Topic: 'Pedophile Guide' Author Arrested
Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:15 PM





if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not


Leave it to you to defend a Pedophile.

Seakolony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:21 PM
Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:45 PM

Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:51 PM


Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.


CONCUR WITH YA ON THIS ONE.

so, whether we can prove it or not is but a story to unfold, but nothing should silence the outcry over such crap.

for the outcry itself is why he's up on obscenity charges.

so the voice of the people does matter.

the law being sorted out as to FREE SPEECH, has nothing to do with OUTCRY TO RESTAIN A SICK FUCCK.

ditto's

Seakolony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:53 PM


Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:03 PM
The title alone is creepy "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct"

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:08 PM



Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


alas, such is so, but outcry and outrage over such shitz make justice department inquire and come a knockin!

Seakolony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:09 PM

The title alone is creepy "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct"

Agreed but to label someone before proof is presented.......I just don't agree with labeling someone......I prefer to wait and see what becomes of the trial.....

Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:14 PM
I tried to find some excerpts from it to read but couldn't.

It sounds really creepy.

I am on the fence with this one though. First amendment and all that. I am a writer too and to have someone tell me I couldn't write what I write wouldn't sit well with me but that is still creepy.

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:18 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Tue 12/21/10 06:19 PM
hey, some can know in advance.

and the tell is IF IT BECOMES KNOWN AS SO.

if the facts come to light and prove it.

we can call anyone a thief, without it being yet proven in a court of law.

and then the law proves beyond a perponderance if it was so.

the mere act of calling one a thief, is what brings forth investigation.

and make no mistake on this one, he has LARGE CHILD INDISCREPENCIES.

i state such with no problem.

now, the only thing bad would be to go to his house, and execute him myself.

that is left to the law.

but he will fry.

oh yea.

they are gonna dig out all his crimes, that he thinks he is so smart as to elude detection.

he's a narcissist.

he believes in his own superior intellect so much, that he gave himself away with the book.

predictions lets say.






Dragoness's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:30 PM
If it is what the title implies, you are right he is a narcissist who feels his knowledge of sickness is superior.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:51 PM

If it is what the title implies, you are right he is a narcissist who feels his knowledge of sickness is superior.


:banana: We finally agree on something! :banana:

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:51 PM

I tried to find some excerpts from it to read but couldn't.

It sounds really creepy.

I am on the fence with this one though. First amendment and all that. I am a writer too and to have someone tell me I couldn't write what I write wouldn't sit well with me but that is still creepy.


I wouldn't read it, you will be put on the radar if you do.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:52 PM

The title alone is creepy "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct"


:thumbsup:

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:52 PM



Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:58 PM




Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.


ok...

wild wild west, here we come.

lol...

why, wild bill hikok you just go shoot em them.

the narcissist are sure going to have trouble these days.

such will bring em down fast enough without shooten em on sight.

lol...


Seakolony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 06:59 PM




Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 07:15 PM





Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.






Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 07:21 PM





Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....


Not many.

Seakolony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 07:45 PM






Ummmm he is not being charged with pedophilia of any kind and there is no one accusing him of pedophile acts.......the only claim is that he was a victim of pedophilia and wrote a book and is being charged with an onscenity charge


Oh, he is a Pedophile for sure. There is no question about it.

What proof do you have that he is anything other than a victim that wrote a book that is being charged as an obscenity in the State of Florida.......and everyone is innocent until proven guilty....at least supposedly according to the justice department........


Not Pedophiles, they should be shot on site.

You do realize there have been cases where people have been accused of such things lose their jobs marriages families and then it turns out it was a lie and they still have their lives ruined over it........just saying it has happened..............and the child was just an angry child getting back at an adult and just wanted hurt them in the worst possible way....



HELLO.

these did not write a how to book for proper child sexual encounters, nor say that all sexual thoughts about a child are not bad?

scared

if one's embraces thoughts about sex with a child as NOT BAD, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK BEFORE RISES IN THE PENIS ABOUT SUCH?

AND IF THEIR ARE RISES IN THE PENIS OVER CHILDREN, THEN THESE ARE "NOT BAD", since he said it is ONLY UNLAWFUL NOT TO ACT THEM OUT....

THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THEY DO SUCH THINGS?

be for real...

the human brain DOES WHAT IT EMBRACES AS GOOD, OR SEE'S NOT AS BAD.

this guy has already done such, i gaurantee it, to have the balls and audacity and total lack of sight of true value for children, to even begin to write such shitz.







So you beilieve as LPDON that those accused of pedophilia should be shot on sight without a trial ...... that is why I wrote that.............