Topic: 'Pedophile Guide' Author Arrested
mightymoe's photo
Mon 12/20/10 06:47 PM



I really don't know how they are going to accomplish this seeing as this book is from a molested childs eyes ie the victim and the author being the victim writing his point of view.......saying he doesn't agree with pedophilia........if this is truly from a molested child perspective the authors view from being molested but trying to understand the psychology of the pedophile how can it be criminal?? And then you take into account that the law basically entrapped the author into breaking the law otherwise known as entrapment.....I don't think he will be extradicted or ever come to trial.....
how is that entrapment? the undercover cop didn't entice him to write the filth, and Florida law is Florida law...entrapment is when a cop asks you to break the law, then arrests you for it...i didn't see anything like that here.


I don't understand how it's not a federal case since it happened across state lines. I know the FBI and US Marshalls are good at getting pedophiles.
and went through the mail

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/20/10 06:50 PM




I really don't know how they are going to accomplish this seeing as this book is from a molested childs eyes ie the victim and the author being the victim writing his point of view.......saying he doesn't agree with pedophilia........if this is truly from a molested child perspective the authors view from being molested but trying to understand the psychology of the pedophile how can it be criminal?? And then you take into account that the law basically entrapped the author into breaking the law otherwise known as entrapment.....I don't think he will be extradicted or ever come to trial.....
how is that entrapment? the undercover cop didn't entice him to write the filth, and Florida law is Florida law...entrapment is when a cop asks you to break the law, then arrests you for it...i didn't see anything like that here.


I don't understand how it's not a federal case since it happened across state lines. I know the FBI and US Marshalls are good at getting pedophiles.
and went through the mail


Atleast the Inspector Generals Office. I think we need to write letters to the Attorney General of the United States and demand he do something about this.

Seakolony's photo
Mon 12/20/10 06:54 PM
Still nothing "criminal" about what he has actually done......still nothing to arrest the man over for the moment......and still entrapment.......just because he wrote a book doesn't make the man guilty as a pedophile....and I guarantee that if someone is going to write such a controversial book it wouldn't be in their best interest to own or have any pedophilia type materials anywhere around....mainly because writing such a book would absolutely make authorities want to look at you...place you on radar etc.......so the dumbest thing he could do would to be engage in any type of pedophilia even looking at child porn.....or any other linkable type of criminal activity........to make money off of a how to.....he would have to be living above reproach.......

davidben1's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:07 PM
if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.






msharmony's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:13 PM
isnt it crazy how we can all have such strong opinions of a person just by how they are labeled in the media,,,,?

Im doubting anyone has read for themself what is in the book or anything?



,,,,just a thought,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:16 PM

isnt it crazy how we can all have such strong opinions of a person just by how they are labeled in the media,,,,?

Im doubting anyone has read for themself what is in the book or anything?



,,,,just a thought,,,,

i thought about it... and decided no... what is the name of the book again?

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:19 PM

if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:19 PM

isnt it crazy how we can all have such strong opinions of a person just by how they are labeled in the media,,,,?

Im doubting anyone has read for themself what is in the book or anything?



,,,,just a thought,,,,


I wouldn't wanna read that disgusting filth.

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:20 PM
This is what I read.

"PUEBLO, Colo. — A Colorado man who wrote a how-to guide for pedophiles was arrested Monday and sent to Florida to face obscenity charges, after deputies there ordered a copy of the book that has generated online outrage.

Officers arrested Phillip R. Greaves at his home in Pueblo on a warrant that charges him with violating Florida's obscenity law. During a brief court appearance, Greaves waived his right to fight extradition and was transferred to Polk County, Fla.

The Pueblo County Sheriff's Department declined to release any details of Greaves' transfer.

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said he claimed jurisdiction because Greaves sold and mailed his book directly to undercover deputies, who had written the author a letter requesting a copy. Judd said Greaves even signed the book.

"I was outraged by the content," Judd told The Associated Press. "It was clearly a manifesto on how to sexually batter children ... You just can't believe how absolutely disgusting it was."

The self-published book — "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct" — caused a flap when it showed up on Amazon in November. The book was later removed from the site.

Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.

Judd said he was incensed when he heard about the book and that no one had arrested Greaves for selling it. The book, Judd said, included first-person descriptions of sexual encounters, purportedly written from a child's point of view.

"What's wrong with a society that has gotten to the point that we can't arrest child pornographers and child molesters who write a book about how to rape a child?" said Judd, who keeps a Bible on his desk and is known throughout Florida as a crusader against child predators.

Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors." Pueblo County sheriff's spokeswoman Laurie Kilpatrick said Greaves would leave for Polk County later in the day.

Legal experts questioned whether Greaves' right to free speech would come into play if there's a trial. If prosecutors can charge Greaves for shipping his book, they ask, what would prevent booksellers from facing prosecution for selling Vladimir Nabokov's "Lolita," a novel about a pedophile?

"As bad as this book may be, the charge opens a very big Pandora's box," said Dennis J. Kenney, a former police officer in Polk County and a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "The charge sounds to me like a significant overreach."

Greaves was among a group of prisoners who made brief appearances before District Court Judge David Crockenberg in Pueblo on Monday, all of them represented by the same public defender. He was the only one not wearing a striped prison uniform although his wrists were handcuffed in front of him.

