Topic: 'Pedophile Guide' Author Arrested
Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 09:31 PM







Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


Hell yea, those guys can NEVER be rehabilitated.

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 09:36 PM







Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


you barely know me, but you know and believe in me more than that, lol...

if you read my other post, referring to such, the answer was very clear.

hell no.




Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 09:37 PM








Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


you barely know me, but you know and believe in me more than that, lol...

if you read my other post, referring to such, the answer was very clear.

hell no.






It can be cleanly done with a clean drop gun.

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 09:41 PM









Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


you barely know me, but you know and believe in me more than that, lol...

if you read my other post, referring to such, the answer was very clear.

hell no.






It can be cleanly done with a clean drop gun.


lol...

you been watchin too much tv...

it twould be wise to heed one's one advice about being monitored and watched, for it twould be such a shame for one as yourself, with a precious daughter to raise and love, to be caught in in such notions, and to out oneself in position to jepordize one's one freedoms with such follish notions.

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 09:54 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 12/21/10 09:55 PM






if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 11:26 PM







if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.


msharmony's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:13 AM








if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.





where is he being held? a hotel?.....

I worry about freedom of expression (thoughts and opinions being legislated) AND kids being degraded

they arent mutually exclusive concerns,,,

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:27 AM









if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.





where is he being held? a hotel?.....

I worry about freedom of expression (thoughts and opinions being legislated) AND kids being degraded

they arent mutually exclusive concerns,,,


lol...

it would be the same essence.

imprisoned implies sentenced.

for one does not go to "prison", lest one has been convicted.

hence the two different terminologies created to denote the difference.

anyhow...

of course they are not.

however, one is not here creating new legislation or laws regarding freedom of speech.

rather one is using it to promote it, and to safegaurd it, as the basis of all freedom, and at the same time, encite more caring in people, to defend their fellow man, most the children.

so outcry is critical in such situations, lest one penning a new amendment to the constitution, lol...

that was the only point.

no matter how much you wish to think only of your own, and but try to disprove the validity of many that outcry over the rage of a wouldbe child rapist.


msharmony's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:35 AM










if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.





where is he being held? a hotel?.....

I worry about freedom of expression (thoughts and opinions being legislated) AND kids being degraded

they arent mutually exclusive concerns,,,


lol...

it would be the same essence.

imprisoned implies sentenced.

for one does not go to "prison", lest one has been convicted.

hence the two different terminologies created to denote the difference.

anyhow...

of course they are not.

however, one is not here creating new legislation or laws regarding freedom of speech.

rather one is using it to promote it, and to safegaurd it, as the basis of all freedom, and at the same time, encite more caring in people, to defend their fellow man, most the children.

so outcry is critical in such situations, lest one penning a new amendment to the constitution, lol...

that was the only point.

no matter how much you wish to think only of your own, and but try to disprove the validity of many that outcry over the rage of a wouldbe child rapist.




to clarify the context of what I posted(again)

Definition of IMPRISON
transitive verb
: to put in or as if in prison : confine


if one is not FREE , one can be said to be imprisoned


I cant prove or disprove validity of how anyone FEELS or what anyone wishes to cry or make an outcry about, I am simply of the personal philosophy that people are innocent until proven guilty and that labels should not be the sole determinant humans use to pass judgement on each other

I know little about him and I do not know what he read, I would hate for something I wrote to receive a taboo type label that incited the type of feelings towards me by people who didnt know me at all, such as those expressed here

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:45 AM











if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.





where is he being held? a hotel?.....

I worry about freedom of expression (thoughts and opinions being legislated) AND kids being degraded

they arent mutually exclusive concerns,,,


lol...

it would be the same essence.

imprisoned implies sentenced.

for one does not go to "prison", lest one has been convicted.

hence the two different terminologies created to denote the difference.

anyhow...

of course they are not.

however, one is not here creating new legislation or laws regarding freedom of speech.

rather one is using it to promote it, and to safegaurd it, as the basis of all freedom, and at the same time, encite more caring in people, to defend their fellow man, most the children.

so outcry is critical in such situations, lest one penning a new amendment to the constitution, lol...

that was the only point.

no matter how much you wish to think only of your own, and but try to disprove the validity of many that outcry over the rage of a wouldbe child rapist.




to clarify the context of what I posted(again)

