is between each other. I can say I am an American and it will not guarantee that others who say they are American to feel any sort of social connection or identify with me, but if I say I'm a Hungarian, let's say on facebook, I can easily get 10 friends a week , let that be men or women, regardless if I'm single, married or dating. Same deal with Jewish people and other smaller ethnic groups around the world, there is that sense of belonging, and it gets stronger if the numbers are smaller. The fight over-the-women not always true, although there is more possibility in these smaller countries, and usually women -even if they deny it- likes it, because they feel they are worthy of something if their men is willing to take the risk to be beaten up, and the sense of protection they feel, which is basic instinct.