Dressed in a cream colored T-shirt and khaki pants, Greaves said he understood the extradition process. When Crockenberg asked him if he understood he would be taken to Florida, Greaves responded, "That is correct, your honor."

Judd said his undercover detectives got Greaves to mail the book to them for $50; he told officers it was his last copy.

"If we can get jurisdiction ... we're coming after you," Judd said. "There's nothing in the world more important than our children."

Seakolony's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:23 PM

if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:25 PM


if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Not when it breaks obsenity laws.

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:27 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 12/20/10 07:28 PM


if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:27 PM


if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."

Lpdon's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:29 PM



if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."



:thumbsup:

Seakolony's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:31 PM



if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."


You read the book and there was a pictorial......I don't remember anyone saying anything about it having a pictorial portraying child porn

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:43 PM




if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."


You read the book and there was a pictorial......I don't remember anyone saying anything about it having a pictorial portraying child porn


No. Judd read the book. It is in the post I made a short while ago.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 10:26 AM




if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."


You read the book and there was a pictorial......I don't remember anyone saying anything about it having a pictorial portraying child porn


It doesn't need to, it has an obscene subject and writing.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 12/21/10 10:26 AM





if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.







Actually writing a book about something illegal doesn't make the book illegal....freedom of journalism......and actually the investigator knew it was illegal in Florida but is not illegal in Colorado to mail the materials written therefore he live under the rules of Colorado not the rules of Florida.....two different states and two different governments so yes it would be entrapment by Florida lawmaker since it wasn't mailed to an individual resident of the State of Florida......he can write about anything he wishes to.....I also am betting no one has read the book to actually ascertain what the content is.....did any one on this site order and read the book....nope I didn't.......how to deal and get someone hooked on crack is it an actual book title no is it illegal to do yes....would it be illegal to write about no....could it be written by a recovering NA ex junkiy yes it could....would most people buy it probably not......still abook of information and protected under journalism and freedom of speech and press


Florida' obscenity law — a third-degree felony — prohibits the "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors."


You read the book and there was a pictorial......I don't remember anyone saying anything about it having a pictorial portraying child porn


No. Judd read the book. It is in the post I made a short while ago.


:thumbsup:

davidben1's photo
Tue 12/21/10 10:52 AM



if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!


msharmony's photo
Tue 12/21/10 04:12 PM




if ya write a book about how to molest a child, since molesting a child is illegal, then the book is illegal.

no different than child porn laws.

if ya got pictures of child porn, than it's illegal.

IF ONE WRITES A CHILDS BOOK ABOUT HOW TO MURDER FOR CHILDREN, THE BOOK IS ILLEGAL, BECAUSE MURDER IS ILLEGAL.

if one writes a childs book for how to poison people, the book is illegal, because poisoning people is illegal, and the purchase of the book shows intent or want or motive to poison.

entrapped him?

they were brillaint enough to allow his own SELF INTEREST TO TRAP HIMSELF.

and they allowed himself to entrapp himself, as they simply asked for a book.

he was too dumb, since he's a crimminal, to check the laws of florida, and make sure his book was legal there, before sending it to someone.

so, HIS OWN ACTIONS, ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL OF HIS OWN DEMISE.








:thumbsup:



this is kind of scary to me though, because of the reach of scope

we have a saturation of violence and sex in our media and entertainment, much of it is actually accurately portraying how to commit 'crimes' under the guise of fiction and so it is protected as art

I just dont understand what is so different between the realistic FICTION that is protected and a how to book that states flat out and honestly what it is?

its kind of like penalizing people for their thoughts instead of their action, like being able to sue the makers of 'hitman' if you find out that someone who assassinated your loved one happened to love that movie,,,,if there are those who wish to buy something like this, I think it should stop at keeping an eye on those people, but I dont agree with criminalizing the writer for his 'art', however unappealing it is

I was a victim of rape, and it scares me to think that if I ever wrote about that experience or the conclusions I drew from it, that I could actually be labeled criminal for doing so,,,,


I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WOULD NOT BE.

because you WOULD NEVER WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO RAPE,AND FAVORED IN THE SIDE OF A 'WOULDBE' RAPIST.

so let not your own fears, CONTROL YOU TO ALLOW HARM TO CHILDREN.

the book is NOT WRITTEN TELLING CHILDREN HOW SUCH IS SICK, AND THAT ADULTS THAT SEEK THIS ARE MENTALLY ILL...

it is attempting to CONTRUE BOTH THE RAPIST OF CHILDREN AND THE CHILD AS TO LEARN HOW THIS IS "NOT BAD", NOT HARMFUL IN ALL CASES.

he's a freak...

the public outcry SAVES THE KIDS FROM SUCH AS THIS!





I have not read the book and do not know such a thing.

it comes down again to a study of the english language

'Greaves, who has no criminal record, writes in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.'

it sounds as if his approach to the book is from a view that pedophilia is hardwired as a PREFERENCE(like homosexuality, I would propose), and the term is used to describe people with such preference,,,,,I dont know for now that the book in any way promotes or encourages such people to ACT upon their preference,,,,,and even if it did,,, I still would be concerned about the illegality aspect for the reasons of freedom of speech and artistic license which I explained earlier are protected throughout the entertainment and publishing industries...

It would be more consistent to put such pieces on WATCH, use free market and give publishers the right to choose to publish it or not, and the public a right to purchase it or not