Definition of IMPRISON
transitive verb
: to put in or as if in prison : confine


if one is not FREE , one can be said to be imprisoned


I cant prove or disprove validity of how anyone FEELS or what anyone wishes to cry or make an outcry about, I am simply of the personal philosophy that people are innocent until proven guilty and that labels should not be the sole determinant humans use to pass judgement on each other

I know little about him and I do not know what he read, I would hate for something I wrote to receive a taboo type label that incited the type of feelings towards me by people who didnt know me at all, such as those expressed here


without self judgement as to what is good and not good, there is no sanity.

and, sure you can deem anything valid, stupid, smart, funny, cute, anything you wish in the whole entire world.

and so can i.

lol...

your validitiy of essence on this regarding this wacho i do not concur with.

on this one.

that was the point, lol...

nobody told you what you "can't do", or shouldn't do, lol...

so why the need to defend that oneself "can do".

each opinion is expressed as per what oneself see's as the most and best approach to any matter.

when another's approach to some matter, is brought into question by another, such as you did mine, i simply explained what and how and why i deemed such as prudent.

thats all.

nothing personal as you wish to make everything, lol...




is everything about the dictionairy to you.

well no shitz brainiac.


msharmony's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:57 AM












if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.





where is he being held? a hotel?.....

I worry about freedom of expression (thoughts and opinions being legislated) AND kids being degraded

they arent mutually exclusive concerns,,,


lol...

it would be the same essence.

imprisoned implies sentenced.

for one does not go to "prison", lest one has been convicted.

hence the two different terminologies created to denote the difference.

anyhow...

of course they are not.

however, one is not here creating new legislation or laws regarding freedom of speech.

rather one is using it to promote it, and to safegaurd it, as the basis of all freedom, and at the same time, encite more caring in people, to defend their fellow man, most the children.

so outcry is critical in such situations, lest one penning a new amendment to the constitution, lol...

that was the only point.

no matter how much you wish to think only of your own, and but try to disprove the validity of many that outcry over the rage of a wouldbe child rapist.




to clarify the context of what I posted(again)

Definition of IMPRISON
transitive verb
: to put in or as if in prison : confine


if one is not FREE , one can be said to be imprisoned


I cant prove or disprove validity of how anyone FEELS or what anyone wishes to cry or make an outcry about, I am simply of the personal philosophy that people are innocent until proven guilty and that labels should not be the sole determinant humans use to pass judgement on each other

I know little about him and I do not know what he read, I would hate for something I wrote to receive a taboo type label that incited the type of feelings towards me by people who didnt know me at all, such as those expressed here


without self judgement as to what is good and not good, there is no sanity.

and, sure you can deem anything valid, stupid, smart, funny, cute, anything you wish in the whole entire world.

and so can i.

lol...

your validitiy of essence on this regarding this wacho i do not concur with.

on this one.

that was the point, lol...

nobody told you what you "can't do", or shouldn't do, lol...

so why the need to defend that oneself "can do".

each opinion is expressed as per what oneself see's as the most and best approach to any matter.

when another's approach to some matter, is brought into question by another, such as you did mine, i simply explained what and how and why i deemed such as prudent.

thats all.

nothing personal as you wish to make everything, lol...




is everything about the dictionairy to you.

well no shitz brainiac.




no, but communication is about understanding which does require an understanding of context and definition,,,

I try to make mine clear and correct any misinterpretations,,


Seakolony's photo
Wed 12/22/10 04:05 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Wed 12/22/10 04:10 AM








Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


you barely know me, but you know and believe in me more than that, lol...

if you read my other post, referring to such, the answer was very clear.

hell no.

That's what I was responding to was the notion that anyone accused of pedophilia should be shot.......and it doesn't matter their innocence......

Lpdon's photo
Wed 12/22/10 04:44 PM








if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.



I defend peoples rights to their feelings and opinions without being imprisoned for them as well as the right to record and share them,,,regardless of whether I agree with them or not


peoples ACTIONS , are another story


but me dear, if one writes a book, regarding mentally ill sick demented things, THAT MAY ENCITE RAPE OR MOLESTATIONS OF CHILDREN, NOT MISSED MANY PRIESTS AND RELIGIONS HAVE PROTECTED THOSE WHOM DO SUCH FROM PROSECUTION IN DAYS PAST, THAN IT BE IMPERRATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY RING LOUD, AND WITH VENGENCE, OR WILL THE POWERS THAT BE BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE.

investigate!

that is not imprisoned.

the material by law has been deemed OBSCENITY, and as such, is being investigated.

AND HE IS BEING HELD UNTIL TRIAL.

during this time, prosecutors hopefully will find the proof that such would and could never be written, except by false and dangerous sick puppies.

so, you worry about your freedom of expression for yourself, and i shall use mine to hopefully save some kids from extreme degrading and ruined lives.




:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/22/10 05:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 12/22/10 05:14 PM
The LEGAL issue here

"Denver attorney David Lane, who has handled several high-profile First Amendment cases, said Florida could have a hard time extraditing Greaves, who is charged with distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors.

....................

"The main question is whether what he's accused of in Florida would be a crime in Colorado," Lane said. "Obviously, it's not a crime in Colorado because he hasn't been arrested here."

Writs of extradition -- the paperwork necessary to send somebody to another state -- are routinely signed by Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, a former Denver district attorney. But Lane, who is not affiliated with this case, said it involves a different set of issues.

"Most of other extradition cases present clear-cut cases, the defendant was dealing drugs in that other state or some other crime that is also illegal here," Lane said.



IN OTHER WORDS: it is not a crime to write 'obscenity' , it is a crime to DISTRIBUTE it, and that is not a crime in both states..

so the question does become one of entrapment, if indeed the person wrote the material in a state where distribution is not illegal and was (possibly entrapped) enticed to distribute it from that place to somewhere where distribution IS illegal...

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 05:15 PM
understood.

excellent points.

i see you are proving what the law's are.

i was speaking from a perception of caring, and outcry, whic has a way of making laws become investigated, to handle human conditons as they evolve.

excellent points you made.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 12/22/10 07:52 PM










Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............


you barely know me, but you know and believe in me more than that, lol...

if you read my other post, referring to such, the answer was very clear.

hell no.






It can be cleanly done with a clean drop gun.


lol...

you been watchin too much tv...

it twould be wise to heed one's one advice about being monitored and watched, for it twould be such a shame for one as yourself, with a precious daughter to raise and love, to be caught in in such notions, and to out oneself in position to jepordize one's one freedoms with such follish notions.


I've got my first amendment rights.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 12/22/10 08:00 PM
The charges made on him will be over turned eventually because it was entrapment I am sure.

Considering the freedom of press. A person can write how to build a bomb from kitchen supplies and distribute it. Bad taste and I believe dangerous but it is available for someone to read.

So this man had a right to write this disgusting book. And now it will be distributed underground as most child porn is. We gave him lots of free publicity.


Lpdon's photo
Wed 12/22/10 08:02 PM

The charges made on him will be over turned eventually because it was entrapment I am sure.

Considering the freedom of press. A person can write how to build a bomb from kitchen supplies and distribute it. Bad taste and I believe dangerous but it is available for someone to read.

So this man had a right to write this disgusting book. And now it will be distributed underground as most child porn is. We gave him lots of free publicity.




It's no more intrapment then Undercover's who buy drugs then arrest the subjects and those never get overturned.

metalwing's photo
Wed 12/22/10 08:07 PM


The charges made on him will be over turned eventually because it was entrapment I am sure.

Considering the freedom of press. A person can write how to build a bomb from kitchen supplies and distribute it. Bad taste and I believe dangerous but it is available for someone to read.

So this man had a right to write this disgusting book. And now it will be distributed underground as most child porn is. We gave him lots of free publicity.




It's no more intrapment then Undercover's who buy drugs then arrest the subjects and those never get overturned.


:thumbsup: And hookers!

Dragoness's photo
Wed 12/22/10 08:29 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 12/22/10 08:32 PM


The charges made on him will be over turned eventually because it was entrapment I am sure.

Considering the freedom of press. A person can write how to build a bomb from kitchen supplies and distribute it. Bad taste and I believe dangerous but it is available for someone to read.

So this man had a right to write this disgusting book. And now it will be distributed underground as most child porn is. We gave him lots of free publicity.





It's no more intrapment then Undercover's who buy drugs then arrest the subjects and those never get overturned.


Never say never. It does get over turned more often then most know. Usually for those who can afford a good lawyer. But this one was state to state and too obvious to not get over turned by one of the courts